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Ah ok thanks

That's the main reasons why, they're cheap. Those higher clocked chips are too expensive for my budget, though the e5 2637 v3 could work. But would that be a meaningful upgrade over my current i5-7500? Plus the cores give me flexibility to do other things later down the line like more VMs (e.g. reserver 2 cores soley for a web server, unless that's stupid to do) or video rendering/transcoding? I think at the minimum I need to leave 2 cores for TrueNas?

@jaslionI am a little confused by "has always been a lower quality"? Is this in terms of the visual quality of the footage exported? Or something else?

Ok so have been watching the replies come in, a little confused now. I understand the 5700G means giving up PCIE4, but that's not particularly important to me as I don't intend to buy a NVMe drive anytime soon, and I think PCIE3 is fine for 4K video? Or perhaps even 5 simultenous HD streams for a multicam (what I am currently working on)? Should I just go for which has a cheaper price overall? I don't want to buy the AMD and then get home and have longer exports than my i5 7500 because I lose QuickSync?

If you want something janky/temporary, surely it's possible to plug the drive into one PC, setup a networking share on that PC pointing to the external drive then mount the share on the other? Broadly the way I'd apporach it at a high-level (no experience on settting up shares on Linux, and even then I've only ever tried something like this once): Plug drive into Windows Make sure SMB is on Use Windows' share menu on the external drive to create a SMB share Mount said share on the Linux machine Now both can access the drive! You can porbably do this the other way round (and probably get more options to do it), but I've never done that before and don't want to provide bad advice. (though, a NAS as @FloRolfsaid would be the much better long-term solution but you can do this if it's temporary)

Brought my first DIY PC 2 months before 1st Gen Ryzen. Could have really done with the extra cores/threads (would have got the 1600X over my i5-7500)

Hi all, I'm trying to decide what (used) processor I should get for my Home NAS. I'm narrowed down my choice to the Ryzen 5 2600 (6C, 12T) or a Intel Xeon V2 E5-2680 V2 (10C/20T) For the moment I've decided on the 2600, but I am unsure if I have got the balence of single-threaded performance (which the Ryzen is good for) vs multi-threaded performance (which the Xeon is beter for) correct given my uses (see below) Both seem to be roughly the same price to get at the moment on ebay. I intent to hopefully sell my current CPU (which I am upgrading), a i5-7500 in a ASUS PRIME Z270-A, for near £80 CPU and £110 Motherboard (based on Ebay sold prices). I'm willing to spend up to £50 extra on top of that. Budget (including currency): ~£240 (£190 + £50) Country: UK Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Home (5 person family) TrueNAS, used for: Storage and backup, 8TB total accross 3x 4TB drives in RAIDZ Plex media server, streaming content up to 4K HDR, mostly to a 4K HDR 10+ TV (The above 2 are my primary uses) Running some docker containers, just some lightweight servers for use at home such as downloading music. Might run PiHole on it, don't know yet Capacity to run a Node.Js server with a PostgreSQL and Redis as databases, for testing a system I am writing (will be accessed externally via port forwarding) I may in the future run 1 or 2 VMs - but nothing particularly heavy Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Parts list at the moment: CPU: Ryzen 2600/Xeon E5-2680 V2/other RAM: 16GB non-ECC (I don't think ECC is particularly important for my uses? If the motherboard I get happens to support it, I will get used ECC RAM) GPU: GT 1030 Motherboard: B450/550 for Ryzen (whatever is cheapest when I buy and has the features I need); whatever I can get for Xeon. Needs at least 2x M.2 NVMe in case i want to add SSDs in the future and of course enough SATA connectors. PSU: EVGA G3 550W 80+ Gold Storage: 3x 4TB HDD in RAIDZ1 (ZFS), 250GB Boot SSD Networking: 2.5Gb NIC to my main PC, 1Gb to router Case: my old computer case NB: If I can, I'd probably prefer a V3/V4 over a V2, but that still leaves the same problem of whether single-threaded performance vs multi-threaded performance. X99/compatible motherboards are also quite expensive. Is my choice of the 2600 the better option? Or should I go for the Xeon E5-2680 V2? I'm open to suggestions of other CPUs, provided they beat my i5-7500 which is what I would use instead.

I'm thinking of upgrading my computer from a i5 7500 (4C/4T), and was wondering whether to get the 5700G or 11700K as they're roughly the same price at the moment (UK). I'm currently planning to go with a 5700G, but I am a little concerned about the impact of not having intel QuickSync available (I do not have a discrete GPU) vs the added performance from AMD's APU. I'm finding it difficult to research this comparsion, so I've come here. My uses are: Video editing in Adobe Premiere Pro (which has for a while now supported QuickSync hardware acceleration and seems to have added Hardware Acceleration for other GPU recently for rendering?) and sometimes DaVinci Resolve. This is mostly dealing with 1080p timelines with "Essential Audio" applied and Lumetri Colour. The footage on these 1080p timelines is generally 4K in the H.264 format Occasional After Effects user (1080p primarily) Programming, but mostly in Node.js so program compile performance is not really important to me School work Internet browsing, watching YouTube, etc (all the normal computer uses) My concern with picking the 5700G over the 11700K is the loss of QuickSync, and I'm unsure how this will affect performance in Premiere Pro & when exporting - particularly since I can't tell if Pr supports Hardware Acceleration for the AMD APU? Finding comparsions between the 5700G, the 11700K and the impact of QuickSync online is proving difficult, though it seems like the 5700G is at least better than 10700K. (NB: The 5800X would be a nice pick, but then I'd also have to spend extra on a used GPU making it too expensive. Hopefully when my friend gets a 3080 I can buy his 2060, but that's might not happen for a while so I'm assuming I won't have a discrete GPU anytime soon) Which CPU should I go with? Feel free to suggest a complete alternative.

Order placed Been waiting for this for a while (missed the last drop as was moving house and didn't know how large my desk would be!)

Wow! Thanks, that loads of information and very informative - I appreciate it! Unfortunately I have now brought the monitor - but you'll be happy to know I brought the ASUS PA278QV (though had to wait nearly 2 months for it to ship because "Brexit" (major regulations & import changes) according to the retailer). The ASUS PA278QV is really good and I really like -besides from the good panel & 75Hz, I really like the ergernomics. Plugging in USB is easy, the stamd is really nice and I love portrait mode (I refer to it as God Mode text browsing). It sounds you'll need a colour calibrator BTW. I don't know a whole lot about proper colour accruate work (very little), but I've heard you still need to calibrate once a month (even with factory calibration) and also need a probe and some sort of OS-bypassing direct to monitor output device? (don't take my word for it). I've found 75Hz is generally not noticable smoother than 60Hz (just from waving mouse around), but it is there. Also be warned: Windows can be weird with different sized and different resolution monitors. I use the 27" 1440p PA278QV with a 1080p 24" monitor, and Windows seems to think the 1080p one is smaller than it actually is, which means the cursor doesn't exactly line up at the top and bottom of the screen when the cursor crosses from one monitor to the other.

In my system I have 2x8GB of Corsair Vengeance 2400 MHz, and 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200 MHz (same CAS latency I think). They run fine together (using the 2400 MHz XMP profile), but when I attempted to overclock the 2400 MHz to 3200 MHz the system just wouldn't boot - but this could be because I was overclocking wrong (I just went and typed in "3200" into the box for memory speed). MoBo is ASUS Z270-A.

@ProjectBox153 @WikiForceThank you! I will therefore be buying the 1440p monitor!

I see, thanks!

Where do we actually go after 3 nm? 1nm? Start bringing out the decimal point? Or are we looking at beyond silicon CPUs? Could this possible means we might get say 4 years of year-on-year performance improvements, then stagnation all over again as beyond silicon CPUs are developed and scaled?

Follow up from a recent post (which got no responses, probably because I put in too much information). I am looking to buy a 27 inch monitor and was wondering if the experience would be better with a 4K or 1440p monitor (whichever one is better will be the factor in determining which monitor I buy). It is important to note that I am currently using a 24 inch 1080p monitor, which I will continue to use as a 2nd monitor alongside the new one. I sit ~70-80cm away from my computer screen. Uses: Programming (Visual Studio Code) Video editing & basic graphics making (namely (print) posters for charity events) Typing up documents Browsing the web & watching YouTube I do not game I'm concerned about this because I've heard that at 4K at 27 inches display scaling is required, and Windows display scaling (apparently) isn't that great. I'm looking to buy a new monitor primarily for more screen real estate, which I think means 150% scaling at the most - which I am also scared will mean I won't gain any more space. It's hard for me to gauge which is better because I don't have access to a 4K/1440p monitor, hence why I have decided to create a post here. Given the above, is a 1440p or 4K 27 inch monitor better for my uses? Feel free to ask if more information is needed. Thanks in advance! (and I hope everyone has a nice weekend!) (I also apologise if anything I have done is against the rules!)