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"Someone disagrees with me, therefore they're a fanboy" - Classic Prysin... Ignoring the fact that in this very thread I was talking about all Nvidia's shady marketing practices... Literally every thing you say is either defending AMD, or bashing Nvidia.... So... Yes, that's how you justify it? Just because people can't be perfectly objective doesn't mean that they can't strive to be as objective as possible... Clearly, based on this quote, your stance is "well, you can't be perfectly objective, so why try to be objective to any degree?". Why didn't you open with this? Obviously I was never going to accept "he is because I'm saying he is" as a valid argument... I don't think a statement could speak more to your level of maturity than this one... -
So your argument is "I don't know nearly as much as him, but I can tell he's a fanboy"? Mmmmmk.... Seems more likely to me that he disagreed with your AMD loving ways, so you concluded that he was a fanboy... and you were just losing the argument because he knew more. Some more than others... clearly... Is that your rational behind being biased? "No one can be COMPLETELY unbiased, therefore I'm free to be as biased as I want..."
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Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some people form opinions based on facts? Rather than deciding their favorite company, and arguing using pure confirmation bias like some people....
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So you're suggesting that they got leaked information, which ended up being correct, but then decided to tack on a random graph of their own? Seems likely... /s
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But Patrick... You can't say that... You're an nVIDIA fanboy.. /s
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The source is literally watermarked on it.... http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480
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I see. I must have misunderstood what Intel was doing.
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If you're saying the image you posted earlier was a slide that was shown during the event, you are incorrect.
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This is another gem... Check out that scale on the bottom..
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Clearly I wasn't referencing that piece of marketing material.... It was the stuff during the announcement press conference, when they kept saying that the 1080 was twice as fast as 980s in SLI... And only after the conference did they specify that they meant in VR.
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I specifically said I didn't follow the point you were trying to make with that.... I was asking for clarification..
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I don't care.. I'm just saying it's ironic that NVIDIA is throwing a big stink about Intel doing this, when they employ very similar tactics...
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Sorry. I don't follow ... Are you noting that it shows a Paragon background, but none of the performance benchmarks are based on Paragon?
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Seems rather ironic that NVIDIA is accusing someone of shady marketing techniques.... GTX 1080FASTER THAN TWO 980s in SLI in VR
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They did. It's fine now. And I imagine most people are buying AIB cards anways... The problem is the reference version is not sold within PCIe spec (i.e. out of the box)... Which is why they revoked the certification.
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The only problem I can see coming from this is trying to RMA your motherboard. While it's super unlikely, I wonder if the motherboard manufacturer could refuse your RMA, claiming you voided the warranty by using a non PCIe certified GPU.
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For the love of god, stop naming different cards the same thing! These are some shady business practices from Nvidia... Not that we should be surprised after the gem that was the 1060 vs 480 performance chart shown at launch. Also, I'm not about to jump in on the "is 3GB VRAM enough" debate, since I really haven't done enough research on the topic... But... to all those simply looking at VRAM usage on cards that have more VRAM, that is not a valid test. If your GPU has more memory, the GPU will use more memory than the minimum needed to keep it from becoming a bottleneck. Your GPU will keep data they need for other parts of the game loaded so they don't have to load it again later. If your card is running out of VRAM, it will more aggressively clear data it doesn't need. Best way to test it is to see if there are significant scaling differences between resolutions on the same settings. For example, if running at 720p you're getting 200fps, and then running at 1080p you're getting 30fps... There's definitely a bottleneck.
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From what I read about the study, they didn't prove any kind of causality. This means they're not sure whether playing video games makes you smarter, or if smarter people are just more inclined to play video games.
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I'm not convinced that the extra money they got from additional people buying the game due to not finding a cracked version would be enough to cover the development costs of the DRM. Look at The Witcher 3 sales... Great regardless of the fact that it had no DRM. The war against piracy now seems more like a war based on spite, rather than sound business decisions.
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An update for anyone who cares: Got my Titan XP today. I've only had an hour and a half (ish) to play around with it and overclock. On the air cooler I've managed to get the card to run ~2000Mhz with the following settings: +0 Core Voltage 120% Power Limit 90C Temp Limit +215 Core Clock +0 Memory Clock 90% Fan Speed Ran through two runs on Unigine Valley without any crashes or artifacts. Used MSI Afterburner to monitor, and fequency hovered within 25MHz of 2GHz on either side. Maybe I'm just easy to please, but I'm pretty blown away by these speeds with no messing with the core voltage, and using the same air cooler as the 1080 FE. Can't wait to put a water block on this thing.
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Move along.. No bias to see here... Man, if we were to go buy only your posts... AMD has never done any wrong, and everything Nvidia has done is complete shit. At least try to hide your unwavering bias towards AMD a little bit...
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My hope is that the lower clock speeds are coming from thermal limitations (same cooler as the 1080, way more cores). If a water block is thrown on it removing any thermal limitations, it might get close to matching the 1080 clock for clock. If that were your use case for your next GPU, it may make the price/performance acceptable (factoring in diminishing returns at the high end). I bought one today, fully prepared to look like an idiot for buying one, and will let you all know how it turns out once I get a water block on it. FOR SCIENCE!
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What are you talking about? 480->580 = 20-30% performance increase 480->580 = 20-30% performance increase 580->780 = 20-30% performance increase 780->980 = 20-30% performance increase When they added the Titan just before the 780, it had zero effect on the relative performance you were getting with the x80 series for that generation. To say "the x60ti series is now called the x80 series" is factually incorrect. 980->1080 = 60% performance increase (price increase justification shown in my last post) If anything, it's the opposite when you include the 10 series... the relative performance for the generation is actually higher than ever before. It has shifted the market x80 market segment up, not down.
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From the GTX 480 ($500 in 2010), to the GTX 980 ($550 in 2014), the price in real dollars has stayed nearly the same (adjusted for inflation). If a product in 2010 cost $500, inflation would cause it to cost $542 in 2014, and $552 today (2016) The only outlier is the 780, which was priced $650 at launch. I believe that was later dropped to a more reasonable price. The 1080 saw a much larger performance jump than the normal generational improvement, so it commanded a higher price... If you expect a 30% increase in performance for $550 (1.3), but you actually get a performance increase of 60% (1.6), then that's an extra 23% performance over the normal generational improvement (1.6/1.3). Therefore it is safe to say anything less than $682 ($550 * 1.24) is not really in excess of the GPU price that should be expected that generation. It doesn't matter if it is the highers tier chip, or the full version of that chip... The relative price per dollar you're getting has stayed the same since the launch of the 480. Not sure where people are getting this "The cost of GPUs has gone WAY up!" from...
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