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---- Note to moderators: I created this new thread since the build log has been dormant for such a long time that reviving the old thread would be tantamount to necromancy. Should you prefer that however, feel free to inform me and merge the threads. ---- An Introduction Nearly two years ago I started a build log on these forums as part of a project to visually enhance my otherwise perfectly functional, albeit partially aging, gaming rig, which I'd already previously named Melanie in accordance with my preponderance for giving girls' names to my computers. I worked on it for a bit, and then I got kind of sidetracked and forgot about the whole thing. Part of the motivation for upgrading Melanie was not necessarily related to aesthetics, but more to the fact that my AMD Phenom II X6 1055T was starting to show its age somewhat, and while the FX-series had never represented an actual upgrade, the prospect of the then-recently announced Zen microarchitecture was very enticing indeed. Here we are, more than a dozen months later, and the microarchitecture in question is finally about to get released. To that end, and with my desire to upgrade my CPU still very strong, I decided to officially revisit this build in a build log here. A Small Sitrep Given that I quite suddenly gave up on the old build log without having achieved even half of its goals, particularly when it comes to aesthetics, the current state of Melanie can really best be summed up as "something of a half-arsed effort". It looks perfectly functional, and I'm still very much in love with the way that graphics card paintjob turned out. The colour scheme is also mostly on point and consistent throughout the build, though the brown PCB of my ASRock 970 Extreme4 is still as much of an eyesore as it ever was. Equally, the Kingston HyperX Fury DIMMs, while made by the greatest RAM manufacturer on the planet and certainly not ugly, don't have quite the "punch" that I expected them to have when I bought them; they look rather docile next to the graphics card and even the CPU cooler. Fortunately, the upgrade to Zen will give me cause to replace both those components (even though at the time, I bought the Furys in the hope that Zen would have DDR3 support). For those who immediately clicked on the link above to go through my old build log, I have to add a few things to bring you up to speed. Since that build log went dead, I actually went out and bought a windowed side panel, as the folly of doing a lot of internal surgery that won't be seen by anyone started to dawn on me more and more, as well as an extra dual-SSD tray from Phanteks that is officially sold for the Enthoo Primo, but I found works just as well in the Enthoo Pro. Sadly neither of those things are visible in the picture above. What is visible is that I changed my boot drive, from a Samsung 850 Evo 250GB to a Kingston HyperX Predator 240GB. Yes, I know that going from a SATA SSD to a non-NVMe M.2 SSD isn't necessarily the greatest speed upgrade you can make, but the M.2 drive actually has a very specific role to play in the new build, which I will get to later. A Parts List Since the main part of this build log will be a platform upgrade, things such as the PSU, graphics card, case and storage drives will remain unchanged. The CPU cooler will also stay, as I really love the slim yet powerful PH-TC14S. A quick rundown of the current configuration (excluding fans and non-boot drives) would come down to the following: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (stock clocks at 2.8GHz) Phanteks PH-TC14S ASRock 970 Extreme 4 Kingston HyperX Fury (2x8GB, 1866MHz, CAS9) Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming Kingston HyperX Predator 240GB Corsair RM750X Phanteks Enthoo Pro I shan't go through the entire list again for the system as it will be, but the new CPU, motherboard and RAM are as follows: AMD Ryzen7 1800X Gigabyte Aorus X370-Gaming 5 G.Skill TridentZ (2x8GB, 3200MHz, CAS16) A minor difference that is worth being born in mind is that in the current configuration, my GTX 970 is running stock clocks, because it's already borderline bottlenecked by the CPU anyway and giving it extra voltage for no significant extra performance seems a bit silly. I might give it a bit of an overclock as part of the build log, even if the main limiting factor of the 970 at the moment is not its GPU computing power but its VRAM capacity. Just to throw in an extra picture, here's the preordered CPU and motherboard (the RAM I've already got): As you can plainly see from the little picture (or Gigabyte's site, if you don't want to strain your eyes), the Aorus board fits the existing aesthetic of the build very neatly, and I don't anticipate having to do any painting or other modding on the heatsinks and cosmetic shrouds of the board. A Few Photos As I mentioned, I've already got the RAM. I preordered it a while ago because of the rising RAM prices and my unwillingness to pay more money for the exact same product if I waited until now to buy the stuff. As we know, Ryzen CPUs are currently having some issues with high-speed RAM, so I'll probably clock it down from 3200MHz to 2666MHz until the rumoured fix in the shape of a BIOS update comes along. I will be painting the coolers on these DIMMs to make them match the theme of the build a bit better. As it stands, they already fit the colour scheme excellently, but I want to have more blue in the system, and so the black parts of the RAM coolers will be painted metallic blue (for reference, it's the same as the backplate of the graphics card in the sitrep picture) Another thing that I've already got is the AM4 mounting kit for my PH-TC14S. Phanteks was kind enough to send me one free of charge, which I think is excellent, and it dropped on the mat just today. I was expecting an AM4 kit, but what I actually got is a kit that fits both AM4's and the old AMD mounting holes, in the same way that many coolers already do with Intel's 115X series of sockets and their ever-so-slightly different mounting holes. Nice! An Outro That wraps it up for this first installment in my new build log. I'll be back tomorrow to show off some of the renders for the to-be-3D-printed shrouds* as well as more elaboration on what other things I plan to do. Equally, expect a lengthy update once the CPU and motherboard have been delivered. Thanks very much for bearing with me, and I promise I'll actually finish the build this time. * = There's a teaser for the PSU shroud in the header image already, if you truly cannot wait.

source: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-Newer-Kernel Phoronix got their hands on some info and it appears that Zen CPUs will need a new kernel to operate at full functionality Ubuntu 16.10 shipped with kernel 4.8 and the new changes are part of 4.10 kernel (backported to 4.9.10) - the issue (if it boots) is that SMT will be disabled with older kernels at least people on Linux need to update their OS' Kernel and not switch the entire fucking OS .... Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) is planned to ship in April and will be based on Kernel 4.9.x --- secondary issue: most AM4 mobos will ship with Realtek ALC1220 audio codec - this will get support only in Kernel 4.11

Today i was checking some stuff about the new crosshair vi hero, by accident i clicked on cpu support list and i found this If this informations are right (and i think they are) we're going to see a product stack like this: APU: -A12 9800 65w tdp 3.8ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 2mb of L2 cache -A12 9800E 35w tdp 3.1ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 2mb of L2 cache -A10 9700 65w tdp 3.5ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 2mb of L2 cache -A10 9700E 35w tdp 3.0ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 2mb of L2 cache -A8 9600 65w tdp 3.1ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 2mb of L2 cache -A6 9500 65w tdp 3.5ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 1mb of L2 cache -A6 9500E 35w tdp 3.0ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 1mb of L2 cache CPU -Athlon x4 65w tdp 3.5ghz 4 cores (possibly 8 threads ?) 2mb of L2 cache Link to the page: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_CPU/ Sorry for my bad english

It seems that quite a bit of info has come out about the zen architecture thanks to David Kanter, who was the same guy who figured out that nvidia's Maxwell and Pascal GPU architectures are utilizing tile based rasterization. You can check out his full deep dive here. Now I won't pretend to even understand half of it, but some of those of you out there with EE, CE, CS, or any other major that required extensive knowledge about CPU architecture may find it quite interesting. As well, if you're interested, David Kanter also did an interview with PCPer about the zen architecture which you can check out here: I think that all this info arose from ISSCC. I've found it quite interesting even if I didn't understand all of it. It seems though that zen won't be very suitable for HPC; perhaps they did this to save die space in order to maximize profits of consumer and server CPUs. As well, it seems zen ipc would be between Ivy bridge and haswell. I'm honestly not surprised, there have only been a limited amount of official benchmarks from AMD and since they were the ones showing them off I wouldn't be surprised if they were cherry picked. However, even if it's only ivy bridge IPC, zen still could very well shake up the whole CPU market.

Now before you guys say anything, I have a list from online of the available heatsinks and AIO for the Ryzen AM4 platform. My main question is, because I saw it on another tech site, that the previous AM3+ stock socket design coolers are compatible with AM4 sockets without removing the sides where you would normally clamp it on. Does anyone have any information on whether or not it's been confirmed that stock design coolers will work on AM4? Apparently, AM3+ and AM4 is the same size socket and has the same specification on the mounting. The only thing that is difference are the screw placements. Thanks guys! PS... Already preordered and I can't wait!

Please delete if retoast. The german techsite heise.de hits a potential releasedate for Ryzen. Source: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kerniges-zum-Karneval-AMD-Ryzen-kommt-wohl-am-28-Februar-3597324.html Now to keep it real: As long as AMD doesn't confirm a release date, it's just speculation. However, if AMD keeps to the plan of releasing Ryzen in Q1, this would be a good time. Now, there are no information weather this is just the paper-launch or the actual launch. Also wasn't there a contest where you could win a Ryzen CPU that ends early February?

so any news about the zen or (ryzen) processors compared to an i5 or an i3 not the very high end version?

AMD's Zen server side of things, called Naples has been detailed. AMD has planned to launch 2 of them, in 1U or 2U configurations. The 1U system supports up to 32 NVMe drive, 4 gpus, and has dual Infiniband EDR interconnect to communicate between the storage and server. The 2U one, supports 6 discrete graphic cards, up to 26 NVMe drives, and has a single Infiniband EDR interconnect. AMD Naples will have up to 128 PCIe gen 3 lanes and 8 channel DDR4 memory architecture. The cpu itself will have up to 32 cores and 64 threads with a tdp of 35-180w. http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-naples-server-cpu-vega-gpu-platform/

Before I ask my quesiton, let me state: the 1700 vs 1700X argument has been done to death, and I know 99.9% of the people go for the 1700 because of the overclockability and price. The model of the chip is based on voltage binning. However, I want to bring a variation to the argument: if you have better odds of winning the silicon lottery for a minimal price difference ($40 where I live), would you do it for the higher voltage binning? If you already plan on overclocking the unit and already have a cooling solution with that in mind, could it be worth the small price difference?

Currently i have an FX 6300 which is failing to hold its weight in todays games. I will be upgrading to a Ryzen 1500X. I just need to help and some steps on how to upgrade my processor. I know how to take the mobo and processor out, but what i need help with is when i plug everything up for the first time, do i have to install windows first? or bois updates? i dont know where to go after i install the cpu. thanks

Source is WCCFtech so take with the usual grain of salt: http://wccftech.com/amd-taking-the-covers-off-vega-navi-may-16th/ They then immediately add: No product launches, but roadmaps roadmaps and more roadmaps. And maybe some Vega details, although that's slated for its own event, most likely to be held during Computex. What makes WCCFtech think May 16th will be "the" day? Well, there's one official AMD event on that date, namely the 2017 Financial Analyst Day: http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-analystday . All the big names will be present (Lisa Su, Mark Papermaster, Raja Koduri, the lot), so they'll talk about something. If it's Vega or not, we'll have to wait and see. But again, take this with a massive amount of salt. It's WCCFtech after all.

So...think the upcoming releases of the supposedly AMD 12C/16C 4094 pin chips are going to be within the financial reach of normal men, or are these intended to be new Xeon competitors? http://hothardware.com/news/amd-16-core-threadripper-cpus-to-utilize-4094-pin-socket

Source: https://techreport.com/news/31919/ryzen-threadripper-cpus-will-offer-16-cores-and-32-threads So just after the tons of rumors about an even higher end "consumer" platform from AMD were going around, AMD actually went ahead and announced it. It looks like Threadripper will go straight against the higher end Skylake-X CPUs. It's interesting that AMD has, just like Intel, decided to split the platforms, except that AMD has decided to make their higher end platform only make sense to consumers that need a lot of cores. It'll be interesting to see the prices of these CPUs, and to see how Skylake-X vs Threadripper turns out. EDIT: Note that this is not a repost, due to it being an official announcement, whereas other threads are leaks and rumors. EDIT V2.0: Courtesy of @NumLock21, it seems Skroutz has accidentally leaked two of the threadripper CPUs. Alternatively, you can view it here: http://www.skroutz.gr/c/32/cpu-epeksergastes.html?keyphrase=threadripper The main info this seems to have given us is confirmation of the core count, clock speeds, and names of the two flagship threadripper cpus, the Ryzen Threadripper 1998 and 1998x. These are both 16 core CPUs and use the "SP3r2" socket, with the 1998 being clocked at 3.2 ghz and 1998x at 3.5 ghz. Cache size as well as turbo and XFR speeds are still unknown. It seems that sites like wccftech were actually accurate this time, with their leaked list showing the socket being SP3r2 and the 1998 and 1998x having base clocks of 3.2 and 3.5 ghz, respectively. It'll be interesting to see if we'll get more info about Threadripper at Computex.

source: http://www.os2museum.com/wp/vme-broken-on-amd-ryzen/ what is VME? also known as Virtual-8086 Mode Enhancements, it allows execution of real mode apps that cannot (were not designed) run in protected mode OS it's also used in hardware virtualization to emulate multiple x86 CPUs the Ryzen implementation what does it mean for the end-user? if the end user tries to run XP / WS2003 and earlier OSes, the system will either crash or hang - this affects both direct installs or through a VM not many end users need to run older OSes, but this particular issue can be problematic in a enterprise environments where they might need to run old OSes to keep their old equipment functional - if it ain't broke, don't fix it so far, reports have indicated Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows NT, FreeDOS to have issues while trying to run on Ryzen CPUs the workaround, at least if you run a VM environment - mask out the VME CPUID bit (bit 1 in register EDX of leaf 1)

A rumour posted by Tweaktown sourced from reddit states that we could see AMD'z new CPU pack a whopping 8-core / 16 threads TweakTown then went on to say that back in August the CPU was hitting around 3.8Ghz, now we're seeing results of 4.2Ghz overclocked and 5Ghz using LN2 Original Post here

Should I, and other AMD users that are planning on getting an AMD Zen CPU, buy DDR4 RAM now? I ask this because with AMD Zen requiring DDR4, I wonder if the price of DDR4 RAM will go up when Zen releases. Also, I know that DDR4 RAM at the moment appears to be Intel Optimized, so I was wondering if there will be AMD Optimized DDR4 RAM when Zen releases, or if it even matters. If this does not matter, let me know. I assume that DDR4 RAM is cheaper now than it will be when Zen releases, so again, should I go out and buy the RAM now while it is presumably cheaper?

Hey guys, I know that there isn't really a whole lot of info out right now regarding Zen, but I was curious as to whether you guys think I should grab an i3 6100 right now, grab a G4400, grab an Athlon X4 860, an FX-6300 or wait a few months for Zen. I have looked into this and it appears that both the 6300 and the G4400 are outstripped by the 6100 easily, but I'm just curious as to what you guys think is right. Looking at what LogicalIncrements says, it appears that an 860 is the right option, but I figured that it would be cool to get a second opinion. Thanks!

In this age where almost everything has gone digital, protecting personal information and login credentials are extremely important. But no matter how many layers of security are implemented, there is always a area, we might have missed and thus it opens a backdoor, where hackers can access it. Maybe AMD ZEN is about to change all this, with their SME and SVE hardware level based type of encryptions. Security Memory Encryption or SME for short is one of the exclusive features found in AMD Zen. The security feature protects user's data from hackers by encrypting system memory, as it was shown in the past, even after the system is turned off. Information such as passwords or other login credentials is still stored in system memory. If hackers can have assess to it, they can easily access those sensitive information, since the data are unencrypted, and in plain text format. Next is Security Encrypted Virtualization (SEV), it's similar to SME, but it's for Virtual Machines. And this is what AMD has to say about it. Both of these features are found in AMD's secure co-processor based on the ARM Cortex A5, that's built right into the Zen CPU. http://digiworthy.com/2016/10/12/amd-zen-sme-sev-encryption-features-detailed/

I am thinking about getting an I5 6600k for gaming because you don't really need anything more for gaming, but I have been thinking about waiting for AMD's 8 core 16 thread zen processor because apparently is performs equal to that of broadwell E but it will be priced around $350 USD. I am not a fanboy on Intel or AMD but I am thinking about getting zen because I'm thinking about getting an rx 480/vega if I can buy it just so I can have a red aesthetic build with a red set of parts as the specs (AMD=red team).

I've been discussing with some friends the possibility of the new AMD Zen processor, will it hold up to the hype? Is there going to be some fatal flaw? Or is this possible the Intel killer, thus bringing back AMD to the top of the throne. What does everyone think, I'm interested to know. Leave what you think down below and discuss with others too.

Hello guys, i need your help again. As the community standards pointed out that everyone has to write 5 points in the New Builds and Planning section 1. Budget & Location I live in the silly place for computer parts, because they don't think that Xeons are cheap, they think it is so awesome They also give ridiculous pricing for Graphics card! like $480 for RX 580 4GB. The PC Part Picker of Indonesia for used and new parts are : -OLX.co.id -https://www.bukalapak.com/ My budget is around Rp.14.655.443 ($1100). Also the currency is Rupiah (IDR) 2. Aim I am gonna be using my PC for Streaming and Gaming, specifically at 1080p 60Hz and FHD Quality Stream. But my games are gonna be Need for Speed series, Minecraft and Games like Crysis 3 3. Monitors Just a Samsung 1080p Curved 40 inch TV, and is it worth if i exchange for the LG's Largest 4K Monitor 43UD79? I bought the FHD TV For like $446 New when 2015 4. Peripherals I already hunted for Logitech equipments Like G413 keyboard and G403 Mouse. Also a Razer Kraken Pro is bundled with my upcoming PSU 5. Why am i upgrading? I already have a super old PC (LGA 775) and i think i can sell it for $121 (if you want the specs of it tell me) so i can make the PC Price not so Expensive. But what i have listed is this 1. Ryzen 5 1600 : $201.28 Link2. Asus X370-Pro : $193.73 Link3. Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4-2666 : $93.07 Link4. Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB : $256.825. Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD : $50.926. Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD : $84.267. Corsair HX650i + Razer Kraken Pro : $120.908. Corsair Carbide 330r : $50.92Total : $1073.85 Well i am gonna use this thing as a light workstation so i can edit school tasks (video), and my friend's content (also Video) But i would like to have 75Hz experience in summary then, is this actually good? let me know in the comment section below and as always thank you

Considering getting a ryzen 7 1700. I know amd are sticking with am4 socket , but has it been comfirmed yet if an x370 board will work for ryzen 2 ?

So I've owned my Ryzen build for just under a month now and have had problems from the beginning. It started out as a "TSLGame.exe has been blocked from accessing graphics hardware" issue, which I posted on reddit about and tried everything (new drivers, old drivers, downclocking the card, reseating the card etc etc) till I read online that it could be ram, so I downloaded memtest and straight away got errors, I was happy to pin point the problem so I bought the pro version and got a log file created and filed for an RMA with the place that stocked the parts and built/setup my machine for me. The next day I ran memtest again and couldnt get errors, went to 100% coverage and still got nothing back, any game I tried to play continued to crash so I went out sourcing more ways to test my system. Came across AIDA64 and how it was the be all and end all of stressing so I gave it a run, low and behold on CPU/FPU/Cache and it came back with the "Warning: Hardware failure detected! Test Stopped" error. I finally think I have pinpointed whats wrong, but not sure where to go next. Is there any easy way to my system stable or is it a case of I need to RMA my CPU? I didn't build this myself but rather got a reputable computer builder/parts stockist in Australia to put it together for me, I have a "Certificate of quality assurance" that literally says the CPU was tested/burnt in and that all the parts were tested/compatible with eachother so I could call their bluff if theres nothing I can really do here... Ryzen 1700X (Stock) Zotac 1080ti Amp Extreme ASRock X370 Professional Gaming G.Skill TridentZ 4x16gb 3200mhz @ 3066 16-16-16-36 Corsair RM750X Samsung 950 EVO 250gb ssd (OS/boot) Have been a mac editor/user for the last while and god I miss none of these random errors haha Below is a screencap of the aida64 error, core 5/6 seem to drop their load right before the crash?

Which one should I buy? Gaming and Productivity

Just like the title says...Ryzen 3 or Intel G4560 for gaming? I saw a jayz2cents vid saying that team blue is better...but a couple cpu comparing websites state otherwise...so I just want to be sure...will be paired with a 1050ti and 8gb of ram