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well, I don't know much about this case but it sounds to me you're having a lot of hardships with the distro... might as well try another one pop!_os finds the drivers and guide you in a sort of dumbproof way... you could install it and come back to manjaro once you've learned bash enough or you could force your way through with some bash crash courses... and a lot of googling around, try arch linux wiki...

been learning C for college... all I can say is I freakin love it, and performance is a blast I don't think it's slower than other less strict languages, you'll just need to pay attention to what you're doing EDIT: I meant slow in the coding proccess

A way to teach coding without really programming but still coding. Learnt it in college last semester, it was fun.

Most programming languages won't accept a special character such as "$" as the first place. You could try using "_$", maybe... what's the language/framework?

this seems way too sketchy... shady at least haha Here in Brazil people say Java is the most used one, commercially (is that a word?), followed closely by C.

Told you back in the other post but I'll say it again: Don't know everyone else's thoughts but mine is IM SOLD AND ALL ABOARD THE HYPETRAIN1!!1 CHOO CHOO I'm learning to code (college program[it works very differently than in USA but it's a college degree]), and I intend to go for web developing, that means I don't need a whole lot of computing power (as I said before I got a chromebook for all the portability and battery life, plus I just need chrome and a text editor), I don't game (I have an almost 2 yo daughter which I intend to spend most of my free time with), I don't intend doing any video editing. I'm basically their target audience... plus I'd love to make some linux ARM native software if I ever get the chance...

I haven't bought a laptop with windows from a loooong time. I guess I just did once, but back then it wasn't a problem. Young stupid me didn't know about the penguin master race.

Wait what? We can return the oem license? Are you serious? How in the hell we do that? Most of laptops here in brazil comes with this piece of bloatware they call windows except from some rarities... that means I could get a freakin refund???

I'm eager to see the laptop cpu battle hahahaha We're the only winners *shrugs*

@ILoveZed the macbook is fairly underspec'd in comparison to the xps you've showed There might be better options in the middle. I think all of this money on a mac with an i5 could be given in another less expensive brand, but you'll surely survive college with a mac I couldn't see exactly what i5 was that but ressearch on intel's ark if it's one of the i5 dual cores. I would suggest a quadcore i5, like these ones from 8th generation if possible Or you could go even lower and try to survive with an i3 (they're mostly dual cores also but come in cheaper laptops) I see laptops as almost disposable tools, since it will probably be kinda bad in 2-3 years, but each one has its own mindset

Well, I'm adept of the MVP way of thinking, so the Minimum Viable Product is the optimal for me, but that's just personal. If you really want a mac, and if it's cheaper than a XPS (which I find very weird), you'll be able to code. You may have some issues messing with servers configurations, but you'll probably outlive it all. Is this mac used? Is it in good condition? What country is this? How does this currency translates to U$D?

If you're asking this question then the answer is: Mac will do no good for you. Want a safe bet? Get a Winderp... sorry... Windows laptop that can run a VM with Linux on it and you'll be good to go. You'll have to test the programs you'll be making on the final environment (don't know if it makes sense, english is not my first language but whatever). If you write an application in C (good old C, they'll probably teach it in this program) you'll have to compile it to the architecture you'll use. Since most users go with Windows you might as well do the same. Or you can ressearch about Linux and enter the penguin side and run a VM for Windows testing. Since W10 license is paid the first option might be the best, if you get to buy a laptop with a license strapped in.

Where's OP? Wanna see where this goes.

I was actually talking about desktops. But yeah, it can happen in Linux, but way less frequently, but mostly because of the small user base. So windows itself uses an API for everything the user does? (that's a legitimate question, I don't know the answer)

I guess the real problem is that the windows user base is MASSIVE, so the crackers go where people are. I think it's much harder to crack some LFS build and it would hit waaaay less people, that's why winderp will always be the champion in threats. If I remember correctly the user doesn't give the computer direct instructions on windows... maybe it's managed by some piece of software (it was a while ago one of my professor said it and I can't recall it correctly to search on the interwebs, maybe it was "library manager" idk), so that means an attacker would have to take control of this manager to access everything, while on Linux you use mostly the terminal for direct (abstract) commands (because most of us are not fluent in machine language) and for admin/root privileges you have to type your password all the time.

To kick things off: You should consider Linux, I'd say even more if you slap a SSD after the purchase, since you'd need to buy a license to get Winderp working properly on the new drive (or crack it, which I do not recommend). And second: for web development you will not need a gaming computer, I tell you right away, and you don't need a whole lot of processing power either. Gaming laptops will be good for gaming and professionals who use specific programs, the graphically intensive ones, not for web devs. I'd suggest you search more about the applications you intend to do. If I'm correct (I'm learning web development also), you'll need enough RAM to run (probably) VSCode (or Sublime, or even Atom) flawlessly with lots of tabs open for all the good stuff (scripts, css, html). And another important point: the dGPU will drain the battery life, so you lose a lot with this option. If you consider UX (and boi you should) your applications must run ok on low-end computers and mobile (which is on where most of users are), so you shouldn't do graphically intensive websites nowadays. If you want to game on a laptop you should stop lying to yourself about a gaming laptop for web developing (hahah) Since laptops are not as sturdy as desktops I'd suggest you go way lower on your dream specs, a quad core with 8 GB or even 16 GB would carry you on for long enough.

Sad news I guess... Not for windows, that's stupid bloatware. At least there's linux apps support... Hope they revive it somehow, would be nice running manjaro flawlessly on one of these

It's easier then. Manjaro is a rolling release distro, that means you won't have to manually upgrade it when they launch a new version, and the AUR (arch user's repository if I'm correct) is amazing and well documented. Ubuntu has a big user base, it's probably the one people mention the most on troubleshooting in the interwebz, and many distros are based on that: Pop!_OS (the one I'm using right now - 19.04), Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Elementary OS, so you'll benefit from it. And there's Mint, which people say it's the closest to windows (what kept me away from it) and Fedora, which has a pretty active community. Search on these 4 (or 8 if you count the Ubuntu based) to see what fits you the most and you're good to go.

Come on OP, what do you need in your computer? Do you code? Game? Content production? CAD? Let us help you, my boi.

We probably missed the point. To someone coming from Windows, being this the first attempt at searching distros we should've seen it coming. He probably wanted a middle ground between a macosx and windows, but we gotta say it @Sychic : When it comes to Linux minimalism is not GUI, you probably meant "clean and sleek", and by that we could have told you: manjaro xfce (or kde if you want something more modern looking), mint, maybe even Pop!_OS (19.04) or Ubuntu (19.04). Since you went with elementary you will feed on the Ubuntu repositories, so the change to the last two distros wouldn't be so dramatic. And keep in mind that Distro Hopping is kind of a productivity killer, there's no such thing as the perfect distro, there's just the ones that fit your needs and the ones that don't.

Oh boy I laughed hard at this. Buckle up @Sychic cause if you choose Arch you're in for a hell of a ride hahahahha

I wouldn't recommend a "K" cpu for someone not looking for overclock Be mindful of the 9400F, it'll just suit you if you use a GPU

I think the whole idea behind these "F" chips is for intel to make its way with GPUs, so , maybe performance wasn't their main goal when launching the 9400F, I see it more as a test. 2600 tho is AMD's way to tackle the i5 in a meaningful way, considering the huge performance gap back in the FX series. So AMD is aiming at intel and high performance, while intel is sliding out refreshes while they develop their GPU. I find it hard to see AMD as the top dog in a near future scenario, as much as I'd want to... and I don't have all that hope that Navi will put them up against nvidia's monster cards... I love AMD, been using intel for a long time but just because I'm saving up for that R7 in the near future (bought my old pc in 2013 [i3 3240 which is still ok at the tasks I do{ones that are not playin recent games} with a r7 370)]

Pop!_OS Because it's damn easy to install and navigate and has either intel/amd or nvidia iso options, so yeah, plus System 76's page for the OS is awesomely beautiful... and it's a beautiful desktop environment.

At least windows for sure... I guess... maybe...