HELP: Building A New PC

[lukemcfc]

Hi,

 

I am looking to build a cheap PC (it will only be for light gaming) and my budget is around $300, I already have a GT 710 and I was looking at getting a Ryzen 3 2200G but they need a BIOS update, are there any motherboards that don't? Thanks for the help guys.

[lukemcfc]

Oh I also have an M.2 SSD btw.

[Slottr]

2 minutes ago, lukemcfc said:

are there any motherboards that don't

Most B350 motherboards should have updated bios' by now, and B450 boards are good to go out of the box.

 

Though for that budget, look at a used dell optiplex with a 3rd or 4th gen i5/i7 and add in a 1050ti or 970. @Crunchy Dragon Should have more info on that set up.

Most likely won't support that M.2 SSD though unless you get an adapter of some sort

[lukemcfc]

Just now, Slottr said:

Most B350 motherboards should have updated bios' by now, and B450 boards are good to go out of the box.

 

Though for that budget, look at a used dell optiplex with a 3rd or 4th gen i5/i7 and add in a 1050ti or 970. @Crunchy Dragon Should have more info on that set up.

Most likely won't support that M.2 SSD though unless you get an adapter of some sort

Yeah, I really want to build it myself though, if I bought a Used B350 mobo would u say it would be updated? Or would it have to be new?

 

 

Thanks for the help!

[Fasauceome]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$93.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$77.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory	ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$276.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 16:50 EST-0500

I got the impression that you're upgrading from a laptop for some reason, but in case you're not, try this build on for size.

[lukemcfc]

Just now, fasauceome said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$93.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$77.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory	ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$276.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 16:50 EST-0500

I got the impression that you're upgrading from a laptop for some reason, but in case you're not, try this build on for size.

Oh thank you so much! I'm not actually upgrading from a laptop as I have a Dell XPS 13 9370, but I want a desktop, thanks!

[Slottr]

2 minutes ago, lukemcfc said:

Yeah, I really want to build it myself though, if I bought a Used B350 mobo would u say it would be updated? Or would it have to be new?

Thanks for the help!

Depends on when the initial buyer bought it and if they did update it. 

Looking at the 2200g though, you can disregard the 710 completely as the 2200g will outdo it. 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, lukemcfc said:

Oh thank you so much! I'm not actually upgrading from a laptop as I have a Dell XPS 13 9370, but I want a desktop, thanks!

Are you building from scratch or upgrading? My list would be to replace an old PC's guts, but if you need a whole system with the Ryzen 3 2200g it's a different story. Also you can ditch the 710, it's weaker than Ryzen's integrated graphics.

[lukemcfc]

Just now, Slottr said:

Depends on when the initial buyer bought it and if they did update it. 

Looking at the 2200g though, you can disregard the 710 completely as the 2200g will outdo it. 

Really? I didn't expect that but I might do B450, 8GB RAM, and I don't know what case to use.

[lukemcfc]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Are you building from scratch or upgrading? My list would be to replace an old PC's guts, but if you need a whole system with the Ryzen 3 2200g it's a different story. Also you can ditch the 710, it's weaker than Ryzen's integrated graphics.

I do have a ThinkCentre M82 but all I could gut from that is the i5- 3470 and the 4gb ddr3 ram

[Slottr]

1 minute ago, lukemcfc said:

Really? I didn't expect that but I might do B450, 8GB RAM, and I don't know what case to use.

For that MATX board @fasauceome had in his list, I'd use the Q300L.

[lukemcfc]

1 minute ago, Slottr said:

For that MATX board @fasauceome had in his list, I'd use the Q300L.

Yeah, would it be possible to do a Ryzen 2200G + Q300L for under 350$?

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, lukemcfc said:

I do have a ThinkCentre M82 but all I could gut from that is the i5- 3470 and the 4gb ddr3 ram

That might have a proprietary or insufficient power supply, and maybe an ugly case as well. Since it's definitely short an SSD, it kinda seems worth replacing.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$93.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg Business
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$55.99 @ Newegg
Storage	TCSunBow - X3 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$20.99 @ Amazon
Case	Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case	$40.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$31.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$318.83
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$308.83
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 17:03 EST-0500

Maybe this instead. $300 doesn't get you much PC 

[lukemcfc]

17 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

That might have a proprietary or insufficient power supply, and maybe an ugly case as well. Since it's definitely short an SSD, it kinda seems worth replacing.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$93.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg Business
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$55.99 @ Newegg
Storage	TCSunBow - X3 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$20.99 @ Amazon
Case	Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case	$40.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$31.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$318.83
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$308.83
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 17:03 EST-0500

Maybe this instead. $300 doesn't get you much PC 

yeah, that's perfect thank you so much!

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, Slottr said:

 @Crunchy Dragon Should have more info on that set up.

Most likely won't support that M.2 SSD though unless you get an adapter of some sort

2nd or 3rd gen never had native M.2 support as a whole, that really started becoming a thing once LGA 1150 hit.

 

Some kind of PCIe to M.2 adapter should work, though.

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Since it's definitely short an SSD, it kinda seems worth replacing.

For a tighter budget, I value storage capacity over storage speed. 120GB won't last much longer after you install an operating system on it, I'd highly recommend a 1TB Seagate Barracuda or WD Blue(whichever's cheaper).

 

Frankly speaking, the price/performance on that list is pretty bad when you take into account that for just 30-50 USD more, you could get a way better system.

[lukemcfc]

On 12/8/2018 at 12:25 AM, Crunchy Dragon said:

For a tighter budget, I value storage capacity over storage speed. 120GB won't last much longer after you install an operating system on it, I'd highly recommend a 1TB Seagate Barracuda or WD Blue(whichever's cheaper).

 

Frankly speaking, the price/performance on that list is pretty bad when you take into account that for just 30-50 USD more, you could get a way better system.

I got the SSD for free, this is my new build, there is only one problem. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeFau05/saved/#view=K72LJx

 

I'm buying a new motherboard btw, not a used one. 

[lukemcfc]

@fasauceome @Slottr

 

I got the SSD for free, this is my new build, there is only one problem. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeFau05/saved/#view=K72LJx

 

I'm buying a new motherboard btw, not a used one. 

[Fasauceome]

21 minutes ago, lukemcfc said:

@fasauceome @Slottr

 

I got the SSD for free, this is my new build, there is only one problem. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/LukeFau05/saved/#view=K72LJx

 

I'm buying a new motherboard btw, not a used one. 

Do not use an A320 motherboard, it's crap. Also, again, ditch the 710, it's worse than the 2200g integrated graphics.

[lukemcfc]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Do not use an A320 motherboard, it's crap. Also, again, ditch the 710, it's worse than the 2200g integrated graphics.

Yeah, all I can afford is an A320 can u try and find a cheap a350m cause I can't

[Fasauceome]

7 minutes ago, lukemcfc said:

Yeah, all I can afford is an A320 can u try and find a cheap a350m cause I can't

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4

$10 more dollars well spent. M.2 slot is tucked in the bottom right.

[lukemcfc]

7 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4

$10 more dollars well spent. M.2 slot is tucked in the bottom right.

Thanks, sadly this one comes from the US and I need it to come from the UK or Ireland

[lukemcfc]

On 12/9/2018 at 5:17 PM, lukemcfc said:

Thanks, sadly this one comes from the US and I need it to come from the UK or Ireland

@fasauceome @Slottr

 

I am just after purchasing the AB350M and a Ryzen 3. 

 

It's a brand new motherboard and processor. Should I get the boot kit or would it be updated?

[Fasauceome]

Just now, lukemcfc said:

@fasauceome @Slottr

 

I am just after purchasing the AB350M and a Ryzen 3. 

 

It's a brand new motherboard and processor. Should I get the boot kit or would it be updated?

There's a pretty decent chance the motherboard is already updated, but if you want to be ready, might as well order the boot kit, pretty sure it's free.

[lukemcfc]

15 hours ago, fasauceome said:

There's a pretty decent chance the motherboard is already updated, but if you want to be ready, might as well order the boot kit, pretty sure it's free.

Okay thanks.