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Low Performance GTX1050Ti, unclear reason

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Very Recently, my laptop performance dropped visibly in games (checked in Witcher III and Unigine Heaven, also Blender GPU Performane), fps drops from 50ish to 15-20, I havent updated my drivers since the win10 May 2019 update and performance was fine, dont know what's causing the Issue, no Thermal Throttling, CPU clockspeed is normal and can reach max turbo clock, but utilization is low (5-15%), GPU runs with no problem (99-100% usage, 1747MHz). When I noticed the performance drop, i got BSOD with code FAULTY_HARDWARE_CORRUPTED_PAGE, never happened again though.
seems something happened with resource/cpu usage since my cpu temp usually hovers at around 85 on load to 60-70 now.

 

Specs:

- ASUS TUF GAMING FX505GE

- Windows 10 Home 64-bit 1903

- CPU : I7 8750H

- GPU: GTX 1050Ti 4GB

- RAM : 8GB

- NVMe KINGSTON RBUSNS8 (512gb)

- KINGSTON SA400S374 (SATA 2,5" SSD)

Steps I tried:

- Clean install Nvidia and Intel Driver with DDU

- Using newest drivers

- Using ASUS drivers

- Disabled Fast Startup on system settings

- BIOS Reset

- Disable VT-D in BIOS

- Flash BIOS from 305 to 304 (both was working perfectly until now)

- Reinstalled ACPI-Compliant Battery Driver

- Uninstall NVIDIA Geforce Experience

- Refresh Windows

- Clean Install to Win10 1809

- Memory Diagnostic (no errors)

and the problem still persists , anyone having similar issue? any help would be very appreciated.
screenshots of Unigine Heaven Score and HWMonitor during Benchmarks:

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

no Thermal Throttling, CPU clockspeed is normal and can reach max turbo clock, but utilization is low (5-15%), GPU runs with no problem (99-100% usage, 1747MHz)

How do you verify this? FX505 has bad cooling


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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP
43 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

How do you verify this? FX505 has bad cooling

checked with HWmonitor and Throttlestop, maybe occasionaly. but temp stays below 95c. been running this config for months with no throttling issue and performance was good.

edit: i also undervolted my cpu to help with temp, already undone that.

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33 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

but temp stays below 95c

this is alarming

 

checking thermals isn't just temperature - need to look at clock speed and power draw

 

can you spend some time to test it now? I will guide you


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13 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

this is alarming

 

checking thermals isn't just temperature - need to look at clock speed and power draw

 

can you spend some time to test it now? I will guide you

I can, what should I do?

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16 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

I can, what should I do?

Download these if you don't have them: Aida64, Unigine Heaven, HWinfo64


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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Download these if you don't have them: Aida64, Unigine Heaven, HWinfo64

I've all three

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48 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

I've all three

Do the following:

1. Go to HWinfo64 settings > layout, disable monitoring for all sensors except for core 0-5 clock, core 0-5 temp, CPU package power, PL1+PL2 power limit and all GPU monitoring sensors. Go to general tab, set polling period: global 500ms, disk SMART 120 cycles. Click set and OK

2. Run Unigine Heaven (highest setting not needed) in window mode (not fullscreen)

3. Run Aida64 stability test but tick 'FPU' only

4. Monitor via HWinfo64 and record your results (if possible in video form)


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11 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Do the following:

1. Go to HWinfo64 settings > layout, disable monitoring for all sensors except for core 0-5 clock, core 0-5 temp, CPU package power, PL1+PL2 power limit and all GPU monitoring sensors. Go to general tab, set polling period: global 500ms, disk SMART 120 cycles. Click set and OK

2. Run Unigine Heaven (highest setting not needed) in window mode (not fullscreen)

3. Run Aida64 stability test but tick 'FPU' only

4. Monitor via HWinfo64 and record your results (if possible in video form)

Here are my results:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yjSERdY6zb6w5eXsPzg2bQEYKFe53EcM

 

First result is stock with no undervolt or underclock applied, I noticed that my system (with UV and UC) is thermal throttling with Heaven and AIDA64 combined, so I did second test with turbo boost disabled to eliminate temp throtttling on cpu.

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11 hours ago, MonHunManiac said:

so I did second test with turbo boost disabled to eliminate temp throtttling on cpu.

You didn't fix the issue then

 

Can't open the Drive


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

You didn't fix the issue then

 

Can't open the Drive

Ah sorry, I messed up with the sharing settings. Try the link again

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Looks like the CPU is thermal throttling which is expected in this model, GPU also got slight throttling

 

Try undervolting the GPU too. Also try lowering turbo ratio limits via Throttlestop (different from disable turbo)

 

If the issue still exist, I'm afraid that you got a lemon which is very common among Asus laptops


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Posted · Original PosterOP
50 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Looks like the CPU is thermal throttling which is expected in this model, GPU also got slight throttling

 

Try undervolting the GPU too. Also try lowering turbo ratio limits via Throttlestop (different from disable turbo)

 

If the issue still exist, I'm afraid that you got a lemon which is very common among Asus laptops

I've undervolted GPU and CPU also underclocked cpu to 3.3GHz on previous prior to this problem happening for a few months, temp hovers around 85c.

 

By the way whats a lemon?

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Let me see how's your GPU undervolt

 

Lemon means bad QC unit


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Posted · Original PosterOP
32 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Let me see how's your GPU undervolt

 

Lemon means bad QC unit

i lost the settings due to the reinstall, but if i recall correctly i uv'ed ~100mv at stable gpu load and temp running Unigine Heaven (1747MHz at 950mv).

 

This laptop does have bad history with the hardware, first week I got it, i had to RMA the motherboard for a new one because of faulty GPU. then It's all smooth until now.

 

By the way, does a render session can/ might damage a GPU? i've been rendering an animation with Blender (CUDA Powered) for 1-2 hours prior to noticing the problem, render performance got affected too. I always make sure to monitor the temp to not go above 90 during renders.


Graph similary looked like below.

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18 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

By the way, does a render session can/ might damage a GPU?

No

19 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

This laptop does have bad history with the hardware

19 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

render performance got affected too

So you might get a lemon then. Nothing much you can do unfortunately

19 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

I always make sure to monitor the temp to not go above 90 during renders

90C is bad

20 minutes ago, MonHunManiac said:

1747MHz at 950mv

The graph is messed up - I can guide you how to undervolt it correctly if you want


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, GeneXiS_X said:

No

So you might get a lemon then. Nothing much you can do unfortunately

90C is bad

The graph is messed up - I can guide you how to undervolt it correctly if you want

I found a guide somewhere, the better one should be smoother no? It was smoother, but the screenshot I sent was a rough one. Would love a guide if it's not bothering you.

 

I'll try to talk to asus later, thank you so much for your help on this topic.

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On 7/22/2019 at 12:03 AM, MonHunManiac said:

I found a guide somewhere, the better one should be smoother no? It was smoother, but the screenshot I sent was a rough one. Would love a guide if it's not bothering you.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1085513-laptop-undervolting-guide-intelnvidia/

hope it helps


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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 7/26/2019 at 2:34 PM, GeneXiS_X said:

Thank you so much! turns out I followed your tutorial before, the one I posted is a rough remake.
that aside, I've contacted ASUS, and they decided to RMA my laptop again. Got a new motherboard now, problems gone, hopefully not to reappear.

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