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1 minute ago, PhantomSoma said:

Alright thanks for the fast reply, any tips for where to buy that stuff?

4790 is no longer in production so ebay etc there.  They are $150-ish.  1070 from Amazon or Newegg if you are in the states.

 

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So I've been thinking about getting a completely new PC. With my current build, including a 1050 TI, an i5 - 4400 CPU and 8 GB of RAM, i find myself not being able to play AAA games at stable 60 fps if i don't turn the setting down to at least medium-low. I don't know if it has to do anything to do with the rest of my PC, so that's why i came here. I can provide the full list of hardware if needed, but I don't wanna get a completely new PC just because i only would have to upgrade like only the CPU or something that's just not worth getting everything else again for. But if I would need to upgrade a bunch of stuff, I could really need help with a new build. I don't know where to get my parts for a good price and most importantly not to get parts that are overkill. 

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It was mid-tier hardware when it was new a couple years ago. You can't really expect ultra graphics on mid-tier hardware.

 

And yeah, you'd have to replace both the CPU and GPU to go for 60fps guarantee at high settings.

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7 minutes ago, PhantomSoma said:

So I've been thinking about getting a completely new PC. With my current build, including a 1050 TI, an i5 - 4400 CPU and 8 GB of RAM, i find myself not being able to play AAA games at stable 60 fps if i don't turn the setting down to at least medium-low. I don't know if it has to do anything to do with the rest of my PC, so that's why i came here. I can provide the full list of hardware if needed, but I don't wanna get a completely new PC just because i only would have to upgrade like only the CPU or something that's just not worth getting everything else again for. But if I would need to upgrade a bunch of stuff, I could really need help with a new build. I don't know where to get my parts for a good price and most importantly not to get parts that are overkill. 

Graphics aren't everything gameplay is. Don't complain that your machine "can't play AAA games" just because you have to turn the settings down. All hardware ends up needing settings turning down to play new games at some point.

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Current Rig (Dominator II): 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3133 C15, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 at 4GHz, Coolermaster MasterLiquid Lite 120, ASRock B450M Pro4, AMD R9 280X, 120GB TCSunBow SSD, 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001-9YN166 HSD, Corsair CX750M Grey Label, Windows 10 Pro, 2x CoolerMaster MasterFan Pro 120, Thermaltake Versa H18 Tempered Glass.

 

Previous Rig (Black Magic): 8GB DDR3 1600, AMD FX6300 OC'd to 4.5GHz, Zalman CNPS5X Performa, Asus M5A78L-M PLUS /USB3, GTX 950 SC (former, it blew my PCIe lane so now on mobo graphics which is Radeon HD 3000 Series), 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200RPM HDD, 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001-9YN166 HDD (secondary), Corsair CX750M, Windows 8.1 Pro, 2x 120mm Red LED fans, Deepcool SMARTER case

 

My secondary rig (The Oldie): 4GB DDR2 800, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3GHz, Stock Dell Cooler, Foxconn 0RY007, AMD Radeon HD 5450, 250GB Samsung Spinpoint 7200RPM HDD, Antec HCG 400M 400W Semi Modular PSU, Windows 8.1 Pro, 80mm Cooler Master fan, Dell Inspiron 530 Case modded for better cable management. UPDATE: SPECS UPGRADED DUE TO CASEMOD, 8GB DDR2 800, AMD Phenom X4 9650, Zalman CNPS5X Performa, Biostar GF8200C M2+, AMD Radeon HD 7450 GDDR5 edition, Samsung Spinpoint 250GB 7200RPM HDD, Antec HCG 400M 400W Semi Modular PSU, Windows 8.1 Pro, 80mm Cooler Master fan, Dell Inspiron 530 Case modded for better cable management and support for non Dell boards.

 

Retired/Dead Rigs: The OG (retired) (First ever PC I used at 3 years old back in 2005) Current Specs: 2GB DDR2, Pentium M 770 @ 2.13GHz, 60GB IDE laptop HDD, ZorinOS 12 Ultimate x86. Originally 512mb DDR2, Pentium M 740 @ 1.73GHzm 60GB IDE laptop HDD and single boot XP Pro. The Craptop (dead), 2gb DDR3, Celeron n2840 @ 2.1GHz, 50GB eMMC chip, Windows 10 Pro. Nightrider (dead and cannibalized for Dominator II): Ryzen 3 1200, Gigabyte A320M HD2, 8GB DDR4, XFX Ghost Core Radeon HD 7770, 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 (2010), 3TB Seagate Barracuda, Corsair CX750M Green, Deepcool SMARTER, Windows 10 Home.

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8 minutes ago, PhantomSoma said:

So I've been thinking about getting a completely new PC. With my current build, including a 1050 TI, an i5 - 4400 CPU and 8 GB of RAM, i find myself not being able to play AAA games at stable 60 fps if i don't turn the setting down to at least medium-low. I don't know if it has to do anything to do with the rest of my PC, so that's why i came here. I can provide the full list of hardware if needed, but I don't wanna get a completely new PC just because i only would have to upgrade like only the CPU or something that's just not worth getting everything else again for. But if I would need to upgrade a bunch of stuff, I could really need help with a new build. I don't know where to get my parts for a good price and most importantly not to get parts that are overkill. 

4790 and GTX1070 and you are good to go.  Not sure you want to spend that kind of money though.

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5 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

4790 and GTX1070 and you are good to go.  Not sure you want to spend that kind of money though.

I probably wont be able to buy those at the same time, but which one of the upgrades will have a bigger effect?

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I probably wont be able to buy those at the same time, but which one of the upgrades will have a bigger effect?

1070 for sure.  another stick of RAM (assuming you are using 1) will help too for dual channel.

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3 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

1070 for sure.  another stick of RAM (assuming you are using 1) will help too for dual channel.

Alright thanks for the fast reply, any tips for where to buy that stuff?

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1 minute ago, PhantomSoma said:

Alright thanks for the fast reply, any tips for where to buy that stuff?

4790 is no longer in production so ebay etc there.  They are $150-ish.  1070 from Amazon or Newegg if you are in the states.

 

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29 minutes ago, xriqn said:

Graphics aren't everything gameplay is. Don't complain that your machine "can't play AAA games" just because you have to turn the settings down. All hardware ends up needing settings turning down to play new games at some point.

Yeah, graphics don't mean anything. That's why I always play my games on a Windows XP laptop. The graphics and FPS don't matter. It's all about the gameplay sheeple!

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Do you have a budget? Maybe try selling the current PC? It might be worth it going with a newer system, newer technologies it brings!

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14 hours ago, Supportsneedlove said:

Yeah, graphics don't mean anything. That's why I always play my games on a Windows XP laptop. The graphics and FPS don't matter. It's all about the gameplay sheeple!

I think you just took my point to the extreme. My point was that just because your game won't play at ultra/high on your hardware at a playable framerate doesn't mean that your game is "unplayable", playable framerates can usually be found on hardware that's not the latest and greatest by turning settings down, anti aliasing is one of the top offenders for drastically reducing framerates on hardware that's not the best in the world.

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

Current Rig (Dominator II): 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3133 C15, AMD Ryzen 3 1200 at 4GHz, Coolermaster MasterLiquid Lite 120, ASRock B450M Pro4, AMD R9 280X, 120GB TCSunBow SSD, 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001-9YN166 HSD, Corsair CX750M Grey Label, Windows 10 Pro, 2x CoolerMaster MasterFan Pro 120, Thermaltake Versa H18 Tempered Glass.

 

Previous Rig (Black Magic): 8GB DDR3 1600, AMD FX6300 OC'd to 4.5GHz, Zalman CNPS5X Performa, Asus M5A78L-M PLUS /USB3, GTX 950 SC (former, it blew my PCIe lane so now on mobo graphics which is Radeon HD 3000 Series), 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200RPM HDD, 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001-9YN166 HDD (secondary), Corsair CX750M, Windows 8.1 Pro, 2x 120mm Red LED fans, Deepcool SMARTER case

 

My secondary rig (The Oldie): 4GB DDR2 800, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3GHz, Stock Dell Cooler, Foxconn 0RY007, AMD Radeon HD 5450, 250GB Samsung Spinpoint 7200RPM HDD, Antec HCG 400M 400W Semi Modular PSU, Windows 8.1 Pro, 80mm Cooler Master fan, Dell Inspiron 530 Case modded for better cable management. UPDATE: SPECS UPGRADED DUE TO CASEMOD, 8GB DDR2 800, AMD Phenom X4 9650, Zalman CNPS5X Performa, Biostar GF8200C M2+, AMD Radeon HD 7450 GDDR5 edition, Samsung Spinpoint 250GB 7200RPM HDD, Antec HCG 400M 400W Semi Modular PSU, Windows 8.1 Pro, 80mm Cooler Master fan, Dell Inspiron 530 Case modded for better cable management and support for non Dell boards.

 

Retired/Dead Rigs: The OG (retired) (First ever PC I used at 3 years old back in 2005) Current Specs: 2GB DDR2, Pentium M 770 @ 2.13GHz, 60GB IDE laptop HDD, ZorinOS 12 Ultimate x86. Originally 512mb DDR2, Pentium M 740 @ 1.73GHzm 60GB IDE laptop HDD and single boot XP Pro. The Craptop (dead), 2gb DDR3, Celeron n2840 @ 2.1GHz, 50GB eMMC chip, Windows 10 Pro. Nightrider (dead and cannibalized for Dominator II): Ryzen 3 1200, Gigabyte A320M HD2, 8GB DDR4, XFX Ghost Core Radeon HD 7770, 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 (2010), 3TB Seagate Barracuda, Corsair CX750M Green, Deepcool SMARTER, Windows 10 Home.

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8 hours ago, xriqn said:

I think you just took my point to the extreme. My point was that just because your game won't play at ultra/high on your hardware at a playable framerate doesn't mean that your game is "unplayable", playable framerates can usually be found on hardware that's not the latest and greatest by turning settings down, anti aliasing is one of the top offenders for drastically reducing framerates on hardware that's not the best in the world.

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