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Hi everyone, TLDR: I just want to warn all homelab enthusiasts that APUs like the 5600G or 5700G, and apparently also the newer 8000G series can have issues with some PCIe cards, when paired with some motherboards. In my case, with a 5700G + B550 + E10M20-T1 (Synology), the card is not detected at all. I expect the same with the QM2 cards from QNAP with an integrated NIC. When buying the Cezanne 5700G, and using a B550 motherboard, I saw that PCIe was going down from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 3.0. What I didn't know is that the bifurcation options also go from x8/x8 x8/x4/x4 x4/x4/x4/x4 to x8/x8 x8/x4/x4 This apparently breaks compatibility with cards like the E10M20-T1. Beware ! Maybe it is not linked at all, but the coincidence is too big. It's sad, because this config makes for an excellent Ryzen SFF homelab machine with very fast NVMe storage, avoiding IPMI powered server MB by having an APU with a graphics output. It certainly helps with the budget, as server grade stuff is expensive. For now, I'm using a 5900X without graphics, because luckily AM4 boards can boot without a graphics card installed.

Budget (including currency): 400 eur Country: Latvia Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AutoCAD, SketchUp Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I am planing to build a PC based on the AMD 5600G, with the idea of making it ultra upgradeable. When it is necessary, adding a dedicated GPU is totally an option, and after years, a used 5800X would be a very cheap way of adding some more CPU power. I do not have that much experience with these programs, does this sound good?

Budget (including currency): $1,000 Country: USA Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: ? Probably F1 2023 Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sdTTDZ My question is about the "14 total / 10 usable" Native PCIe lanes here: https://www.amd.com/en/product/14086 I am ready to spring for an 8500G. Assume my 8500G choice is locked. What is a good motherboard that has 2 x USB4 to take advantage of those pins coming from the CPU, and as much PCIe expansion as possible? Assume I'll keep the motherboard for 15+ years. Eventually I'll get some faster AM5 CPU to put in it. The ASUS ROG X670E crosshair hero almost seems like a good choice. (The manual is here) Explanation: The ROG X670E strix has 1 DisplayPort 1.4 output on the rear I/O but no USB4. The ROG crosshair has 2 x USB4 display outputs from the CPU. And the 8500G has 2 x USB4 ports. But I'm still nervous I missed something that's going to bite me later. What will be the limitations on PCIe slots? If the CPU had a full 16 lanes for the x16 the manual then talks about bifurcation on p. vii "specifications summary" -- The second PCIe 5.0 x16 slot works only in x8 mode: "(support x16 or x8/x8 mode)" And "When PCIE 5.0 M.2 card is installed on PCIEX16_2, PCIEX16_1 will run x8 only." Some of that is pretty normal for X670E motherboards based on [1]. What I'm wondering is what happens when the APU only has 10 usable PCIe lanes? Will the second x16 stop working at all - same for the slots M.2_1 and M.2_2 which each use x4 of PCIe 5.0, they prob will just not work at all. So I have to use M.2_3 and M.2_4 which are PCIe 4.0 x4 - that doesn't seem so bad. I do see that pcpartpicker flags the 5800G CPU as being so new I'll need to flash the motherboard BIOS before I can install it. That's the $650 ASUS board that I'm looking at. Now, I hear you, you'll cringe at spending that much on the motherboard. Motherboards have gotten pricey lately, so I'm looking to buy an excellent one and to really peer into its guts. I mean, I looked at the ASRock X670E Taichi Carrara for $623 and it has the same warning, "support x16 or x8/x8 modes*" and probably has the same gotcha if M2_1 is used. Gigabyte seems to have discontinued the X670E Aero D, and the AORUS Master limits its USB-C to DisplayPort 1.4. MSI has the same DisplayPort 1.4 limitation. Anyone already have the ROG crosshair or ASRock Taichi Carrara? [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-rog-crosshair-x670e-hero/

This happened while I was playing ets2 lol ryzen5 5600g onda a520asd4 8x2 3200mhz this doesn't show up when i just turn on the monitor and not the pc so i suspect it has to do something with my pc IMG_20240130_142217.jpg

Hello guys, I am a game developer and i have a desktop setup. Around a year ago i got a laptop for working away from my desktop worst case scenario was to give it to my sibling who is going to uni... It had a 1920x1080 ips mat display a ryzen 5300u proccesor (4c/8t, 15w tdp) with integrated Radeon Graphics (6c), ram configuration was 4g soldered and 8g as slotted and 2g was reserved as vram, a 38w/h battery, m.2 nvme ssd and a 2.5" sata bay... It was a budget laptop some corners were cut, for me the negatives were; - Display colors (reds were basicly orange compared to any other ips display i have seen) - Low battery capacity (even when i worked it was getting 3-4 hours but i just feel like it is just a missed oppurtunity because there is room for almost another one of the battery inside of it just around the battery) - Trackpad pressing function was just bad it would have been better imo to just have no pressing function at all, it was hard to press and non uniform and chasis flex made it worse I know it would not make sense if i expect it to replace my desktop setup but i feel like it could be really close. For reference my desktop setup is a ryzen 2600, a gtx 1060 6g (a small itx version so basically no OC) and 32G ram and it works just fine. That laptops performance was almost completely enough, the thing that was not possible to overlook was low ram capacity (10G functional) when working i quickly filled the ram if my workload got a bit heavier Finally my question is, in short what alternatives to ryzen 5300u i could look for if i want a bit more performance with around the same or lower power consumption and what should i expect in terms of performance / power consumption? I dont really know if intel chips would be as power efficent i dont really know much about mobile intel chipt to be honest so i just looked what is available in my area to chips that were made sense to me here are what i think / wonder about them; - ryzen 5825U or 5875U: these are in tha same family and have the same tdp but how much graphics power can i expect from them since from my understarding they have ~33% more graphics cores? - ryzen 6800U: this one kinda lists a slightly higher tdp (15-28W) i am guessing it is a bit more power efficent in practice and it is more performant in terms of graphics power with 12 core 680m but how much or am i wrong? - ryzen 7840U: this one lists a even higher tdp (28W) is it comparable to chips mentioned above in terms of power efficency? I dont see many models with newer chips but models with 5000 series chips are readily available in my region also i see newer chips that have "hs" insetad of "u" suffix and they even have dedicated gpus usually not that much of a price difference can these chips used as efficently as "u" chips And any intel chips that compare to these in terms of performance / power consumption? Thanks for reading my lengthy question

What benefits there are by using amd apu+amd gpu or intel apu+intel gpu and more specifically what technologies are enabled by this setup? Also, is it worthy or not compared to a build using a nvidia gpu?

Summary AMD's Strix Halo Mobile APU has been leaked and it appears to have the graphics performance of a laptop 4070. (The 4070 Laptop has the performance benchmarks of a Radeon RX 6700 XT) Estimations of its arrival are in the second half of 2024. This looks like AMD attempt to hit three birds with one stone. The birds being Intel, Nvidia, and Apple. Quotes My thoughts I hope AMD delivers at their normal budget price point. I would like to see this in desktops eventually. Sources https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_next-gen_zen_5_strix_halo_apu_should_worry_both_apple_and_nvidia/1 https://www.laptopmag.com/news/amd-ryzen-8000-series-leak-macbook-tier-efficiency-4070-graphics-incredible-performance https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/amd-zen-5-based-ryzen-8000-mobile-cpu-specs-reportedly-leak/ https://www.notebookcheck.net/Massive-AMD-Ryzen-8000-Zen-5-leak-Strix-Halo-chiplet-APUs-targeting-Apple-silicon-efficiency-with-RTX-4070-class-graphics-along-with-new-Strix-Point-and-Fire-Range-APUs.709446.0.html More The video that leaked these APUs has much more information and is here:

So I recently picked up a few second hand CPU’s and I got this apu the Ryzen3 4300g. Now I don’t know if I’m just dense but I’m getting conflicting information, on which motherboard is appropriate for this chip. Anyone out there have experience with this Apu?

According to Tom's hardware, AMD has it's Zen 3 desktop APUs under wraps Untill a chinese ebay seller started selling an Ryzen 3 5300G engineering sample, here's the ebay link for proof but It is currently out of stock. Besides that, the report goes on to say that of course those chips are based on the TSMC 7nm like the other predecessors from the 5600X to the 5950X and: but of course without AMD's confirmation, we can't actually tell whenever this chip will actually be launched either to the market or OEMs or as a Ryzen 3 pro 5350G, just like the Zen 2 APUs For the APU Performance, the seller seems to have done a brief review (https://youtu.be/P1YthiKLsJI) of this engineering sample but in summary, One of the games he tested with this APU, Battlefield V gives around 40-50 FPS at 1080p low settings, which is an improvement over last gen so far and the cpu itself is slightly more powerful than the Ryzen 3 3300x with around a 1-2% margin and with a total of 2985.12 in CPU-Z multi threading benchmark but that's just the tip of the iceberg so far. Let's not forget that availability matters too, if those APUs manage to launch to the market, it'll most likely be out of stock earlier Summary The Ryzen 3 5300G was leaked but it is still in engineering sample, an eBay seller started selling one of these engineering samples and now they are out of stock, no confirmation from AMD so far, Performance on the table seems to be great but official pricing or launch has to follow in order to tell and while it beats the Ryzen 3 3300X CPU, it is so slightly with around 1-2% margin. Also gaming performance for an APU only does seem promising so far. Quotes My thoughts I'm just hoping that if this is true and If AMD actually launches these APUs at a good price to the market and the CPUs/GPUs shortages are gone, I think this is going to be a really great budget APU for budget gamers who are looking to build an APU based PC in 2021 or so or have a budget CPU with a great dedicated GPU. This should be really cool alltho AMD should have just launched Ryzen 3 Zen 3 CPUs rather than APU but assuming it launches in the market, that's the right step of the direction, especially again for budget gamers. Sources https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3-5300g-zen-3-cezanne-apu-1080p-gaming https://www.pcgamer.com/unreleased-amd-ryzen-3-5300g-chip-pops-up-on-ebay-for-dollar177/ https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-3-5300g-cezanne-desktop-apu-spotted-on-ebay I'll edit this post if I find more sources

I need to know what king of memory makes an apu do good. I've heard of people who got over 4Ghz ram. what speed, latency, timing and how much of it.

I need to know what king of memory makes an apu do good. I've heard of people who got over 4Ghz ram. what speed, latency, timing and how much of it.

Budget (including currency): 250-300 usd Country: Mexico Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Davinci Resolve, Photoshop, Lightroom and general gaming Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

I have a Lenovo ideapad FLEX 6-14|KB laptop which runs a i3 with an APU, I'm pretty confident i can sell it for $500 seeing that it's over $700 used on other sites. After selling it, I want to purchase a laptop with any sort of Dedicated Graphics Card inside. I came here to know what I should be looking for particularly, either a used one to buy or a completely new one. I have a spare set of 16GB DDR4 2666MHz PC4-21300 memory sticks, so I was in between finding something cheaper with less memory or selling the sticks and adding to the laptop fund. - All I really want out of it in the end is to run OBS and a few Twitch tabs while it not being too worked up. This exact configuration ate up most of my memory last time. Much appreciated for all the help (if any)

Hi I need some help, I have just finished my new build, it has a clean windows install on a new SSD, it has every driver up to date but, when I try to launch Ryzenmaster (last version as well) it says "Unsupported Processor". I have a Ryzen 7 Pro 4750g and an Aorus Elite B550m. I have seen some similar posts but the problem in those was a new processor on an existing system and the solution was to update drivers and uninstall ryzenmaster and then install it again, It's obviously not the solution in my case. Thanks in advance.

Budget (including currency): ~900€, max. 1000€ Country: Germany Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: F1 2021, Valorant, CS GO and basic office work. Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Starting with a blanc sheet for my very first PC that will be used for gaming; targetting < 40FPs at 1080p; planing my build for next April. With the still ongoing GPU-shortage in mind I started thinking about using a CPU with integrated graphics for my first Gaming PC, probably an AMD AMD Ryzen 7 5700G. Everything I read and watched so far sounds not to bad, in fact 'good enough' for me. Further down the line I will add a dedicated GPU, but my budget can't handle that until Sep/Oct '22. Does anyone here have some experience with such a solution? Which limitations did you ran into?

I currently have a 3200g with no gpu and plan to get one when prices drop. I have been playing destiny and other games at 720p or 1080p low settings. Not really enjoyable but its okay i guess. Other than paying for overpriced gpus, my options are buying a 5600g or waiting for new ryzen apus or longer for a chance of getting a new proper gpu. I need advice. I have a benq 2480 which is 75hz 1080p.

So I have a 300$ budget for a pc build I am in the USA. I have a asus prime A320M-k motherboard I am trying to decide if i should go with a gpu or a apu any advice would be appreciated.

Budget (including currency): $1000+ Country: America Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Idk but not using ray tracing or 1440p Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Waiting on b550-f, 5 5600x, and 16gb 3200mhz ram

hi, i'm gonna get straight to the question because i've been searching for one week without results. is my cpu and mobo compatible with resizable Bar? my pc: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NdmnsX please help me my plan is to get rid of my 650ti and get a tesla m40 following this guide:

I've recently built a new PC with a Ryzen 7 5700G, having picked the APU since I wanted to use the integrated graphics while passing through my RX 580 to a Windows VM. I'm using the included Wraith Spire cooler (having since replaced the included thermal paste with Hydronaut trying to fix this issue), and I seem to be running into this situation where the built in GPU is overheating and shutting down the whole system. If I open a game and play for as little as two minutes, the screen will go black and my peripherals shut off, and the PC is completely unresponsive, not even holding down the power button or pressing the reset switch has an effect anymore. Checking the temps while in game, both CPU and GPU are at ~72°C, which shouldn't be overheating, but I've mostly confirmed it is actually a thermal problem by undervolting the living daylights out of the iGPU, and it started lasting much longer before shutting off. I've since removed the undervolt, so it's not a stability issue related to that. I've already remounted the cooler several times, reapplied thermal paste, disabled XMP on the memory, set the CPU to all defaults, limited the CPU max temp to 85°C using PBO settings, all of it not having an effect. And now, after quite a few thermal shutdowns, I'm getting some artifacts and colored flashes on the screen every once in a while. Is the built in GPU in my APU dead? My theory is that the soldered TIM between the die and the IHS was not applied properly from the factory. I thought this was really strange since I figured it would thermal throttle before shutting off and seemingly getting damaged like this, which is why I have that theory, thinking that there's a hot spot on the die where the software thermal sensors I can see aren't measuring. Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G Stock Wraith Spire cooler Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite (on the latest F14 BIOS) 2x16GB ADATA 3200MHz DDR4 AMD Radeon RX 580 STRIX (sitting idle in this case) EVGA 650W PSU Arch Linux, on kernel 5.16.2

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Hi guys, new here. I come in search of desperate help. Just built my PC a month ago, and can't seem to get it right. There's definitively something wrong and I don't know what else to do. It will randomly freeze, sound keeps going, and after some seconds screen goes black, and complete lockup. Will do it every couple of hours at least. Sometimes it will go BSOD too, or tabs in Firefox crash randomly. Very, very unstable. The lockups happen especially when gaming or doing 3D rendering stuff. I have tried with W11 and W10 with no noticeable difference. Specs: APU: Ryzen 7 5700G MB: Asus ROG Strix B550F Gaming WiFi RAM: (2x8)16Gb Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 3600Mhz PSU: Corsair RM650W 80+Gold SSD: Samsung 980 Nvme 500Gb Corsair H100i Capellix AIO 240mm Corsair 4000x Chassis So far I have tried the following with no success: - Reinstalling SO (W11 or W10) - BIOS Update from 2403 to 2423 - Enable/Disable DOCP to 3600 - Manually entering 3600 Mhz / 1800 FCLK - Enabling / Disabling Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) - Installing drivers from AMD and from Asus, different versions. Still having lockups. - With and without Armoury Crate - With and without iCue - Reseating PSU cables (x3) - Changing RAM modules (installed in A2/B2 as per MB instructions) - Using a single stick of RAM. (This gave me hope as I could play for about 1 hour) - Tightening/ Loosening AIO pump mount screws - Tightening / loosening MB screws - Cleared CMOS - Set SOC Voltage to 1.05 - Disabling C-States - (Everyone says to change Power Supply Idle Control to Typical, but this is a setting I can't seem to find in my BIOS) -Reinstalling RAM, APU, checking MB connections. -Can't really remember what else I have done so far. Benchmarks passed without any issues, and with max 75C for the CPU package during the most demanding tests. - Heaven (with and without OC) - Cinebench R23 - OCCT - MemTest86 (x4 times. Twice with both sticks, and once for every RAM stick) I have read most of (if not all) of the forums and topics covering similar issues. I am afraid there's something wrong with my hardware, but don't know where to start to get a clear diagnose. Guys, I really need your help. I can get similar sticks of RAM but with different timings, I would change from C18 to C16 which should be better. But can't really tell if this is the issue. Do you think it's the RAM? APU? MB? Your help is greatly appreciated, And if you just read all of this, thanks!

Should I get a gtx 780ti with i3 10100f, a Ryzen 5 5600G APU or a gtx 1050ti with an i3 10100f? BTW the i3 10100f can be replaced with an i3 10105f, which is slightly faster. What should I do? (Other specs are 16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram, 500gb ssd, and 500W PSU which can be replaced with higher wattage PSU if necessary)

Hi Does the MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI support 1080p 144Hz on the onboard DisplayPort or HDMI Port? The specifications page says that it only supports "a maximum resolution of 4096x2160 @60Hz". I mainly play esports games like Valorant, CSGO, APEX etc, so it should be able to push 144 frames on 1080p/720p low settings, so I want see if a 144hz monitor is going to work. Thanks!