i5 8400 with 1180/2080, bottleneck?

[Chaos Gamer]

I don't understand why this happens but benchmarks by websites are very different from the ones made by small youtubers. From 8400's review by big youtubers and websites, you can see that there's little to no difference between an 8700k and an 8400, and that's why I settled for an 8400. But go to other small youtubers who have made 8400 vs 8700k and you'll see that it has as much as 30fps difference, example ac origins in this video-

Why is that? Is it because the binned ones are given to bigger channels? Or the smaller channels don't even have the processors and are just predicting the difference and making it a video so they can make more money? What's more, you can notice a particular trend between processors, example an 8400 and an 8600k will mostly have 9fps difference in many games and another youtuber had 15fps difference between them for the whole video, so my suspicion grew even more. 20-30fps is big, right? So if an 8400 bottlenecks a current gen this much, then what about next gen? I can't get a better cpu, 9th gen is gonna be a refresh meaning no big performance boost. So will it bottleneck a 2080/1180 badly?

[Firewrath9]

Thats becuase hes using a 1060. Change that to faster than an 1080 ti, watch those fps drop for the 8400. Get at least a 8600k overcloked for top tier gpus

[Chaos Gamer]

1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

Thats becuase hes using a 1060

actually he uses both 1060 and 1080, see the video again. there's no difference with a 1060, meaning no bottleneck, but with a 1080 there's a huge difference.

[asus killer]

1 minute ago, Chaos Gamer said:

actually he uses both 1060 and 1080, see the video again. there's no difference with a 1060, meaning no bottleneck, but with a 1080 there's a huge difference.

with the 1060 the GPU is bottlenecking the CPU so it all evens out no matter the CPU.

[Chaos Gamer]

 

 

this guy is slightly more famous and he gets results like what other big youtubers get, only a few fps difference. hell, in linus' video, an 8400 is better than an 8700k with a 1080ti

 

[Chaos Gamer]

1 minute ago, asus killer said:

with the 1060 the GPU is bottlenecking the CPU so it all evens out no matter the CPU

ok but it means that the gpu is slower than the cpu, so the cpu isn;t hindering its performance, thats what not bottlenecking means

[IdiotPenguin]

Are the videos you’re comparing using the same resolution? A 8400 will likely perform worse than a 8700k depending what games are being run. Higher CPU intensive games will start to highlight the difference between the two CPUS and resolution also plays a role. At 1080p you’re sure to see FPS differences no matter what game you play (probably) and  in 1440p and above it starts to get super close. 

 

I assure you the 8400 will not bottleneck any current/new gpus but getting a stronger processor will make you see performance gains so you don’t have much to worry about. If you really wanna make sure you get that max performance just get the 8700k once new gen releases and prices drop

[Chaos Gamer]

2 minutes ago, IdiotPenguin said:

A 8400 will likely perform worse than a 8700k depending what games are being run. Higher CPU intensive games will start to highlight the difference between the two CPUS and resolution also plays a role. At 1080p you’re sure to see FPS differences no matter what game you play (probably) and  in 1440p and above it starts to get super close. 

I know all that, and I'm only comparing 1080p benchmarks of the same games, my question is why is there such a big difference between different reviewers

[Dedayog]

You have to know the exact settings for each reviewer, basically.  MSAA for instance will cripple a 1080Ti in certain games.

 

A lot of it is subjective, depending on the reviewer and how they review.  You have to take them all with a grain of salt since they may not necessarily have your config and settings mix.

 

Look at them all, use your thinking brain, extrapolate to your situation.

[IdiotPenguin]

1 minute ago, Chaos Gamer said:

I know all that, and I'm only comparing 1080p benchmarks of the same games, my question is why is there such a big difference between different reviewers

Not all cpus are made exactly the same so that’s probably one reason but I don’t think that would cause that much of an FPS difference. There’s a crap ton of variables in terms of comparing benchmarks so I can’t really say why

[asus killer]

9 minutes ago, Chaos Gamer said:

ok but it means that the gpu is slower than the cpu, so the cpu isn;t hindering its performance, thats what not bottlenecking means

there is always something bottlenecking your workload, in that specific case is the GPU. I don't get what you are saying.

[IdiotPenguin]

I’ve been through this before and it’s probably best just to not overthink it so for me personally I went with the 8700.