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  1. Another day, another Intel product lineup! Intel has announced the successor to the Xeon E3 1200 v6 line. The new line of Xeon processors will be called "Xeon Entry". As Ian Cutress says Intel's naming schemes have become train wrecks both for the consumer and the enterprise markets. The naming for the new Intel Xeon lineups is as follows: Xeon E3(non-scalable): Xeon Entry (LGA 1151-2?) Xeon E5(non-scalable): Workstation (LGA 2066) Xeon E5(scalable): Scalable (LGA 3647) Xeon E7(scalable): Scalable (LGA 3647) The two processors that were announced were mobile Coffee Lake Xeons. These are the third generation of mobile Xeons and will likely have six cores. Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12087/intel-xeon-e3-1200-v7-xeon-entry-xeon-e
  2. I wanna get a 1080 TI but im trying to save a bit of money by going with a weaker cpu (I do plan on upgrading it in the future) would these 2 cpu's bottleneck the 1080 TI?
  3. Hello all, this is my first time posting. Well, I recently got myself an i3-8100. My budget isn't very high, maybe upto 150? Now, the MSI motherboards seem really fine, particularly the z370 pc pro and z370 tomahawk. Of course the SLI Plus and other higher costing mobos have slipped in some extras, but I'm not looking for much. Just gaming and music. Good gaming though. The PC Pro and Tomahawk seem to have similar specs, besides the build up. The one thing I am puzzled about is that PC Pro has ALC887, while Tomahawk has ALC892. Will the difference be much? Also, I'll probably get myself a DAC or a soundcard in near future. And I'm also looking for a CPU upgrade perhaps in future. Which of the aforementioned is better? Thank you.
  4. hello, I'm looking for help with my build I'm buying tonight. I'm trying to get a 3 pack of cooler master - master fan pro rgb fans and connect them to asus aura sync but the mother board have only has 2 rgb headers and I also have 2 rgb strips in my build. is there a way to connect all of them? any feedback would be great. The list below shows what I have except the rgb strips and the fan controller that comes with the fans because I'm ordering off new egg. PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4czYnn Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4czYnn/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($548.78 @ Memory Express) CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X52 Rev 2 73.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($190.38 @ Newegg Canada) Thermal Compound: ARCTIC - MX4 4g Thermal Paste ($10.06 @ Memory Express) Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($258.70 @ PC Canada) Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.58 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($223.98 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($243.88 @ Vuugo) Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($1097.58 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Cooler Master - COSMOS C700P ATX Full Tower Case ($425.58 @ Memory Express) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($223.98 @ Newegg Canada) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($162.12 @ Vuugo) Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC56 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($87.34 @ PC Canada) Case Fan: Cooler Master - MasterFan Pro 140 Air Flow RGB 53.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($29.10 @ Amazon Canada) Case Fan: Cooler Master - MasterFan Pro 140 Air Flow RGB 53.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($29.10 @ Amazon Canada) Case Fan: Cooler Master - MasterFan Pro 140 Air Flow RGB 53.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($29.10 @ Amazon Canada) Monitor: Acer - Predator X34 34.0" 3440x1440 100Hz Monitor ($1567.98 @ Amazon Canada) Keyboard: Asus - ROG Claymore Wired Gaming Keyboard ($372.96 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace) Mouse: Asus - ROG Spatha Wireless Laser Mouse ($223.98 @ Newegg Canada) Headphones: Audio-Technica - M50x Headphones ($222.88 @ Amazon Canada) Speakers: Razer - Leviathan 60W 5.1ch Speakers ($302.38 @ Memory Express) Total: $6535.44 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-12 03:46 EST-0500
  5. I will be playing games & also playing on emulators as well. I dont do video editing or any of those sorts. Which will suit me more? I plan to play on 1080p 60hz for now but will upgrade to maybe 144hz or even 4k in a few years
  6. Hello! I am building a PC in near future and i have all the components somewhat chosen. So i ran into a problem as i am kinda new in PC building. Im not sure which heatsink to buy. I know that will be going for air cooling but i really dont know what i should get. The processor i am going for is i7 8700k and i am going to do some minor overclocking. My case is phanteks p400s and my Mobo will be MSI Z370-a pro. So back to the question, what processor cooler should i buy? Cheers Also sorry for some possible typos its 2 am here in Finland an im a bit tired
  7. Hi there community, I'm currently running a i7-4790k with 32GB of ram on an Asus Z87-Pro board with an Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. Lucky me just got the opportunity to sell the motherboard with the CPU and Ram to a relative. So I am thinking about "upgrading" and started looking for information out there on CPU architectures - not knowing which is the "right" or "best" one. My setup goals I want to run my Zotac GTX 1080Ti AMP Extreme and invest in a M.2 SSD mainboard-integrated without running into bandwith issues or any bottleneck. Overclocking isn't my think but I always tried to keep this option available with my setups in the past. So maybe I will try to oc a tiny bit on this setup. (Mostly I don't stay on a setup for longer than 2-3 years bc I really like the feeling of a high-performing machine) Cores I thought about (all 6 core, 12 threads, comparable) i7-8700k (Coffee Lake on 1151 socket, 16 PCIe-lanes, 2 Memory Channels @64GB DDR4-2666) i7-7800k (Skylake on 2066 socket, 28 PCIe-lanes, 4 Memory Channels @128GB DDR4-2400) i7-5930k (Haswell-E on 2011-3 socket, 40 PCIe-lanes, 4 Memory Channels @64GB DDR4-2133) My worries/Which core should I pick in case of.. Memory Channels - Is the Quad-channel worth buying? I haven't found superior differences on benchmarks in comparison to Duo-channel. PCIe-lanes - Is the mainboard-integrated M.2 SSD consuming any PCIe lanes in the background? If the core can handle 16 lanes but the 1080Ti utilizes all of them, is there still bandwith for the M.2 SSD without restricting the 1080Ti? Socket - Which socket is staying up-to-date in the next years? (For reusing the mainboard) Memory - Should I go with the highest MHz so I can reuse it for my next core? I hope you guys can give me some advice and clarify me on my technical worries. Maybe you can also give me some good advice in terms of motherboard and chipset. Best regards from Germany, Marc
  8. I’m trying to build an RGB mATX coffee lake and I’m pretty new to this RGB trend. I’m planning on syncing the RGB with my case fans, cpu heatsink and my case I just got. (Phanteks Evolv mATX gray) I’ve got a question about the motherboard. Do I need a motherboard with RGB headers or should I get those RGB controller and if so, what would you recommend?
  9. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-coffee-lake-rollout-leaked-aida64/ <quote>The release notes also reveal processors that fall under Intel’s ninth-generation rollout slated for the back half of 2018. These could be based on a refresh of the current Coffee Lake design using 10nm+ process technology, or Intel’s true ninth-generation design dubbed as “Ice Lake.” They will likely not be a part of Intel’s “Cannon Lake” eighth-generation rollout slated for the end of 2017 that’s based on Intel’s first use of 10nm process technology.<quote> This is the first rumor I've seen concerning Intel's coffee lake extreme processors. It is only a rumor, atm, but DT also hints at Intel's "Cannon Lake" processors original article from Techspot https://www.techspot.com/news/72034-intel-8th-gen-9th-gen-cpu-list-leaked.html
  10. Basically what the title says. Where is the best place to buy an 8700k? Are there any deals right now? Should I get the Newegg Groupon cards? Should I use Ebates or something like that? What’s my best option?
  11. I'm currently buying parts for a new pc. I'm planning on getting a 8700k, delidding it, and overclocking it. What motherboard is better?
  12. As the title suggests, I am planning to build my first computer in the next few days (I have built a PC before so I have experience, this is just the first time it will be mine). At first I was planning to purchase an 8700k for the wonderful single and multi-threaded performance, but it is incredibly expensive ($420 at Microcenter in MN) and is usually out of stock, so I decided to buy either Kaby Lake or Ryzen 7. I intend to game at 1440p (I hope to get a 1440p 144hz Gsync monitor in the future) on a GTX 1080 Ti and will also be producing content for Youtube (likely streaming as well) and want to be able to multitask well in general. I understand that the 7700k is superior in games but falls short of the 1700x for tasks that can benefit from many threads. However, because the 1700x is so cheap right now ($230 at Microcenter) and the difference in FPS between the 1700x and 7700k is less significant in 1440p, I'm leaning towards the 1700x. From my research I found a lot of fanboys for both team red and team blue, so I'd like some realistic input if at all possible. Assuming I purchased the 1700x, is this a good motherboard? Would I likely achieve a 4.0 GHz OC? Or how about this memory? I'm looking for low profile RAM so it will fit under my Noctua cooler. Thanks in advance for any feedback!
  13. http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-is-cannonlake-in-disguise/ Apparently Coffee Lake will be using a scaled-up version of Cannonlake's architecture both for CPU cores and iGPUs. The reasoning for this is quite clear: 10nm yields will take time to tune even once mass production begins, and a 6-core die should be made on a more mature process to start 10nm will start limiting upper clock speeds as Intel stated in the last year, and these are performance-oriented chips for enthusiast-grade laptops and high-end desktops with mainstream chipsets/motherboards. The costs of 10nm need to be amortized out across more segments so no single one takes a large price hike, and squeezing out more revenue from 14nm before it completely retires to use by Altera and ARM producers further amortizes that costly node too. Good on Intel for wising up to defray costs. This move should placate multiple parties in the PC world while cutting costs.
  14. http://wccftech.com/intel-14nm-coffee-lake-10nm-cannonlake-2018/ According to a "leaked" roadmap provided by WCCF, Intel will have 2 simultaneous platforms in 2018: a 10nm Cannonlake one and a 14nm Coffee Lake one. This would be the single biggest change in tactics Intel has made since abandoning the mobile phone market and would represent a huge shift in node shrink prospects imho. According to this rumor, Cannonlake will be available in the usual 4C + GT2 graphics configuration for mainstream desktop and mobile, but Coffee Lake will also be available in a 6-core + GT2 AND GT3e flavor. Why Intel would be making higher core count chips on a larger node at the same time 10nm should be primed and ready is beyond me, but it does seem interesting if nothing else. 6 cores on both desktop AND laptop is a revolutionary change for the mainstream too. Only a very few laptops have ever been outfitted with E5 Xeons, so if true, it's an exciting change. Personally, I think this rumor is a bit fishy, especially since Intel confirmed Cannonlake is on track for H2 of 2017, but I can't say I'm opposed. Now if mainstream software would just catch up and pressure quad-core machines then this might be more justifiable... Nothing was mentioned in terms of sockets, but I suspect Coffee Lake would have to occupy a new one other than LGA 1151 for desktop.
  15. Hello, I'm currently running an old system consist mainly of an i5-2400, Intel DB65AL, 2X4GB ram (1 DDR2 and 1 DDR3), Gigabyte GTX 750 TI Windforce, 550W PSU (Antec VP550P). My original plan was to upgrade a key component every year to keep costs down in hope of playing every title in 1080P aiming at high-ultra. This year I planned on replacing the CPU+MoBo with something like an i5-6600K and an MSI Gaming 3 or similar so that by next year I can upgrade the GPU and perhaps get better Ram. Since, Coffee Lake was released. The way I see it I have 2 options: 1. Buy a GPU (like a 1050 TI) and postpone my CPU upgrade till next year in hopes that coffee lake CPU and z370 boards prices will come down to my budget. 2. Buy a Kaby Lake CPU like an i5-7600K + air cooler like the EVO 212 and a z270 mother board (in hopes their prices will drop in the coming months due to the compatibility issue with Coffee Lake) and upgrade my GPU next year to something like a 1080 TI. 2nd option will cost more today but will allow me to step up next year with a good GPU while the 1st option will get me through the next couple of years with a CPU and Motherboard that will last for longer. Any suggestions?
  16. Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/08/02/intels-coffee-lake-cpus-not-compatible-with-z270-motherboards-says-asrock/#34766d7b76a2 So according to ASRock, Coffee Lake CPUs won't be backwards compatible with Z270/Z170 motherboards despite using the same LGA 1151 socket which is what many people have hoped for (Including me, running a Z170 Extreme4 mobo). This was posted by forbes and they provided the above screenshot as proof, which makes it pretty much confirmed news. It pains me to see this as I hoped for the possibility of using those 6-cores in older boards including my own Z170 one. There is no word on Z170 to be precise but one can logically assume they're not going to be supported as well. It's probably either due to some architectural changes in Coffee Lake over Skylake & Kaby Lake or it's just Intel being assholes again and creating artificial limitations so people buy more CPUs Thoughts? UPDATE: TechPowerUp just posted pictures of Intel's Coffee Lake i7 and i5 CPUs and they look like this: Note what is written on the side of the boxes: "Requires Intel 300 Series chipset-based motherboards". I think that confirms it for people who didn't take ASRock's tweet as solid proof. Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/236313/intel-8th-gen-core-i5-and-core-i7-retail-boxes-pictured
  17. So I've been "commissioned" to setup VR for a family member and consequently build a machine capable of such a task. I have been able to obtain a 300-series Mini ITX board and a total of around 90% of the components I need to build the computer, but I've noticed the processor I chose - the Intel Core i5-8400, isn't widely available and the resellers on Amazon asking way too much for such a processor of this calibre. The only place I've found the chip in question was on eBuyer but it says it won't be available until the 30th of November at the earliest! Luckily I don't need to have the system ready 'till the 2nd-3rd week of December but I'm wondering why is this (or other Coffee Lake) processor(s)so rare? Even the US Amazon site doesn't have it listed except by resellers that are also asking a stupid amount for the processor. I'm tempted to go with Ryzen 5, but I would like to know why this chip is so limited. Thanks in advance!
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