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ok thanks!

On 12/28/2023 at 2:01 PM, PDifolco said:

Depends of what you want from it

Basically any B650 board will work ok, all have overkill VRM and the 7800X3D don't need much power

Only difficulty is if you want some specific PCie lanes/M2 setup, all all boards have different but equally weird choices with everything from Gen5x16 to Gen3x1... really have to look at details here :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit?usp=sharing

 

Good all around boards would be B650 Gigabyte Aorus Gaming or Elite, either ATX or mATX for 50 bucks less (C$200 to $300)

A rather more luxurious nice one imo at 450 canuck rubles is the Asus B650E Strix E-E, the cheapest to have a postcode (and B650E has more PCie lanes too)

 

 

Hey - do you have a similar sheet for Intel 14th gen? (14700K cpu)

Thank you!!

Ok coming back to this hopefully one last time. It looks like it's a Chrome issue. No idea why.

Issues Include:

- Video playback audio skipping

- Black Screen across TV

- Black screen across TV and monitor

- Lag effect when enabling YT fullscreen

- Lag effect when exiting YT fullscreen

- Windows media player causing a fault on Twitch popout

- automated context switching following a blackscreen across all active displays

- Input lag when interacting with Chrome

Moved over to FF now to see if any of those issues manifest themselves on that browser. (Two hours later, nothing)

For me the issue of Steam loading slow and the context menu being slow was 100% the Igpu. I proved that by removing the Discrete GPU and using only on board graphics (no issue). Once I put my GPU back in and disabled Integrated Graphics in the BIOS there was no further issue.

It looks like the other issues  I've been have are related to running a TV at 4K 120 and HDR on. Either I have a poor 8K cable or I've maxed out the bandwidth. Either way, I can run 4K, HDR at 100Hz or 4K, no HDR and 120Hz.

6 hours ago, wapochief said:

No, the motherboard supports it, but my 5700x has no integrated graphics. I'll look to see if this is an option for me in the bios. 

4 hours ago, wapochief said:

Did you resolve this? I have a new AMD build and it is also very slow to open any application. Worse than a HDD. 

Hello,

Do you have a chip with integrated graphics? If so you will need to go into the BIOS to disable the igpu. (ensure you are plugged into your GPU and not your motherboard too)

I wasn't able to traverse to find the location in the BIOS I had to just search for Graphics

I am still testing some of the other symptoms, but right now the theory is that it might be HDR related. But that has yet to be proven.

I've never had to go into the BIOS to disable integrated graphics to solve a software load time issue. Any one have any ideas? If this was common I would have thought I would see more posts about these specific issues

Ok so it seems like the onboard graphics are a part of the issue. I removed the GPU, plugged into the onboard graphics and the unresponsiveness of loading Steam was completely gone. Steam boots instantly now.

However there are other issues, but I ignored them, rebooted, went into BIOS and disabled integrated graphics there. Reinstalled the GPU, swapped cables and booted. All was good - almost. 

Steam responsiveness near instant.

I got a Black screen and audio BUZZZZ when I loaded a YT video. 

I emailed MemoryExpress yesterday morning with no response yet. Still don't know if it's the board or what.

Does anyone have any other suggestions??

I have played with MCR both enabled and disabled and not seen a noticeable difference. Always time to BIOS has been between 35-40 seconds. I will look at the PowerDownEnabled setting too.

Current boot time to Windows lock screen is 1minute. I understand Time to BIOS is super slow for the 7000 series.

Issues have persisted over 3 different OS installs. Win 11, then tested with Win 10 and now back to Win 11.

I will be testing tonight to remove my GPU and only have onboard graphics to see if I can reproduce that Black screen issue. I have already contacted MemoryExpress about returning the motherboard.

Thats all I can think off. I'm at a dead end right now so any help at all from anyone would be greatly appreciated!!

Benchmarked Shadow of the Tomb Raider and it was just fine - no issues

Another new fun issue - if I try to install a Steam game and click on the cog to install it in a different place it just kills the installer screen

ok good to know about the BIOS time, thank you.

I cannot deal with the application start time though. Its infuriating as it's so long between clicking to execute and anything at all happening that I'm always wondering if I've misclicked.

There must still be something wrong.

All drivers are current. I just did a fresh wipe today. All Drivers from ROG were downloaded and installed. I just installed Nvidia driver 5 mins before typing this, lets test...yup forced a main screen black with a buzz sound (the first sound from the show just buzzed). It recovered after a second and continued on.

On thing I did before that did not seem to have an impact (although its hard to tell because it is random - even though it happened right now as I tested) - was to create a rule in Display settings to force Chrome to use the GPU and not rely on onboard graphics.

New build from Black Friday, been wrestling with it since.

CPU: 7800X3d

Motherboard: ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WIFI

RAM: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade DDR5-6000 CL30 32GB

PSU: Supernova 850w Gold Storage: WD SN850X 2TB, SABRENT Rocket Q 4TB NVMe

GPU: NVidia 3080Ti FE (this is from the previous build)

Sound Card: SoundBlaster ZxR (No daughter board)

Windows 11 - fresh install

BIOS: 2214 - Jan 2 2024

Time to boot to BIOS is about 37 seconds (always between 35 and 40). Full boot to Windows Lock screen is 1 minute

On a fresh boot time to load Steam is 15 seconds. Time to load Friends list from right click Steam icon on the task bar is 15 seconds (the right click menu stays there for the full 15 seconds). If I close Steam and immediately re-open it, its still 15 seconds.

This seems super bad. My previous build was a 7700K and Time to BIOS was about 11seconds and boot time was 25seconds. Steam opens in 2 seconds and friends list is near instant.

Are these normal times? Am I missing some setting?

Fast boot is enabled. Same times regardless of having EXPO set to 1, 2 or disabled. I've tried Memory Context Restore (MCR) both disabled and enabled (both places).

Is it an issue with my SN850x? FW is up to date on that. It is installed in the M.2_1 NVMe socket (closest to the CPU) with no SATA ports in use (yet)
Is it an issue with the motherboard?

Other issues which may be related:

Randomly screen will go black when I open a Netflix show in Chrome. If just the main monitor goes black it will recover. There are no errors and nothing noted in Event Viewer.

If both monitors go black it's 50/50 on it coming back. Half the time I have to do a hard reset. I can hear the show playing though. Again no error nothing in Event Viewer

Youtube will randomly lose sound for a second or two. This has happened 4 times in 2 months. Nothing in Event Viewer.

I cannot force any of these issues to happen. Super random. GPU Drivers were uninstalled with DDU and resintalled. 

NO BSOD at all.

WE have lift off!!

Had to go into the BIOS to set it to ignore the CPU fan lower limit as nothing is plugged into that header. Temps with the new AIO are 20 degrees C cooler than before. 

I can't thank you enough for your help!!!!

I’ll finish setting it up without that and see what happens.

thank you very much for taking the time to help me out. I owe you a beer

I’ve got bad eyes but from what I can see nothing looks cut off - unless the shrink wrap is over top of it

edit also all the cables attached are fairly long

This is the connectors from the pump, and then the core and what’s attached and the one extra cable right behind it (that’s the previous cable I was asking about)

Nothing looks cut or cut back off the pump. Just the core cable and the usb header cable come off the pump 

but I did buy it refurbished so who knows if something was super missing off it 

Here’s what I’ve gone ahead and done

1) usb from pump to usb header

2) commander cable from pump to commander core

3) usb from commander core to usb header

4) data power from core to PSU

Does that sound about right to you?

I also don’t know what this last cable is for? USB header to two… what?

This is from the manual

• Connect pump tach cable to the CPU_FAN header on your motherboard (Figure 2).

I appreciate you trying I really need to know for sure. All the vids do say attach to the cpu fan header but of course it’s not specific to my exact model.

I jumped on the deal for the iCUE H170i ELITE LCD Display 420mm AIO a few weeks ago. It was refurbished but I decided to get the warranty with it just in case to cover my bases. I'm installing it and its turned into a cluster f.

I am installing this on a 7800X3d and an ROG STRIX B650-A Gaming motherboard

1) instructions say to remove the plastic mounting bracket. Well the mounting bracket is metal and attached with special screw heads that I can't get off. I assume the instructions are referencing AM4 ? Its very hard to tell

2) I assumed to keep the mounting bracket in place (that's the lever to hold the CPU in place right?) And now I've screwed down the pump and heatsink. I go to plug it in but there are only 2 cables off the pump - one for the icUE commander core and a USB header. That's all - no 3pin fan header?

I've tried google-fu'ing it but it's not giving me exactly what I need unfortunately. Am I missing a fan header connector off my pump head? Did I royally screw this up??

Budget (including currency): <500

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 90%gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I currently have an ASUS ROG STRIX B650-A Gaming motherboard. However I've had a LOT of issues with this build that I believe are related to the memory controller. (no BSOD, just black screens randomly)

I'm looking to replace this with a board that is recommended rather than me just selecting one that I "think" would be good.

Memory is 32GB ADATA XPG Lancer Blade DDR5-6000 CL30 32GB (2x 16GB) Dual Channel RAM.

@PDifolco @Poinkachu @RONOTHAN## @Middcore

Thank you all very much for your help on this!

8 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

They can look similar but not be with different pinouts

you are correct, thanks! I twisted the cables when looking at them and had it mixed up

4 minutes ago, Middcore said:

It looks like you're trying to plug the end of the cable that goes in the board connector into the PSU. Flip the cable around? 

negative, both ends seem to be exactly the same