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Hell no. $250 for a jacket?? Even Bag was a stretch for me, but I still bought it in a day. can't justify jacket at that price point.
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14 hours ago, manikyath said:
i only pay "15 cents per kwh", but that means nothing if i also pay "25 cents per kwh in additional fees". so when you're looking at the pricing.. make sure you're looking at bills, not billboards.
1 hour ago, Needfuldoer said:This! Take the final price on the bill, subtract fixed subscriber costs, then divide that by how many kilowatt-hours you consumed.
iDRAC on the server will log its power consumption, but a Kill-a-Watt meter is a useful tool as well.
I don't have any shady thing going on, so that's good. Only about 10% tax on total kWh usage x 0.1438.
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5 hours ago, manikyath said:
that's a KILLER price.. i pay like 40-ish cents, if it's not more.
Wow that’s rough. My teammates were quoting like 8-9 cents for their houses so I was thinking I’m paying more in apartment.
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5 hours ago, manikyath said:
i wrote a reply last night but it got eaten by bad timing when the threads got merged.. i'll paraphrase this.
assuming that you can push costs down to 500 bucks, and assuming you can cut 80 watts off your average power cost (which i deem a very generous estimate), you're looking at a return on investment of 1.5 years if you're in hawaii, up to a return on investment of over 6 years of you're in some areas of the midwest. this assumes that the heat output of the server doesnt contribute to house heating at all. (like it does for me. every watt my server draws is a watt electric heating i need less for 75% of the year.)
if you're doing this just for the sake of saving on the power bill, you'd have to be in a very expensive area, or just have terrible rates from your provider. there's just too big of a gap between the cost of a decent enough upgrade and the cost savings that will bring, unless you're looking at a very long term.
Yeah makes sense. My current rate is $0.1438/kWh in my apartment. Yeah it's bad compared to many places.
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3 hours ago, manikyath said:
since you have 32GB RAM and a GPU in this thing, i'm assuming you have some sort of particular workload on this thing. mind ellaborating on that a bit?
So these are the containers which are always on. And I have two VMs that I use infrequently, windows one to run specific software that doesn't run my m1 mac, and another linux VM to play around with.
I have 96GB ddr3 in my server rn, looking at my RAM usage in unraid with all containers on, it's using about 12GB, before the cache usage, after which about ~2GB is free.3 hours ago, manikyath said:beyond that, how important is PCIe expansion?
Not much, that's why I chose motherboard with 8ish sata ports and 2.5G, won't be extending anything like that PCIe. It will only be used for up to 2 GPU if I decide that.
3 hours ago, manikyath said:something else to add is that between $100 for RAM, $100-ish for PSU and $150-ish for a case, there really arent many costs to cut anyore.. because we're literally looking at 150 bucks for cpu and motherboard.
Yeah that's a good point. I will be selling my R720 anyway if I do upgrade, so I will be getting back about ~$300ish I think, so i don't mind spending more necessarily, I was just planning on staying around $500. I can also just sell the A770 if I don't see the need for it, I haven't used it yet, it's still packed new.
3 hours ago, manikyath said:something to consider, for example, is going with an (older) platform that supports whatever RAM is already in your server (which i presume is also 32GB).
It's 96GB DDR3 ECC.
3 hours ago, manikyath said:also - out of curiousity, what is your power draw, and where are you hoping to end up?
About ~150W before any plex streams happens, and about 180W with 3-4 plex stream remote transcode.
I supposed with newer efficient chips, better fan etc it should drop by at least half of that if not more.
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2 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:
Id also measure power without drives and cards on the r720. That power difference will also apply to the new system. Often much of the idle power on these systems is drives and cards, and not the CPU and mobo. Also only use one PSU if you have 2. That will save a bit of power.
Yeah I have two 750W PSU in that thing. I think the biggest contributer outside the main hardware use are those fans in R720, quite loud and running at high speed, but since it stays in my big closet(open), I don't want to lower it to increase the temp in there.
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So my current SSD is SATA and it's quite old now so wanted to upgrade to M.2.
I run a lot of docker containers via UnRaid and also thinking of running Windows VM so that's why I went more RAM, but yeah I could get the two 16GB dimms.
I will continue using the Quadro M2000 for plex needs, should have clarified it more. A770 will be used for the VMs.
i3 does look like a good product, but even 12400 is 60W only, so wasn't overly worried about that.
Main reason for upgrading is my R720, chugs ~150W with my dockers running and no transcode happening. Gets up around ~$180 with couple of plex streams. -
Budget (including currency): ~$500
Country: US
Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly as UnRaid server, plex main use. Might create couple of VMs.
Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Current details below
So currently, I have Dell R720 as my server, and I have 5x12 TB HDD (1 parity), 1x1 TB SSD for cache and Quadro M2000.
The power draw is too much so thinking of upgrading it to make it more efficient.
This is what I chose, please suggest any changes, make it cheaper? Hoping to get it under $500. I already have A770 so it's $0.
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So currently, I have Dell R720 as my server, and I have 5x12 TB HDD, 1x1 TB SSD for cache and Quadro M2000, and I run UnRaid on it.
The power draw is too much so thinking of upgrading it to make it more efficient.
This is what I chose, please suggest any changes, make it cheaper? Hoping to get it under $500. I already have A770 so it's $0.
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Summary
Here are two HUGE new points Arm wants to do from 2025 onwards:
• Arm will end TLAs (technology license agreements) with SoC vendors and go straight to OEMs. i.e. Sony will pay for the Arm license instead of Qualcomm
• Arm will ban custom GPUs, custom NPUs, and custom ISPs if the SoC uses stock cores. i.e. no more Samsung’s Xclipse RDNA GPUs/AI Engine, Google’s Tensor NPU/ISP, MediaTek’s APU, HiSilicon’s Da Vinci NPU, Unisoc’s VDSP, … if stock Arm CPU cores are used.Arm is essentially doing what regulators feared Nvidia-owned Arm would do
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QuoteQualcomm claims that Arm is telling the OEMs that semiconductor manufacturers will not be able to provide other elements of their Arm-based SOCs that Arm also offers as a licensed product. This includes GPUs, NPUs, and ISP. It seems that Arm is effectively bundling its other IP with the CPU IP in a take-it-or-leave-it model. That would mean Samsung’s licensing deal with AMD for GPU or MediaTek with Imagination GPU is no longer allowed after 2024. Furthermore, none of these firms could use their in-house ISP or NPU despite it being far superior to Arm's.
My thoughts
I understand that ARM doesn’t make much money unlike their customers, but this is such a bad move, this feels like threats. I feel like, having lost that NVIDIA money, Softbank just want to squeeze as much money as they can get from Arm customers.
Supposedly, Nvidia already has 20 year agreement for special use case, so they are not impacted but everyone else are like Samsung, Qualcomm, Mediatek, Google etc.
Sources
https://www.semianalysis.com/p/arm-changes-business-model-oem-partners
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I'd pick up A380 for my Unraid server, but it seems linux drivers are only in kernel 6 onwards.
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When restricted to a 65 W base power, Intel says that the improvements to Raptor Lake will allow the chips to run multi-threaded workloads just as quickly as a Core i9-12900K running at 241 W.
if that line from Ars article is true, that would be amazing.
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Summary
Intel is officially announcing pricing for its top Arc graphics card today. The top-of-the-line Arc A770 will arrive on October 12th, starting at $329. This price matches that of Nvidia’s RTX 3060, a card that the A770 is expected to comfortably outperform.
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Quote“We’ve been seeing that for a long time the price of GPUs is right in this $200–$300 range, but what’s happened in the last few years is that they’ve gotten super expensive,” says Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger. “You should be frustrated because you are losing out as the gaming community, and today we’re fixing that.”
My thoughts
I think that's a great price to launch it at. Though, I hope they have enough inventory to actually make any difference. I personally would have bought it to try but I bought 3070 Ti is out of the return window.
Sources
https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/27/23374988/intel-arc-a770-price-release-date
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@RONOTHAN## @LIGISTX Resolved! I was only touching the two power connectors with screwdriver and removing it as soon as fan spun. I kept touching it until it restarted 1-2 times. Now it's working great.
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Hi,
I'm building my first computer and I'm trying it via test bench just to make sure everything works but it's turning off immediately in 3-4 seconds as fans spin.
Motherboard, cpu, gpu all are connected to psu. Confirmed it.
I don't have case yet so I'm power jumping it to start.
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Alright thanks. Will change order accordingly. @Somerandomtechyboi @Queen Chrysalis @Dukesilver27-
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Sounds good. Chose Samsung because of its reputation in SSD field. Honestly don't mind $50-100 here there.
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Budget (including currency): $1400
Country: US
Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly gaming, some coding practice etc
Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):
PCpartpicker link: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wgmKNc
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13 hours ago, Needfuldoer said:
R720s come in a few versions:
Eight 3.5" bays
Twelve 3.5" bays (R720xd)
Eight 2.5" bays
Sixteen 2.5" bays
Twenty-four 2.5" bays (R720xd)
The R720xd has an optional rear flex bay that accepts an additional two 2.5" drives, good for a boot mirror. Not all of them came with it, but they'll all take an upgrade kit to add it. (You can't add this to the regular R720, the metal chassis is different. If you want removable drive bays in the back of one of those, you'll have to go for the kind that mount in a PCI slot. I also know there's enough room next to the optical drive above the drive bays to cram an SSD in a regular R720, you just have to get a different power cable to feed it. That way you don't have to sacrifice a drive bay or the optical drive for boot media.)
If you plan on running TrueNAS or Proxmox, you'll want to flash the Dell PERC RAID card to LSI's IT mode firmware. This will give ZFS more direct access to the drives.
Yes, I think I found a good deal on R720. 2x E5 2660 V2 with 64GB ram and H710 card, comes with 8 bay 3.5", 2 750W PSU. For about $350, is that a good deal?
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7 hours ago, Bluebull said:
You can get servers cheaper than that. I got a R720 2x E5-2650v2 @ 2.6GHz 64GB 8x 3.5" SATA + RAID for like $220
Dang that's a great deal. I do want at least 6 SATA connections so will look around.
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Any specific brand do you have in mind?
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Hi, I am thinking of building my first homelab server. It will be used as media server, pihole, and few VMs to practice. This is what I found on ebay. Was wondering if this is a good hardware deal? I will likely populate it with multiple WD Ultrastar DC HC550 16TB. Would this be a good hardware for my usecase? I will most likely install unraid so I can later add this harddrives as needed. Thanks!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284676372507?hash=item424808b81b:g:8kgAAOSwFxBiHjA5
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12 minutes ago, Jonathan Lee said:
Linus actually did a video comparing different SI's you can take a look at it as well. Be aware that there's 4 parts to it.
Haha actually I know about both series. Issue is with not finding good deals on GPU right now. I can go ahead and build everything else for now and wait for a deal on GPU or just by prebuilt from somewhere.
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11 minutes ago, Jonathan Lee said:
It's worth considering, you can check newegg's ABS prebuilts. They have some with good deals. Don't go with Dell though; all their parts are typically proprietary and won't be upgradeable in the future. There are also lots of weird behaviors with them, as well as a poor thermal solution (hot box PC). And probably the worst customer service in the world.
Alright, I will think over my options. Thanks.
Ex-Ubiquiti engineer behind “breathtaking” data theft gets 6-year prison term
in Tech News
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Summary
An ex-Ubiquiti engineer, Nickolas Sharp, was sentenced to six years in prison yesterday after pleading guilty in a New York court to stealing tens of gigabytes of confidential data, demanding a $1.9 million ransom from his former employer, and then publishing the data publicly when his demands were refused.
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My thoughts
This was coming for him. More than this, he even tried to feed this fake breach info to Krebs on Security who wrote multiple articles defaming Ubiquiti causing their stock to tumble as per their own words. I remember this was discussed last year in WAN show when this came out, so I hope we get to see final thoughts of Linus and Luke on WAN show on this final news.
Sources
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/ex-ubiquiti-engineer-behind-breathtaking-data-theft-gets-6-year-prison-term/