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    Meebles got a reaction from Stefan Payne in Finalizing Build. Buying tomorrow. Is this list good?   
    Definitely listen to this guy!!! He helped me wih 2 builds and mine was the 9600k. I could not be more happy with it. It's smooth and the build runs everything I throw at it easily. I can also verify that it does beat my friend's build with an 8700 and the same graphics card, but why anyone would think otherwise to begin with seems odd to me. The 9600K can go to 5ghz and the 8700 is stuck at 4.3 or something like that
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    Meebles got a reaction from Herman Mcpootis in Finalizing Build. Buying tomorrow. Is this list good?   
    Definitely listen to this guy!!! He helped me wih 2 builds and mine was the 9600k. I could not be more happy with it. It's smooth and the build runs everything I throw at it easily. I can also verify that it does beat my friend's build with an 8700 and the same graphics card, but why anyone would think otherwise to begin with seems odd to me. The 9600K can go to 5ghz and the 8700 is stuck at 4.3 or something like that
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    Meebles got a reaction from jerubedo in Finalizing Build. Buying tomorrow. Is this list good?   
    Definitely listen to this guy!!! He helped me wih 2 builds and mine was the 9600k. I could not be more happy with it. It's smooth and the build runs everything I throw at it easily. I can also verify that it does beat my friend's build with an 8700 and the same graphics card, but why anyone would think otherwise to begin with seems odd to me. The 9600K can go to 5ghz and the 8700 is stuck at 4.3 or something like that
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    Meebles reacted to GoldenLag in Are 9900K R0 Stepping CPUs Out in the Wild Yet?   
    can allways get the 3700x and overclock, that is money saved since the OC limit is more or less allways the same. 
    what board are you picking?
     
    also you can grab x470 boards and order a free bootkit from AMD is the board is an issue. and keep in mind these 200$ boards are actually really good. 
    but yes the x570 will most likely be a tad expencive. 
    i just want to note that good aircoolers are just as good as AIOs while being more reliable. 
     
    price is most likely similar depending on what solution you go for. in the end final pricing and independant benchmarks will decide. for now it looks promising. 
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    If you can wait for July to see new Ryzen chips, do so. They might be as good as Intel chips in gaming, we'll see. If not, this build should fit your needs well:
     
    PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i5-9600KF 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $249.99 @ Walmart CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Green) CPU Cooler $34.79 @ OutletPC Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $109.89 @ OutletPC Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC Storage Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $689.99 @ Newegg Case Thermaltake - Versa N24 ATX Mid Tower Case $34.99 @ Newegg Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $62.98 @ Newegg   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $1424.41   Mail-in rebates -$115.00   Total $1309.41   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 00:58 EDT-0400   The 9600K will beat out the 2600 by a decent margin in almost every game for 144Hz gaming as seen here:
     
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-cpu,5922.html
    and
    https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/intel-core-i5-9600k-review/5/
    Just as two examples.
     
    The 2080 is indeed a good choice. In order to keep the build a little cheaper I just have a 500GB SSD there. You can bump it up to 1TB and still be in budget, or add a 1TB or 2TB HDD, again still within budget.
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    It's sufficient. Here's some data on the 212 black cooling an OCed 5930K (6c/12t). Now the black does do a little better than the LED (which does a little better than the EVO), so you can expect slight difference:
     

     
    So ~91C at FULL load, while OCed. The 9600K will run cooler than that, being only 6c/6t, and it won't ever see those kind of temps on a gaming load. Prime95 AVX forces extremely high temps that you'd never see in any other scenario. So in gaming loads, I'd expect 65C-70C in more demanding games. That's just fine.
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    Meebles got a reaction from jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    Yay! I'll go ahead and mark this answer as the solution since I basically used your build and just changed the ram and cooler. and the tower because I was forced to. Daniel and Brob, thank you too. The 9600K over the kf was a good call I think.
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    Looks good to me!  
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    Meebles got a reaction from jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    OK, I decided to go for the 9600K. The $10 is worth the peace of mind I guess. I think I'll stick with my cooler choice, though. I just don't trust liquid.I wouldn't upgrade the cpu. By the time I'm ready for a new one I'd get whatever the latest and greatest is with a new motherboard. I don't usually upgrade anything for several years. Usually 3-5 I guess.
     
    Final build?
    PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $259.89 @ OutletPC CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Newegg Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $109.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill - Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $72.98 @ Newegg Storage Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $689.99 @ Newegg Case Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $62.98 @ Newegg   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $1430.60   Mail-in rebates -$120.00   Total $1310.60   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 15:38 EDT-0400    
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    Meebles reacted to Daniel Z. in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    But the ML240L is only $20 more and it’s far better. Also, the 212 would need replacing if OP ever wanted a 9700k or 9900k.
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    Meebles reacted to Daniel Z. in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    Once my GPU was working weirdly and my iGPU made it possible for me to keep working until I figured it out.
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    He means if your GPU ever dies, then you have the iGPU to fall back on to figure things out with. If that's worth the $10 to you, that's your call. There's no performance difference between the two chips.
     
    It's possible, but most companies will cover damaged parts on a per-case basis if there was a leak.
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    Meebles reacted to BigRom in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    If OP were trying a sub-$1000 Intel build I would agree.
    But I mean OP's budget of $1400 isn't exactly small, there is definitely room in there for a better Z-series motherboard and support for higher speed memory.
     
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    Meebles reacted to brob in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    When one buys a locked cpu one gets a known performance envelope. The fact that the performance is predictable with certainty is not a negative. These cpu have significantly lower TDP leading to quieter and typically less expensive cooling solutions. They can also be used with less expensive motherboards.
     
    The average performance improvement realized by overclocking is offset by the increased total system cost. Fine if one wants the highest possible performance. For those with a more limited budget a locked cpu can make more sense.
     
     
    While some games have shown an improvement with higher speed memory the difference is generally less than 10%. For the budget conscious, not worth the added cost.
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    Your argument on both fronts is that the parts might  perform better later. I don't know about the OP, but I want my performance now, not later. And in some titles it's more than 2-5 FPS. I'd say that on average it's probably around there, but in titles where clocks matter more, you can expect a little more, but even so 5 FPS more is still 5 FPS more. Plus the 8700 costs 25% more than the 9600K. Better performance right now for a better price right now = better in my book.
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    Meebles reacted to Devryd in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    also the i7 8700 doesn't have a soldered hs, but uses thermal paste as far as i know.
    The i5 9600k is soldered, which results in better temps and a quieter system
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    Also locking the RAM speed to 2666MHz by using a B365 board.
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    Meebles reacted to Devryd in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    the 9600k is a little faster in single core work loads than the 8700 non k.
    The Radeon VII is about 4% slower over all than the RTX 2080
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    The 9600K beats the 8700 in most gaming loads because of the higher clocks, especially if you get it up to 5.0GHz. The 8700 does have more threads, but on 6 cores that largely doesn't affect overall gaming performance right now. It COULD in the future, but when that point will come, no one knows. For Vega VII vs the 2080, they trade blows, but the 2080 gives access to Ray Tracing hardware and it draws less power.
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    Meebles reacted to brob in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    The i5-9600K is only US$10 more than the i5-9600KF. I think it is worth that little bit more to have an iGPU. It's useful as a backup gpu. It also has Quick Sync which can be beneficial for video editing, transcoding, streaming, etc.
     
     
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    Meebles reacted to jerubedo in Gaming PC, Please Help.   
    Yep, I'm sure. Those are two big review sites that are reputable. There are also results that are the same from AnandTech, and Tech Powerup. The reason Intel wins in gaming loads, right now, is because of better IPC, better clocks, and better lower latency. Ryzen 3000 in July might change that, but we don't know yet.
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