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Uhhh, that's not how rendering a video works. An old Core 2 Duo will still be able to Render a 4K 60 FPS 1 Hour video with Cineform as the export codec, but it would take days to render. Video rendering doesn't happen in real-time like games. The performance of a CPU doesn't determine how many FPS you can export your video at.

Probably not. Sometimes when a program like Cheat Engine is open, CS:GO can start up with -insecure running as a launch option (it's really weird but I've seen it happen) this stops you from playing on VAC servers. If it's fine now, then you probably aren't gonna be vac'd.

Hmm. That's definitely some anomalous behaviour right there. Have you tried sending the job to Media Encoder instead?

What does task manager have to say? Is there anything else running in the background?

That doesn't sound right to me. And that bitrate is way too high if that's a YouTube video. Are you running anything else in the background?

Okay, but this lacks a lot of context. What are you exporting? Premiere or After Effects? Is it 4K, or 1080? what codec and bitrate?

I know what you mean. I've been doing video editing and effects compositing in the Adobe CC Suite for a couple of years now, and performance is perfectly acceptable running off a 1st Gen Lynnfield i5 750 @ 3.20GHz. But then again if Youtube's your main job, you might have a bit more money to spend and want to save some time.

That is a good point. I personally believe that if AMD is going to price the 8-core Ryzen at $500, then they will also price the 4-core cheaper than the 6700K. However, these price points are based off of rumours, and they're probably closer than my guess could ever get to the real deal. AMD could be only offering a massive discount over Intel on it's top tier offering for the sake of being able to draw people into the AM4 platform. For all we know, that 3.4Ghz+ on the 8-core at an impressive 95 TDP could indicate that their 4-core will be able outperform the 6700K purely through clock speed. But that's just my speculation.

I know you don't NEED 4 cores per gamer, but that's not the point of this post. The point is to look at the price delta between normal rigs, and their appropriate double rig counterpart. I decided to go with 4 cores per rig because that's pretty standard nowadays, and a few games are starting to refuse to run on anything less than 4 cores.

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(TL;DR at bottom) So, all the hype around Ryzen is starting to cool off. As I staved off boredom today, looking back through older Linustechtips videos, I came across the 7 Gamers 1 CPU video and decided to watch the original instead, going all the way back to the 2 Gamers 1 CPU video. Watching this video reminded me of the time when this video had just come out and, being a teenager without a six-figure income, I had tried to find out if it was cheaper to make this rig instead of two identical performance-matched rigs. In short, the answer was no, with the CPU being the main cost restriction. The price delta going from a consumer 4 core up to an 8 core was too much on Intel's side, and AMD's FX 8xxx or 9xxx offerings simply wouldn't run that well on 4 cores per rig. This stumbling block made me a little bit sad, as the idea of sharing certain components between two rigs to save money seemed like it had a lot of potential. But here comes Ryzen. While we should be taking the pricing rumours with a grain of salt, all I can do is wait and hope that AMD will make the right move and force Intel into a pricing war. So without further ado… 2 GAMERS 1 CPU INTEL: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x42sVY Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x42sVY/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($999.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: Asus X99-E ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($208.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Kingston FURY 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($162.98 @ PCM) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.88 @ OutletPC) Other: 2 x Windows 10 Home License ($200.00) Other: UnRAID Plus License ($89.00) Total: $3268.08 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 19:49 EST-0500 INDIVIDUAL RIG INTEL: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dftDQV Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dftDQV/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.89 @ OutletPC) Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC) Other: Windows 10 Home License ($100.00) Total: $1597.86 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 19:53 EST-0500 I chose an i7 6900K on Intel's side because AMD has been keen to compare their 8/16 top model Ryzen CPU with it, and their benchmarks show they are fairly equal in terms of performance. As You can see from the parts list, by only changing the necessary components between a 2 PC rig and a normal rig, the 2 PC rig is just over double the price of the single rig. This defeats the cost benefit of the double rig. But what if we went with a Ryzen CPU for both rigs? This will involve a bit of guessing, as there is no set price on Ryzen CPUs or on any AM4 motherboards as of yet. For the CPUs, we’ll go with the rumoured USD $500 for the 8 core and USD $350 for the 4 core. For the AMD motherboard, we’ll go with a worst case scenario pricing-wise, and price it at USD $200 - Roughly the same as the X99 motherboard (enthusiast platform) used in the Intel double rig. 2 GAMERS 1 CPU AMD: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gN7NYr Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gN7NYr/by_merchant/ CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Memory: Kingston FURY 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($162.98 @ PCM) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.88 @ OutletPC) Other: 2 x Windows 10 Home License ($200.00) Other: UnRAID Plus License ($89.00) Other: AMD Ryzen 8 Core CPU ($499.00) Other: Nondescript AM4 ATX Motherboard ($199.00) Total: $2757.10 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 20:16 EST-0500 INDIVIDUAL RIG AMD: CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ NCIX US) Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($103.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.15 @ NCIX US) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($399.99 @ B&H) Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.88 @ OutletPC) Other: Nondescript AM4 ATX Motherboard ($199.00) Other: AMD Ryzen 4 Core CPU ($349.00) Other: Windows 10 Home License ($100.00) Total: $1690.98 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 20:24 EST-0500 On AMDs side things get more interesting. There actually is a substantial saving going from an individual rig to a double rig. This is due to AMDs (theoretically priced) offerings. These rumoured prices follow the business model of getting more bang for your buck as you buy higher tier models (while the jump from a 6700K to a 6900K is over double the price). This, combined with the fact that the AM4 platforms unifying these different models means there will be no delta in motherboard pricing. This results in the possibility of 2 Gamers 1 CPU now being a viable money saving option, even with the added cost of an unRAID Plus License. Of course, this is all hypothetical. This could well go down the drain if AMD prices Ryzen similar to Intel's current offering. But hey! One can hope! What are your thoughts on this? (Please let me know if I've made a typo or mistake somewhere) TL:DR (Going from rumoured pricing of USD$500 and $350 for Ryzen's 8-core and 4-core CPUs respectively) A Ryzen based 2 Gamers 1 CPU machine offers a substantial per-rig discount over a Ryzen based normal rig, while Intel's current offerings mean that an Intel based 2 Gamers 1 CPU machine is less economically viable per-rig over an Intel based normal rig. Ryzen may well make 2 Gamers 1 CPU a lucrative possibility. EDIT - HTML bits didn't work. Replaced with normal text.

I will heartily recommend the Audio Technica ATH-M40X. Great sound, and you can order them from PC Case Gear for $129 AUD. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/26693/audio-technica-ath-m40x-professional-studio-headphones They even come with three different detachable cables - 1.5m straight, 3m straight, and 1.5m coiled - all ending in a 3.5mm jack.

The thing is, compared to Adobe's previous business model it's a lot better. They used to release CS versions every two years or so, and every time you wanted to upgrade, it would cost you a good couple of thousand dollars for the entire Creative Suite. Now, the subscription model means you get every Adobe product, and every update, at a fraction of what it used to cost.

I remember a couple of CS:GO updates released would reset all my Video setting to Auto. Auto would then max out everything (including antialiasing and anisotropic filtering) and cause my fps to really chug. It might seem like a stupid question, but have you checked your video settings?

Yeah I know. I guess I'm just still a little miffed about Apple dumbing down the software to such a degree from Final Cut 7. When Apple released Final Cut X (Now just called Final Cut Pro) it caused lots of the professional video industry to jump ship from Apple's ecosystem to Adobe's. Apple has tried to rectify this by "undumbing" the software back to it's original level of complexity from FC7, but now Adobe's CC software suite has convinced a lot of ex Final Cut users to stay.

Final cut. Yeah... You mean the piece of crap software that costs $300 USD?

Ahhhh. Back when the Apple symbol in the top left corner was blue instead of black. Takes me back to my childhood.

If they're not lying about the 6.75 Gbps maximum bandwidth, then it should handle 1080p @ 60Hz just fine HOWEVER if my calculations are correct, then even that would only support 12-bit colour at most.

Ah, I see.

I guess it comes down to HD being a defined standard - that is, the resolution of 1280x720. "Stunning" is a subjective word - its an opinion, and that's where I tune out of any marketing. So for me, HD is what the defined standard is: HD - 720p FHD - 1080p WQHD - 1440p UHD - 2160p Good HD? Well then I'd say at least 1080p.

Sorry, but 1440p is not QHD. QHD, or qHD is "quarter high definition" and refers to 960x540 You're mixing it up with WQHD "widescreen quad high definition" which refers to 1440p

^^ What @TheKDub said. In this case, it's not the cable in question (although Cate 5e or Cat6 will definitely be better than coax). If you're using extenders, it's always the conversion ability of the extenders that will be the bottleneck. Find some better ones or lower your refresh rate to 30Hz for now.

OxygenOS is much more streamlined and optimised than Touchwiz. From what I've heard, OxygenOS does not slow down over time like Touchwiz does. 1080p is just fine for the 3T, because if you're viewing the screen at a normal viewing distance (probably around a foot or more away from your face) you'd be very hard pressed to see the difference between 1080p and 1440p. The ONLY downside to switching to the 3T is that you're losing the stylus, but otherwise it's an upgrade in every other respect. Despite the 3T having a lower res, It's not noticeable and the colours and brightness are much better.

1. By 2K are you referring to 1440p? 2. What will you be using it for?

Using an old Lynnfield and Evergreen potato (can't remember the exact specs). Using Kodi for multimedia needs (successor to XBMC) and Steam in-home streaming with Xbox 360 controllers for gaming.