Commodore256

I said future crawlers, the already established ones might be super expensive to access the data.

I would like the ability to scrub my history from future web crawlers and AI

I would like the ability to scrub my history from future web crawlers and AI

I would like the ability to scrub my history from future web crawlers and AI

I'm hoping for copious amounts of fragmentation. Shatter the monopoly's.
Not referring to things like the "fediverse" or anything Mastodon-y either.
I mean litterally just going back to good old forums like this one.

SEO and megaplatforms like reddit destroyed the internet. It's not 2013 anymore, you almost can't find anything anymore.

I hope miniplatforms return, a lot of tech youtubers and not just LTT have forums, Hard OCP, OC3D, L1 Techs and a lot of stuff. It's tech centric because that's the audience that remember a viable internet outside of FAANG.

I secretly hope to see a return to forums.  Where only dozens or maybe a few hundred people at most could be enough to sustain a vibrant community.  We instead had many, many, MANY forums like that, rather than relying on everything being one massive website.  This was far more sustain table, because you could run a forum out of pocket as a hobby and it wasn't a big deal.  All of these massive global websites are expensive as hell to run and big investors are starting to realize that they don't' actually make money.
 
However, I don't think this is what the majority of people want  They want the dopamine hit from going 'viral' and getting hundreds, thousands, or even more likes from absolute strangers across the globe.  They don't want 10 reponses from a small passionate group, they want it big and impersonal, with the conversation being mostly one way even.

I know there were games that ran at 60fps like Ridge Racer, but I think the issue is games back then didn't have cache or bus bottlenecks relative to how fast the CPU and GPU/PPU was, so when a game ran at 15fps, it didn't have microstudder and games made in the past 15 years that run at 30fps have microstudder, hell, it even happens with games running at 120fps. As for noises, Hard Drive noises were a progress indication and while they're louder than modern fans, fan noises are at a higher frequency and you can blast bass and be fine, but high frequencies even at low volumes can be very irritating.

In looking this up, AMD has a good solution too.
https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2023-4-6--amd-launches-first-5nm-asic-based-media-accelerat.html
 
If it's 24fps you want accelerated, multiply that by 2.5


But something like that didn't really exist in 2019 and something like that is very overkill for a family media vault share. His current setup can transcode 18 4K streams
 

I think if one combined that AMD card with that i9 and was able to transcode like 40 4k streams using a 2gig line, you wouldn't want to go much beyond that anyway, I think the RIAA would descend like Locus. Though something like this would be cool if you wanted to roll your own twitch.


Anyway, we live in a time of where it's better to get something new than old that was high end when it was new. I mean, it made sense before Ryzen, it just doesn't now.

I know there were games that ran at 60fps like Ridge Racer, but I think the issue is games back then didn't have cache or bus bottlenecks relative to how fast the CPU and GPU/PPU was, so when a game ran at 15fps, it didn't have microstudder and games made in the past 15 years that run at 30fps have microstudder, hell, it even happens with games running at 120fps. As for noises, Hard Drive noises were a progress indication and while they're louder than modern fans, fan noises are at a higher frequency and you can blast bass and be fine, but high frequencies even at low volumes can be very irritating.

If Linus' trouble with IOT is any indication, go analog. My Door Bell is a 40 year old Xylophone note with a solenoid and it's exposed, so I can flick it and it dings.

I know there were games that ran at 60fps like Ridge Racer, but I think the issue is games back then didn't have cache or bus bottlenecks relative to how fast the CPU and GPU/PPU was, so when a game ran at 15fps, it didn't have microstudder and games made in the past 15 years that run at 30fps have microstudder, hell, it even happens with games running at 120fps. As for noises, Hard Drive noises were a progress indication and while they're louder than modern fans, fan noises are at a higher frequency and you can blast bass and be fine, but high frequencies even at low volumes can be very irritating.

These clicks sound pretty pleasing.

These clicks sound pretty pleasing.

The frame rate is actually kinda simple, 15fps on a CRT didn't look nearly as bad as 30fps on an LCD or even OLED as CRT effectively had zero persistence time.
 
You can't fix that problem with merely refresh rate either unfortunately, as its the fact the pixels take a long time to change state so will effectively be wrong for several frames as they are in the process of changing to the target colour.  So you need 120fps minimum to start to get as clear as CRT and its been suggested actually nearer 1000fps to fully clean it up.  Basically you need the difference between one frame and the next to never be more than a single pixel so any persistence becomes completely invisible to the eye, especially as were on much bigger screens now than we were back then.

Its why on really small screens like the Nintendo Switch and Steam Deck, 30fps doesn't feel nearly as bad as it does on a TV/monitor.

People also forget that in the late 90s we tended to be on 75Hz or even 120Hz monitors, its the 80s where it was lower.  I always pushed for a higher refresh rate back then as I'm sensitive to flicker and 60Hz was horrible, and the same rule applied that the bigger the screen, the higher the refresh rate you needed for comfort.
 
Fans and HDDs as already said, nobody was okay with it, we just had no choice.  There were plenty of office computers that were designed to be quiet back then, where they used 5400RPM HDDs and only higher end users chose 7200RPM and servers even higher where noise wasn't an issue.

I know there were games that ran at 60fps like Ridge Racer, but I think the issue is games back then didn't have cache or bus bottlenecks relative to how fast the CPU and GPU/PPU was, so when a game ran at 15fps, it didn't have microstudder and games made in the past 15 years that run at 30fps have microstudder, hell, it even happens with games running at 120fps. As for noises, Hard Drive noises were a progress indication and while they're louder than modern fans, fan noises are at a higher frequency and you can blast bass and be fine, but high frequencies even at low volumes can be very irritating.

Even begging by a sign takes effort.

That would be the point of such video. What can be done about such things, that is, if there is something that can be done. Sometimes the world wants us to think there's a one-size-fits-all approach to technology. But is that always the answer? Maybe it is. But until the internet is as reliable and in every place that AM and FM radio are, can we really call it a replacment?
 
I was reading that Italy had banded selling devices with FM radio capability if it didn't also receive DAB (Digital Air Broadcasting). So a lot of phone manufactures had to disable their FM chips in order to sell phones there. I'm not entirely sure this next thing is true, but according to some the result is ending up that they are cutting FM on all new european phones.
 
So I propose a video that addresses this and talks about options, practical options. I didn't know there were BlueTooth headphones with FM and even AM radios in them until this week! So I ordered one! I'm not saying that we need to keep a dying technology from dying. But there are lots of people that listen to lots of AM and FM stations still. Taking it out of cars and phones and such just seems like an attempt to kill off the tech prematurely. But regardless, it's still there, so why not have options to listen to it if you want to?

I'm well aware of the range benefit of AM, it's just we're shifting to a world that assumes internet everywhere. I don;t even like how our digital infrastructure assumes you have internet at home,because of that, you can't buy the Man DeLorean on Blu-ray and you can't but Adobe CS anymore.


 

Ya, that's a start on it. But the subject of public broadcast radio is much more deeper than one would think.
 
For an example, not long after I got this phone without FM radio that replaced my previous phone that did have FM radio I found myself in a terrible storm and an entire valley without any internet or cellphone service for several days. And this happened not once, but twice. The closest place with cell service was about 70 miles away over a windy mountainous road that was closed due to the storm (not to mention, how do you know where there is going to be cell service in such circumstances?).
 
The only battery (or gasoline) powered radio I had at the time was the one in my car. But ironically the authorities were saying to not go out and sit in your car, that it was too dangerous at the moment, but to instead stay inside until further notice on what to do...
 
AM radio also travels farther. FM is basically line-of-sight. Once you go too far past the horizon, you lose FM, which is easy to do in the mountains and therfore limits the listening radius here to some 15 miles or less. But I can get AM from hundreds of miles away, especially at night, as it can use both skywave and groundwave propagation.

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, I guess the ultimate test for retro PC would be like Word 2000 at 1600x1200, if it looks good there it would look good everywhere. 8k is an integer scale of 1440p (3x) 8K is a superset of 4k and 1440p and will do everything those resolutions do. A good test would be 4K, I doubt 1600x1200 will look good on a 4K monitor, but I could be pleasantly surprised I would also be pleasantly surprised if an interpolated 4.5x of 480p did well on a 4k display. I think a good test would be the Dreamcast or OG Xbox because of the pixel art fighters.


 
 
Well, since FM is frequency modulation, (FM) it plays nice with software defined radio, am used amplitude modulation (AM) and software defined radio isn't built around that, they're getting rid of the hardware AM tuner in cars and I guess few people use FM in Phones, so they don't bother supporting that feature anymore. Also, you can get a $5 per month Tello plan with unthrottled 4G 256MB and after you spend that 256MB, you get throttled to 2G speeds (Usually defined as 128kbps, so like ISDN speeds) and that's plenty fast enough for AAC at FM quality, but codecs have improved a lot in the past 20 years and xHE-AAC sounds fantastic at 24kbps.
 
 

Good topic!
 
8K may rule them all whenever someone comes out with an 8K retro upscaler. But we still don't have even a 4K retro upscaler.
 
I'd like testing to see how much scaling and CRT filtering is enough to trick the eye.
 
For an example, integer scaling is best, but can you always notice when it's not interger scaled? Would you notice that something's not interger scaled on a 4K display with good interpolation?

I'd think that 8K would also integer scale anything with hardly any noticeable downsides. Black boarders or overscan would be minimal, and rectangular pixels would be nearly the same aspect ratio as on a CRT.
 
But as you (and I) have said, I wouldn't think integer scaling would be needed at that resolution. Interpolation would be extremely hard to notice without a microscope.

Thanks! Also, since this is the first thing you posted here welcome to the forum!

I think we may not need an 8k upsciler unless you want CRT filters emulating a shadow mask. But 1440p is fine for SD and 720p consoles. With current display tech to not need a CRT, you would need a 1440p display and raid goodwill for LCD monitors that have 768 (or rig an ipad screen that's pixels 1536 high) and 1200 for vertical resolution, that's 3 monitors and you would still be missing 1280x960 and you'll have to get a 1260x1024 display with black bars on the top and bottom and get those monitors recapped and it would be a mess.


I hope 8k will be enough pixels to not need integer scaling.

Here's an idea for a topic that I've obsessed over: Modern monitors for retro resolutions and how the stopgap resolution of quad 720p (1440p) is better than quad 1080p (4k) for that application and how you have to go up to 8k to be an integer scale of 480p and even 720p if early HD consoles are your thing. But I have an educated guess that if you have an 8k monitor, since the PPI is higher than the finest dot pitch of the best CRT ever made, it might look good for reading text while emulating Win9x inside of DOSbox-X at 1024x768, 1280x960, 800x600 and 1600x1200 or a retro rig using VGA to HDMI conversion at the native VGA rez (love to see a test with a late 90's Win 9x build at 1600x1200 on an 8k monitor) even though none of those vertical resolutions aren't integer scales of 4320p and I'd like that to be the end all be all because in order for a monitor to be the smallest rez while being an integer scale of every resolution, (apart from the base resolution of monochrome m68k macs) monitors would have to go back to 16:10 at 30,720x19,200 and I doubt that will ever happen, even 8k is almost snakeoil for most applications.


Is 8k one resolution to rule them all?