MyNameWontFi

At this point, I'm honestly stunned of how many people have lost sight of the issue at hand, making the issue about Linus vs. Steve, GN jealously, or solely fixating on the Billet issue.
 
While the Billet issue is probably one that encapsulates many of the issues at LMG currently, the main issue and Steve's main point in his video (which he re-asserted in his 2nd video) is that LTT's quality has been slipping for the past year. This issue should be clear as day to anyone who watches LTT regularly, especially to anyone (like me) who has followed Linus since the NCIX days.
 
Saying that LTT is just an "entertainment channel" and claiming that everyone knows this is a BS excuse. Most of you here have probably blinded yourselves to that fact that this forum mostly consists of veteran viewers who likely have been with this channel on average for much longer than the majority of LTT's current subscriber and viewership base.
 
LTT has 15M subscribers now, with some videos having reach of 100M. If people want to seriously claim that the overwhelmingly majority of the 15M subscribers know LTT is simply a 'joke' entertainment channel and that none of the 100M+ non-subscribers viewing LTT are taking Linus's buying recommendations seriously... I don't know what to tell you.
 
And the defense of being an "entertainment channel" is honestly a complete joke:
Firstly, it has never been said LTT is a joke and there is no indication on any of the videos which to be treated seriously and which as 'simply entertainment'. Sure, "buyer beware" and that it's just the viewer for trusting bad information from LTT all you want, but this is a massive ethics problem to be knowingly publishing misleading information that can harm consumers. Linus should especially know this if he's going to accuse Steve on the basis of ethics. Secondly, that LTT is simply a 'joke channel' not to be treated seriously is refuted by Linus himself. What is the point of the massive investment into Labs and claiming to want rigorous, trustworthy data produced for the consumer? Was Linus simply joking? That Labs is still in-development and we should just treat the data being used from Labs carefully since their inclusion a few months ago is also non-sense. If Labs is not ready, don't use the data! It's that simple. You only get a few chances to establish credibility right. And the first steps you do are hire arrogant employees who feel safe to hand off-the-cuffs remarks accusing HUB/GN of being less rigorous than they are, while at the same time releasing obviously wrong data to be used in videos...?
 
Also, that some of you here seriously think Linus suing Steve/GN for libel is a good option moving forward is... simply flabbergasting. Even disregarding the merits (if any) of such a suit, do you not realize the PR suicide that kind of move would be? LTT would truly be finished if that was allowed to drag on for a year (yet ironically you all accuse GN of trying to take down LTT).
 
I'll end this post with these Reddit comments that I believe truly spell out the tragedy of the situation, and I hope @LinusTech or someone on his team takes the time to realize how this could have all been easily avoided. That this has turned into the massive PR disaster that it is currently is completely 100% on Linus's unhinged response. It could have been over on day one, with increased respect for LTT and an explanation/apology for the viewers for the awful, slipping quality of videos. Now, it's gone into the worst-case scenario, with even more allegations from others spilling out into the open. 
 
(Now, I truly feel for Linus and believe there can be non-malicious reasons for keeping the current video schedule, despite employee complaints and clearly slipping quality. There is probably no chance that Linus paid for his new assets (merch/labs buildings, testing equipment, etc.) in solely cash and the rising inflationary situation must have some effect on him, on top of all his existing expenses in salaries, merch, equipment, etc.
 
Yet, I cannot understand him when he claims the community is simply not paying attention of quality improvements when many only see the opposite. It's also funny to hear this from Linus who I believe has claimed in the past that he doesn't watch his own videos. It is more baffling that he chose to not waste an extra $500 to retest or take the time to craft a proper response to GN, which ignited this whole fiasco that may end up costing 5-6 digit figures. This is not an exaggeration: Floatplane subscribers have dropped by ~3,000 as of now. Assuming all of them were on the basic $5 plan, that's $15,000 gone (for the month) already) 

You seemed to have not watched the GN video. You should watch it.

That waterblock review from LTT is truly messed up and misleading and Linus should be ashamed of himself.
 
1) refused to return prototype at request of maker, maker incurs financial losses making the prototype they will not see again
 
2) sold prototype that could be reversed engineered and further damage the company if someone else manufactures it
 
3) knowingly torpedoed the start-up's name and reputation with the video about a 3090 Ti waterblock not working on a 4090 video card, which can hinder future sales. but also open up the avenue for the buyer of the prototype to resell a reverse engineered version under a new name while the billet name is sullied by the review.
 
 
Fuck up does not even begin to describe how horrid that situation is.
 

If the prototype is in the hands of a competitor right now, reimbursing them the cost of that prototype doesn't fix the problem. 

Regarding the whole Billet thing...it seems like the logistics and inventory team at LTT is....kinda terrible at their jobs?
 
1. Billet sends waterblock and 3090Ti, 3090Ti goes missing.
2. LTT is forced to shoot a video with a completely different GPU.
3. Billet asks for waterblock back, someone at LTT says they'll send it back, doesnt send it back.
4. Waterblock presumably gets misplaced, and someone mistakenly puts it up for auction.
5. Someone loses auction winner tracking sheet, forcing LTT to reach out auction winners by email.
 
Just seems like a lot of this could have been avoided if 3rd party product inventory were taken more seriously and properly itemized and tracked.

Am i crazy, or is there no where that says what cable is which? No links, etc?

Disclaimer: This guide is only for systems that use the LGA1155 socket. HP 6000 systems and other LGA775 systems are not compatible.
 
Hi, first I apologize for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, so i wanted to upgrade my HP pro 6300's power supply to something more powerful but the motherboard gets power from a weird p2 connector and a 6 pin connector instead of a standard 24 pin power connector. after doing a little bit of research, i managed to stick in an EVGA 500w PSU and everything is working fine so far, if anyone wants to know how i did it, here is what you need to do.
 
- buy a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter cable ( around $10) https://i.imgur.com/mAH1oTQ.jpg but they are made for z220/z230 workstations only. so, you'll have to easily change the pins layout of that white p2 connector for the adapter to work with your HP pro 6300. (this is the one I bought   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075242NGZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
 
- remove all 4 cables from that white p2 connector and compare the cables with the ones from your old PSU.
your old PSU will have 4 or 5 cables on that p2 connector ( grey, green, white, white with red stripes, and sometimes black) .
the adapter will have (yellow, green, red, black)
 
ok, then put the yellow cable back in where the grey one was and put the green one back in where the green one was and put the black one back in where the pure white one was. and put the red one exactly next to where you put the yellow one. 
 
ok now turn on your pc and that's it.
 
if you get an error on startup saying that the PSU fan is not detected, press F1 to ignore it and continue, but if you get tired of the error every time you start your pc and want to fix it, here is what to do.
 
remember the black cable you inserted where the pure white one was, that cable is a TAC cable, it sends the PSU fan speed readings to motherboard but since the new PSU's wiring is not the same as the old HP one, the motherboard has no clue. so, you'll need to cut that black cable from where the cable meets with the 24 pin connector thingy (just to get enough length of it) https://i.imgur.com/n3W9MG5.jpg and then you'll need to attach it to the green TAC cable of the CPU fan connector and this will trick the motherboard into thinking that the CPU fan it is sensing is the PSU fan and you won't get any errors. Good luck
https://i.imgur.com/63KGBe5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DRN6twk.jpg
Edit : The fan error stopped showing up after a few days or so without doing any modification (that fan error is probably set up to show up a certain number of times). 
 
Edit 2: Another option would be buying a dual SATA to 6 pin or 8 pin cable but it's not really recommended for anything above a GTX1060 cause these prebuilt PCs come with only 320W PSU, here's how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmsLxnCfrQ
 
Edit 3:  Here's a diagram of how exactly my adapter is wired https://imgur.com/20grXCC. For those that have differently colored adapters, you can still follow this diagram but you gotta check where your wires are going exactly.
 
 

Disclaimer: This guide is only for systems that use the LGA1155 socket. HP 6000 systems and other LGA775 systems are not compatible.
 
Hi, first I apologize for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, so i wanted to upgrade my HP pro 6300's power supply to something more powerful but the motherboard gets power from a weird p2 connector and a 6 pin connector instead of a standard 24 pin power connector. after doing a little bit of research, i managed to stick in an EVGA 500w PSU and everything is working fine so far, if anyone wants to know how i did it, here is what you need to do.
 
- buy a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter cable ( around $10) https://i.imgur.com/mAH1oTQ.jpg but they are made for z220/z230 workstations only. so, you'll have to easily change the pins layout of that white p2 connector for the adapter to work with your HP pro 6300. (this is the one I bought   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075242NGZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
 
- remove all 4 cables from that white p2 connector and compare the cables with the ones from your old PSU.
your old PSU will have 4 or 5 cables on that p2 connector ( grey, green, white, white with red stripes, and sometimes black) .
the adapter will have (yellow, green, red, black)
 
ok, then put the yellow cable back in where the grey one was and put the green one back in where the green one was and put the black one back in where the pure white one was. and put the red one exactly next to where you put the yellow one. 
 
ok now turn on your pc and that's it.
 
if you get an error on startup saying that the PSU fan is not detected, press F1 to ignore it and continue, but if you get tired of the error every time you start your pc and want to fix it, here is what to do.
 
remember the black cable you inserted where the pure white one was, that cable is a TAC cable, it sends the PSU fan speed readings to motherboard but since the new PSU's wiring is not the same as the old HP one, the motherboard has no clue. so, you'll need to cut that black cable from where the cable meets with the 24 pin connector thingy (just to get enough length of it) https://i.imgur.com/n3W9MG5.jpg and then you'll need to attach it to the green TAC cable of the CPU fan connector and this will trick the motherboard into thinking that the CPU fan it is sensing is the PSU fan and you won't get any errors. Good luck
https://i.imgur.com/63KGBe5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DRN6twk.jpg
Edit : The fan error stopped showing up after a few days or so without doing any modification (that fan error is probably set up to show up a certain number of times). 
 
Edit 2: Another option would be buying a dual SATA to 6 pin or 8 pin cable but it's not really recommended for anything above a GTX1060 cause these prebuilt PCs come with only 320W PSU, here's how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmsLxnCfrQ
 
Edit 3:  Here's a diagram of how exactly my adapter is wired https://imgur.com/20grXCC. For those that have differently colored adapters, you can still follow this diagram but you gotta check where your wires are going exactly.
 
 

No, you spot bottlenecks by comparing the usage of your hardware on the application.
 
I'm guessing you mean gaming? the i7 6700K at 4.6ghz will only marginally hold back the 1080 Ti on very specific CPU demanding titles. That is, if you're not trying to go crazy on multi-tasking while gaming.
 
Check your GPU usage it should be at 99% if you don't have a frame capper of some sort in place, if it isn't you're being bottlenecked by CPU/Memory likely.

Some months ago i modded my HP 6300 MT in order to upgrade the GPU. But I still hated to have a single fan (loud and hot) in 2019 so... I've found the right one: dual fan - right temperatures... the KFA2 1070 OC mini. It's a perfect fit with no mods needed on CPU cooler. A couple of pictures:

I noticed the CMT but figured it was just the MicroTower
 
BTW - I no longer get Chassis Fan Errors and have zero fan headers connected on the mobo.  Not sure why.  For the first week after doing my closed loop on it, it gave the error at boot up.  No longer does it.  Didn't have to put any dummy fan headers on it.

Tristerin is right but that only applies to HP 6300 MT owners. The HP 8300 CMT has enough room for any GPU, You're not really forced to buy a single fan GPU. https://youtu.be/fUbocXdrFfw?t=972.
You can upgrade your PSU and buy whatever GPU you want, but since you don't want to replace your 320W PSU, I would recommend buying something like a GTX 1660 or a GTX 1660Ti. Both outperform the GTX 1060 while consuming the same amount of power. I would buy a new PSU though if I were you, a 500W PSU can be found for around $40
 
 
 

Disclaimer: This guide is only for systems that use the LGA1155 socket. HP 6000 systems and other LGA775 systems are not compatible.
 
Hi, first I apologize for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, so i wanted to upgrade my HP pro 6300's power supply to something more powerful but the motherboard gets power from a weird p2 connector and a 6 pin connector instead of a standard 24 pin power connector. after doing a little bit of research, i managed to stick in an EVGA 500w PSU and everything is working fine so far, if anyone wants to know how i did it, here is what you need to do.
 
- buy a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter cable ( around $10) https://i.imgur.com/mAH1oTQ.jpg but they are made for z220/z230 workstations only. so, you'll have to easily change the pins layout of that white p2 connector for the adapter to work with your HP pro 6300. (this is the one I bought   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075242NGZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
 
- remove all 4 cables from that white p2 connector and compare the cables with the ones from your old PSU.
your old PSU will have 4 or 5 cables on that p2 connector ( grey, green, white, white with red stripes, and sometimes black) .
the adapter will have (yellow, green, red, black)
 
ok, then put the yellow cable back in where the grey one was and put the green one back in where the green one was and put the black one back in where the pure white one was. and put the red one exactly next to where you put the yellow one. 
 
ok now turn on your pc and that's it.
 
if you get an error on startup saying that the PSU fan is not detected, press F1 to ignore it and continue, but if you get tired of the error every time you start your pc and want to fix it, here is what to do.
 
remember the black cable you inserted where the pure white one was, that cable is a TAC cable, it sends the PSU fan speed readings to motherboard but since the new PSU's wiring is not the same as the old HP one, the motherboard has no clue. so, you'll need to cut that black cable from where the cable meets with the 24 pin connector thingy (just to get enough length of it) https://i.imgur.com/n3W9MG5.jpg and then you'll need to attach it to the green TAC cable of the CPU fan connector and this will trick the motherboard into thinking that the CPU fan it is sensing is the PSU fan and you won't get any errors. Good luck
https://i.imgur.com/63KGBe5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DRN6twk.jpg
Edit : The fan error stopped showing up after a few days or so without doing any modification (that fan error is probably set up to show up a certain number of times). 
 
Edit 2: Another option would be buying a dual SATA to 6 pin or 8 pin cable but it's not really recommended for anything above a GTX1060 cause these prebuilt PCs come with only 320W PSU, here's how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmsLxnCfrQ
 
Edit 3:  Here's a diagram of how exactly my adapter is wired https://imgur.com/20grXCC. For those that have differently colored adapters, you can still follow this diagram but you gotta check where your wires are going exactly.
 
 

Simply attaching a wire to the Chassis fan should not be giving you Chassis fan errors, as long as the fan is correctly plugged in. Are you sure the TACH cable is grey on your Haswell PC? I haven't dealt with that specific model, so things might be a little different, I don't know. Sending a few photos might help me better understand the situation. 

Yeah I messed up - I  spliced a wire into the (OEM white) tach wire on the P2 plug instead of replacing it, so it was still connected on the ATX 24pin adapter side.
I cut the (OEM white) tach wire at the 24 ATX adapter, ran it to the grey PWM fan connector (as you described) and it works now.
 
Thanks for your help, no more errors!
 

Ok, everything is good now. No more nagging F1. TYVM

@FPS god
WELL DONE - just finished putting together this turd for fun and this "post" took my red led no post, to reinstalling windows on this Frankenstein for fun.  Thank you!  HP Pro 6300 all I had to do was follow your Paint diagram...simple, straight forward and to the point!
 
 

Disclaimer: This guide is only for systems that use the LGA1155 socket. HP 6000 systems and other LGA775 systems are not compatible.
 
Hi, first I apologize for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, so i wanted to upgrade my HP pro 6300's power supply to something more powerful but the motherboard gets power from a weird p2 connector and a 6 pin connector instead of a standard 24 pin power connector. after doing a little bit of research, i managed to stick in an EVGA 500w PSU and everything is working fine so far, if anyone wants to know how i did it, here is what you need to do.
 
- buy a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter cable ( around $10) https://i.imgur.com/mAH1oTQ.jpg but they are made for z220/z230 workstations only. so, you'll have to easily change the pins layout of that white p2 connector for the adapter to work with your HP pro 6300. (this is the one I bought   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075242NGZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
 
- remove all 4 cables from that white p2 connector and compare the cables with the ones from your old PSU.
your old PSU will have 4 or 5 cables on that p2 connector ( grey, green, white, white with red stripes, and sometimes black) .
the adapter will have (yellow, green, red, black)
 
ok, then put the yellow cable back in where the grey one was and put the green one back in where the green one was and put the black one back in where the pure white one was. and put the red one exactly next to where you put the yellow one. 
 
ok now turn on your pc and that's it.
 
if you get an error on startup saying that the PSU fan is not detected, press F1 to ignore it and continue, but if you get tired of the error every time you start your pc and want to fix it, here is what to do.
 
remember the black cable you inserted where the pure white one was, that cable is a TAC cable, it sends the PSU fan speed readings to motherboard but since the new PSU's wiring is not the same as the old HP one, the motherboard has no clue. so, you'll need to cut that black cable from where the cable meets with the 24 pin connector thingy (just to get enough length of it) https://i.imgur.com/n3W9MG5.jpg and then you'll need to attach it to the green TAC cable of the CPU fan connector and this will trick the motherboard into thinking that the CPU fan it is sensing is the PSU fan and you won't get any errors. Good luck
https://i.imgur.com/63KGBe5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DRN6twk.jpg
Edit : The fan error stopped showing up after a few days or so without doing any modification (that fan error is probably set up to show up a certain number of times). 
 
Edit 2: Another option would be buying a dual SATA to 6 pin or 8 pin cable but it's not really recommended for anything above a GTX1060 cause these prebuilt PCs come with only 320W PSU, here's how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmsLxnCfrQ
 
Edit 3:  Here's a diagram of how exactly my adapter is wired https://imgur.com/20grXCC. For those that have differently colored adapters, you can still follow this diagram but you gotta check where your wires are going exactly.
 
 

i have to create an account and log in to say THANKS YOU

J'ai acheter celui-ci, https://www.amazon.fr/Xilence-XC032-I250PWM-Refroidisseur-PC/dp/B01L6QMLE4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1552854401&sr=8-1&keywords=xilence+i250+pwm
 
 
Mais merci beaucoup, je reçois la carte mère et le cooler Mercredi je vous tien au courant.

Other than a difference in color of wires used, my adapter is wired exactly the same. I will dig up another power supply and continue the experiment! - Thank you for the help!

I think that in this case, colors are just colors, the layout is what matters and you don't really need to mess with that 24-pin connector.  Follow this diagram https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2NXSMYUUD8YYB/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B06XW7RWNH .if it doesn't work try different configurations on that p2 connector. Do not worry about trying different configurations cause those cables on that p2 connector do not carry voltage to the motherboard. they are mostly ground and tac cables.
 
PSU: hello motherboard, I'm a PSU and everything is fine here, I think you should turn yourself on.
motherboard: Ok.
 

Disclaimer: This guide is only for systems that use the LGA1155 socket. HP 6000 systems and other LGA775 systems are not compatible.
 
Hi, first I apologize for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language, so i wanted to upgrade my HP pro 6300's power supply to something more powerful but the motherboard gets power from a weird p2 connector and a 6 pin connector instead of a standard 24 pin power connector. after doing a little bit of research, i managed to stick in an EVGA 500w PSU and everything is working fine so far, if anyone wants to know how i did it, here is what you need to do.
 
- buy a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter cable ( around $10) https://i.imgur.com/mAH1oTQ.jpg but they are made for z220/z230 workstations only. so, you'll have to easily change the pins layout of that white p2 connector for the adapter to work with your HP pro 6300. (this is the one I bought   https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B075242NGZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
 
- remove all 4 cables from that white p2 connector and compare the cables with the ones from your old PSU.
your old PSU will have 4 or 5 cables on that p2 connector ( grey, green, white, white with red stripes, and sometimes black) .
the adapter will have (yellow, green, red, black)
 
ok, then put the yellow cable back in where the grey one was and put the green one back in where the green one was and put the black one back in where the pure white one was. and put the red one exactly next to where you put the yellow one. 
 
ok now turn on your pc and that's it.
 
if you get an error on startup saying that the PSU fan is not detected, press F1 to ignore it and continue, but if you get tired of the error every time you start your pc and want to fix it, here is what to do.
 
remember the black cable you inserted where the pure white one was, that cable is a TAC cable, it sends the PSU fan speed readings to motherboard but since the new PSU's wiring is not the same as the old HP one, the motherboard has no clue. so, you'll need to cut that black cable from where the cable meets with the 24 pin connector thingy (just to get enough length of it) https://i.imgur.com/n3W9MG5.jpg and then you'll need to attach it to the green TAC cable of the CPU fan connector and this will trick the motherboard into thinking that the CPU fan it is sensing is the PSU fan and you won't get any errors. Good luck
https://i.imgur.com/63KGBe5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DRN6twk.jpg
Edit : The fan error stopped showing up after a few days or so without doing any modification (that fan error is probably set up to show up a certain number of times). 
 
Edit 2: Another option would be buying a dual SATA to 6 pin or 8 pin cable but it's not really recommended for anything above a GTX1060 cause these prebuilt PCs come with only 320W PSU, here's how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmsLxnCfrQ
 
Edit 3:  Here's a diagram of how exactly my adapter is wired https://imgur.com/20grXCC. For those that have differently colored adapters, you can still follow this diagram but you gotta check where your wires are going exactly.
 
 

In both of those videos that you've linked the cable isnt in the pin 1?!
In the first video you can even see a pinout diagram where the green cable is going to pin 3...

i put a picture online where you can see what is working, the only important thing is that the green cable is in pin 1, other than that i can do what i want or dont even put it in and the stuff is working

A normal length GPU (2 fan) cannot fit in there unless its SINGLE slot.  The CPU cooler will block this application.  I have the HP Pro 6300 MT completely modded the F out.  Best GPU you can put in it with the stock PSU (320w lite on) is a GTX 1060.  After that you have to upgrade PSU with the above cablemod.  If you replace the CPU cooler with an AIO (can put an asetek 92mm as intake, Im thinking of doing it for fun) or something that will give clearance than you can add the longer cards.