Sanity Check and Tweaks VR Gaming and Virtualization AMD Build

[francistein]

Why?

I built my first computer 6 years ago and I expected to make upgrades to it before replacing it. However, I made some errors with the build (cheaping out on motherboard, case fitting didn't work properly) which has made me decide to build fresh instead of upgrading now.

 

Use Case:

Most strenuous uses will be virtualization, VR Gaming, streaming, and some AI/Deep Learning. I like to avoid overclocking in order to save on electricity and avoid reducing the lifetime of the components.

 

Monitors:

On top of this, it will need to support 1 4k monitor and 2 1080p monitors.

 

Budget:

Budget is not a large concern but I would like to avoid spending money on stuff I won't need.

 

Parts:

With that in mind. Here is the parts list:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yLrgBZ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($419.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($244.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Memory: OLOy 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($167.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Mushkin Enhanced Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($136.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($549.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.75 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($174.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1913.95
 

On cooling/Cases:

I would also like to build it a bit more quiet. So I'm wondering if this case is sufficient and what the best options would be for fans/coolers/thermal paste? I'm not sure if I want to drop $200 on a case because, with my last build, I did just that and the motherboard had to be bent a bit to fit. I do not care about how the case looks. It all comes down to air flow, east of management, and noise containment.

[alyen]

Phanteks P300 looks like the air intake could be kind of restrictive. Something like the Phanteks ECLIPSE P400A might be better. Mesh type fronts may seem like less material to dampen the noise, but it does make it easier for the fans. The noisiest fans could be the chipset fan. I couldn't find any information on the chipset fan control for that motherboard, but the AMD stocker cooler should be okay after you adjust the fan settings from bios.

 

I've been considering getting a TUF Gaming X570 myself in a few months and already bought a Fractal Design Meshify C for $90 CAD during Black Friday.

[francistein]

So the stock fans with the P300 should be good? No need to replace? I was also considering fractal because the fans were pretty large which might help with noise and intake.

If so, does it compare well to Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Series PH-ES515PTG_BK? I can actually get this one cheaper due to lower shipping costs.

[lilotus.FRM]

5 minutes ago, francistein said:

So the stock fans with the P300 should be good? No need to replace? I was also considering fractal because the fans were pretty large which might help with noise and intake.

If so, does it compare well to Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Series PH-ES515PTG_BK? I can actually get this one cheaper due to lower shipping costs.

Hey,

you could also go for a Cooler Master H500 it has 2x 200mm in the front and I think 1x 140mm in the back and you can put a lot of fans in it if needed.

 

It is like a rgb windtunnel.

 

EDIT: Okay nevermind I just looked at the canadian prices for it. It is like $170 in germany it is only 92€

[francistein]

Yeah, location tends to kill on case prices it seems. I guess because of logistics, form, weight, and the popularity of glass in cases.
I'm actually preferring Fractal Design Meshify C as alyen got as I noticed the Phanteks don't necessarily have enough room for the graphics card (300mm). Though I imagine this shouldn't be too much of a problem since the HDD cage could be moved out of the way but the flexibility to add more cages would be nice.

[lilotus.FRM]

So, here is another reply from me.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$259.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$244.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$163.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Mushkin Enhanced Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$136.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	Asus Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB STRIX Gaming OC Video Card	$579.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$174.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ PC-Canada
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$174.50 @ Vuugo
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1834.44
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-08 15:51 EST-0500

If you really want the bang for the buck.

I changed:

CPU to R7 2700X

RAM to Trident Z 32GB 3200Mhz

GPU to RX5700XT Strix OC

Case to H500

PSU cuz you dont need so much power in the system 650 is enough.

[lilotus.FRM]

1 minute ago, francistein said:

Yeah, location tends to kill on case prices it seems. I guess because of logistics, form, weight, and the popularity of glass in cases.
I'm actually preferring Fractal Design Meshify C as alyen got as I noticed the Phanteks don't necessarily have enough room for the graphics card (300mm). Though I imagine this shouldn't be too much of a problem since the HDD cage could be moved out of the way but the flexibility to add more cages would be nice.

The Meshify C is  a  really nice case but I prefer the Cooler Master H500.

[lilotus.FRM]

And for the money I just removed from the total price you could invest in a nice cooler for the CPU or if you like the RGB you could buy some RGB fans.

[francistein]

The thing I like about the Ryzen 7 3700x is that it has a lower TDP which is good for electricity use and, in turn, heating. Maybe not worth it due to the price but I estimate at least $80 in savings and with new carbon taxes coming that will likely increase. Though this may force me to get a bios flash kit as I'm not sure if this motherboard might has a gen 3 bios preinstalled or not.

Plus the ~25% performance boost will be helpful for the virtualization. I run a lot of VMs and am generally doing a lot at once.

 

For the PSU I think that's a pretty good idea. I was a bit concerned about GPU wattage and upgrades but I think it should be sufficient.

 

For the RAM unfortunately it looks like it is out of stock.

[lilotus.FRM]

13 minutes ago, francistein said:

The thing I like about the Ryzen 7 3700x is that it has a lower TDP which is good for electricity use and, in turn, heating. Maybe not worth it due to the price but I estimate at least $80 in savings and with new carbon taxes coming that will likely increase. Though this may force me to get a bios flash kit as I'm not sure if this motherboard might has a gen 3 bios preinstalled or not.

Plus the ~25% performance boost will be helpful for the virtualization. I run a lot of VMs and am generally doing a lot at once.

 

For the PSU I think that's a pretty good idea. I was a bit concerned about GPU wattage and upgrades but I think it should be sufficient.

 

For the RAM unfortunately it looks like it is out of stock.

Luckily you dont need a bios flash kit because it is X570.

If you want to (and if it doesnt blow your budget) you could use the 3700X in that system.

[francistein]

Okay, purchased and on its way. Will be ready to put together in 10 days. The final parts list:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/g8zcHB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($419.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($244.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Memory: OLOy 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($167.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Mushkin Enhanced Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($136.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB STRIX Gaming OC Video Card  ($579.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($174.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($174.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1999.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

In the end I decided that the 200mm fans were worth the extra $47. Thanks everyone for your help.