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[STRMfrmXMN]

9 hours ago, miggu4n said:

Anyway doing some research on internet I found that mobo's memory support list is always uncomplete. For example, my ram isn't listed, but If my mobo's spec sais that it can support a up to 3000mhz, I can use those rams. It's just a cpu limitation, which can handle up to 2667mhz ram. This means that my CPU will underclock my rams or that I need to manually underclock my rams? If so, it doesn't make sense to buy a 3000mhz ram and I should go for 2667 one 

No, that's not how it works on Ryzen. That's how it works on Intel, but not on AMD Ryzen. It will try to run at 3000 MHz and will probably corrupt your OS if it's egregiously bad like my memory on Ryzen. I've had to reinstall Windows every time I've run my 3200 MHz non Samsung B-die memory at 3200 MHz.

 

Trust me on this - please, please please buy Samsung B-die memory if you want to use first-gen Ryzen. It's caused my SO many headaches for me using Hynix memory like you chose. Just choose RAM from that list on Reddit I linked. It will save you so much time and hassle.

[miggu4n]

9 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

No, that's not how it works on Ryzen. That's how it works on Intel, but not on AMD Ryzen. It will try to run at 3000 MHz and will probably corrupt your OS if it's egregiously bad like my memory on Ryzen. I've had to reinstall Windows every time I've run my 3200 MHz non Samsung B-die memory at 3200 MHz.

 

Trust me on this - please, please please buy Samsung B-die memory if you want to use first-gen Ryzen. It's caused my SO many headaches for me using Hynix memory like you chose. Just choose RAM from that list on Reddit I linked. It will save you so much time and hassle.

Oh gosh!
I'm looking at the link you posted. Actually, I must buy only Samsung B-Die ram, right?
Also, are your ram those you have in your PCPartPicker build?

EDIT:
I'm actually confused... Most of the Samsung B-Die memory listed in that thread on reddit are not listed in my mobo's supported ram list, and most of the supported ram list are not in that thread on reddit.
While if I check on the supported memory list of asus x370 pro, my vengeance are listed as supported. I can't understand if it is a CPU issue or mobo issue. If it's a mobo issue I could just swap my mobo or I could still have problems?

EDIT 2:
Samsung B-Die are as expansive as you said... about +90€ for same specs... If 2nd gen Ryzen (like ryzen 2700 or 2700x) doesn't have this kind of problem, It's better to swap CPU instead of rams. 

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 hours ago, miggu4n said:

Oh gosh!
I'm looking at the link you posted. Actually, I must buy only Samsung B-Die ram, right?
Also, are your ram those you have in your PCPartPicker build?

EDIT:
I'm actually confused... Most of the Samsung B-Die memory listed in that thread on reddit are not listed in my mobo's supported ram list, and most of the supported ram list are not in that thread on reddit.
While if I check on the supported memory list of asus x370 pro, my vengeance are listed as supported. I can't understand if it is a CPU issue or mobo issue. If it's a mobo issue I could just swap my mobo or I could still have problems?

EDIT 2:
Samsung B-Die are as expansive as you said... about +90€ for same specs... If 2nd gen Ryzen (like ryzen 2700 or 2700x) doesn't have this kind of problem, It's better to swap CPU instead of rams. 

If you want your memory to be 100% stable at XMP speeds then yes, you must use Samsung B-die. I never posted a PCPP link. If you're talking about the one in my personal system, no, that particular set of G.Skill Ripjaws V is Hynix M-die. The fastest I can get my memory stable with no concerns is somewhere in the region of 2866-2933 with crazy balls-to-the-wall overvolting and fine-tuning of timings.

 

If it's Samsung B-die then it's on your supported list, I'm certain. You might be looking at the wrong SKUs of products or something. It's both a motherboard and Ryzen issue, but generally it's a Ryzen issue. Samsung B-die will generally work at XMP on even crappy A320 boards.

 

Yes, I would get cheaper RAM that has the potential for high speeds and get the newer Ryzen chips (and potentially a newer B450 or X470 board instead of the first-gen ones).

[miggu4n]

3 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

If you want your memory to be 100% stable at XMP speeds then yes, you must use Samsung B-die. I never posted a PCPP link. If you're talking about the one in my personal system, no, that particular set of G.Skill Ripjaws V is Hynix M-die. The fastest I can get my memory stable with no concerns is somewhere in the region of 2866-2933 with crazy balls-to-the-wall overvolting and fine-tuning of timings.

 

If it's Samsung B-die then it's on your supported list, I'm certain. You might be looking at the wrong SKUs of products or something. It's both a motherboard and Ryzen issue, but generally it's a Ryzen issue. Samsung B-die will generally work at XMP on even crappy A320 boards.

 

Yes, I would get cheaper RAM that has the potential for high speeds and get the newer Ryzen chips (and potentially a newer B450 or X470 board instead of the first-gen ones).

Sorry if i'm dumb, but I did not understand yet.

Anyway, I swapped the CPU for the 2700x ad got the vengeance lpx. I've checked on the mobo's supported memory and it's listed, so this means that asus tested those ram with 2nd gen ryzen 7...
If I'll have some problems i'll send back vengeance ram and buy Flare X (Wich I read that are optimized for ryzen) 

Hoping that this will not cause me too much headhache...

I'm keeping you update on how it will go... Posting PC photos, test, benchmarks and opinion hoping that this thread will be usefull to other people 

[miggu4n]

Update:

Finally I've checked every hardware and now this is the "final" part list:

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
Mobo: Asus Prime x470 Pro

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB @ 3.0Ghz

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce OC 3G

SSD: Crucial MX500 250GB

Case: Antec DF500 RGB
PSU: Corsair CX750 (750W)

 

 

On 12/8/2018 at 7:02 PM, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yes, I would get cheaper RAM that has the potential for high speeds and get the newer Ryzen chips (and potentially a newer B450 or X470 board instead of the first-gen ones).

As you said, I went for a new x470 mobo because, if I want to buy an old x370, I need to update BIOS on the motherboard. In order to do that, I need a 1st gen Ryzen or an AMD A series, because 2nd get Ryzen are not reconized until I update the BIOS (this if the x370 mobo is not "ryzen 2nd gen ready" labeled. So, let's go for the x470.

Buying everything on 16th August. I've Amazon Prime so I hope that everything will be under my hands on 17th or 21th at least.

I'll update this thread as soon as I do some benchmarks

 

[miggu4n]

Here I am again
I'm posting with my new build! yay!

 

As I promise, here are some benchmarks:

Blender 2.79, BMW Benchmark scene:
Ryzen 7 2700x -> 4m 43s

GTX 1060 3gb -> 4m 15s

Cinebench R15 -> CPU score: 1694

                              OpenGL fps: 107.77

Seems pretty good.