First Build

[MrFlame]

Hi my name is Flame and im from Portugal, im trying to build my first pc ever.

I was looking to spend around 1000 euros on it, on top off that ill need a monitor  with at least 24" and maybe 144hz refresh rate, this build build will be used has an gaming pc manly  with little to no use as an workstation.

If been looking and this is what i came up with:

CPU:I5-8400/I5-8600k

RAM:16GB 2x8gb 2400mhz or more (still dont know whitch one to grab)

GPU:NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (same as above dont know whitch one to grab)

MOTHERBARD:This one depends on the CPU that im going to be runing since one of them is unlocked and im want to be able to overcloking it 

PSU:Seasonic S12II 520W +80 Bronze/Corsair CX550M

COLLING:Corsair Hydro H110i Extreme

STORAGE:Samsung 850/860 Evo 

CASE:Kolink E-ATX Observatory Tempered Glass/ Old PC case that i have have.

 

Im also concerned with this things: in terms of fitment in the case;

can the parts work all together?;

is there anywhere i can save some money and buy something cheaper that will have an similar performance;

storage should i get and hdd for games?;

PSU is it strong enough?;

 

Thanks for reading and hope i make myself clear in what i want.

[Firewrath9]

You dont need such a powerful cooler,  a h60 or a h75 will suffice for the 8600k or even a dark rock pro or a noctua. I would get a 8400, a z370 mobo, a cryorig h7 and a 1070

[Fasauceome]

I recommend the CX power supply. It's an admirable budget PSU that really gets the job done. An i5 8600 (non-k) will do better than the 8400 because of better clock speeds, so getting that with a decent CPU cooler like the Cryorig C7 will keep your gaming performance smooth. Saving money by getting a b360 board will let you pick up a good 1060 model like a FTW from EVGA.

If you're good with saving money with used components, get a graphics card from ebay or something. They've taken a huge dip in price.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

You dont need such a powerful cooler,  a h60 or a h75 will suffice for the 8600k or even a dark rock pro or a noctua. I would get a 8400, a z370 mobo, a cryorig h7 and a 1070

Why put an 8400 in a z370? since he's only gaming, there are too many features that he wouldn't be able to take advantage of.

[Connor Price]

From experience, avoid the Seasonic S12ii. It's perfectly capable, but it's outdated and noisy and lacks certain protections newer PSU's have. I'd either go with the CX or spend extra on a much newer Seasonic unit or a good EVGA one if I were you. 

[jiyeon]

5 minutes ago, MrFlame said:

CPU:I5-8400/I5-8600k

RAM:16GB 2x8gb 2400mhz or more (still dont know whitch one to grab)

GPU:NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (same as above dont know whitch one to grab)

MOTHERBARD:This one depends on the CPU that im going to be runing since one of them is unlocked and im want to be able to overcloking it 

PSU:Seasonic S12II 520W +80 Bronze/Corsair CX550M

COLLING:Corsair Hydro H110i Extreme

STORAGE:Samsung 850/860 Evo 

CASE:Kolink E-ATX Observatory Tempered Glass/ Old PC case that i have have.

CPU: Get the 8600K
RAM: Corsair Vengeance ones are great

GPU: Asus Dual or ROG Strix 1060s are nice

Motherboard: Z370 either way, Aorus and Asus do nice boards

PSU: Corsair CX550M

Cooling: You don't need that much cooling honestly, but it's nice

Storage: 850 vs 860 isn't that much of a jump, either one is sufficient

Case: Your preference

[Firewrath9]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Why put an 8400 in a z370? since he's only gaming, there are too many features that he wouldn't be able to take advantage of.

Upgradeability. 20$ for the option to overclock in the future is a pretty good deal

[Firewrath9]

Just now, seoz said:

CPU: Get the 8600K
RAM: Corsair Vengeance ones are great

GPU: Asus Dual or ROG Strix 1060s are nice

Motherboard: Z370 either way, Aorus and Asus do nice boards

PSU: Corsair CX550M

Cooling: You don't need that much cooling honestly, but it's nice

Storage: 850 vs 860 isn't that much of a jump, either one is sufficient

Case: Your preference

Aorus is a lineup of products by gigabyte.

[jiyeon]

Just now, Firewrath9 said:

Aorus is a lineup of products by gigabyte.

I know, it's just I'm used to calling Aorus its own 'thing'. Especially since one of my favorite eSports teams is sponsored by Aorus.

[seon123]

For gaming, the 8400 will perform quite similarly to the 8600K, and it should keep up with even higher end cards than the 1060. 

For RAM, if you get a B360 board, get a kit that's 2666MHz or faster, with Z370, get a 3000MHz or faster kit. The brand doesn't really matter, as most will use the same dies anyway. Be it Hynix, Samsung or Micron dies. Intel platforms aren't that picky. 

Is there no way to get a 1070 or 1070 Ti? That would increase the performance by quite a lot. For the 1060 6GB, just get whatever card is the cheapest and has two fans. The 1060 is a 120W card, so the PCB and cooler doesn't matter much. Alternatively, the RX 580 4/8GB is a good alternative. It supports Freesync, which will save a significant amount when buying a monitor (compared to an equivalent G-sync one), and it will improve the experience. 

For the motherboard, get a board with the features you want. For performance and upgradability, just make sure it's a B360, H370, Q370 or Z370 board that's mATX, ATX or E-ATX, and with an M.2 slot and 4 RAM slots. 

Don't get the S12 II. It's ancient, loud and lacks protections. With up to a 1080, 450W is plenty, so don't spend the extra for just wattage. Typically, the higher wattage versions of the same PSU will also have a higher RPM fan, making the PSU noisier. The Formula Gold 450W is typically priced well. It's quiet, has a good fan and multi rail. If that's not possible, the Focus Gold 450W. If that's not possible, the Pure Power 10 400W. If that's not available, the Vengeance (any wattage is good). Finally, if that's not possible, the CX450M or CX550 (the CX550 has a nicer fan, better transient response and is just overall slightly better, but it's not modular).

For the 8400, you absolutely do not need a 280mm AiO. You could try the stock cooler, but if it's too loud, consider the M9i or Pure Rock Slim, for a cheap upgrade. 

There are several good SSDs out there. The MX500 is typically cheaper than the 850/860, and it's really good. Among the 850 and 860, just get the cheaper one. 250GB or more either way. 

[MrFlame]

15 hours ago, fasauceome said:

I recommend the CX power supply. It's an admirable budget PSU that really gets the job done. An i5 8600 (non-k) will do better than the 8400 because of better clock speeds, so getting that with a decent CPU cooler like the Cryorig C7 will keep your gaming performance smooth. Saving money by getting a b360 board will let you pick up a good 1060 model like a FTW from EVGA.

If you're good with saving money with used components, get a graphics card from ebay or something. They've taken a huge dip in price.

In portugal the price for the I5-8600 non k its too high actually they are only 20 euros apart, in terms off buying used components mostly are around the sale price so i prefer buying it brand new , now the mobo i was actually thinking of and z370 or mayve going for the x series mobos manly beacause i dont know if the b series can handle oc 

[MrFlame]

15 hours ago, seon123 said:

For gaming, the 8400 will perform quite similarly to the 8600K, and it should keep up with even higher end cards than the 1060. 

For RAM, if you get a B360 board, get a kit that's 2666MHz or faster, with Z370, get a 3000MHz or faster kit. The brand doesn't really matter, as most will use the same dies anyway. Be it Hynix, Samsung or Micron dies. Intel platforms aren't that picky. 

Is there no way to get a 1070 or 1070 Ti? That would increase the performance by quite a lot. For the 1060 6GB, just get whatever card is the cheapest and has two fans. The 1060 is a 120W card, so the PCB and cooler doesn't matter much. Alternatively, the RX 580 4/8GB is a good alternative. It supports Freesync, which will save a significant amount when buying a monitor (compared to an equivalent G-sync one), and it will improve the experience. 

For the motherboard, get a board with the features you want. For performance and upgradability, just make sure it's a B360, H370, Q370 or Z370 board that's mATX, ATX or E-ATX, and with an M.2 slot and 4 RAM slots. 

Don't get the S12 II. It's ancient, loud and lacks protections. With up to a 1080, 450W is plenty, so don't spend the extra for just wattage. Typically, the higher wattage versions of the same PSU will also have a higher RPM fan, making the PSU noisier. The Formula Gold 450W is typically priced well. It's quiet, has a good fan and multi rail. If that's not possible, the Focus Gold 450W. If that's not possible, the Pure Power 10 400W. If that's not available, the Vengeance (any wattage is good). Finally, if that's not possible, the CX450M or CX550 (the CX550 has a nicer fan, better transient response and is just overall slightly better, but it's not modular).

For the 8400, you absolutely do not need a 280mm AiO. You could try the stock cooler, but if it's too loud, consider the M9i or Pure Rock Slim, for a cheap upgrade. 

There are several good SSDs out there. The MX500 is typically cheaper than the 850/860, and it's really good. Among the 850 and 860, just get the cheaper one. 250GB or more either way. 

1070 and 1070 TI are to costly u could be spending half off the money on that basicly in terms of cooling i would like to go watercooling if im oc the CPU but if im going with the I5-8400 i would use a cheaper cooling system or maybe as u said the stock cooling only thing that im affraid its his performance when the cpu enter turbo problably its going to get hell of hot 

[Queen Chrysalis]

16 hours ago, fasauceome said:

I recommend the CX power supply. It's an admirable budget PSU that really gets the job done. An i5 8600 (non-k) will do better than the 8400 because of better clock speeds, so getting that with a decent CPU cooler like the Cryorig C7 will keep your gaming performance smooth. Saving money by getting a b360 board will let you pick up a good 1060 model like a FTW from EVGA.

If you're good with saving money with used components, get a graphics card from ebay or something. They've taken a huge dip in price.

The 8600 non-k's clock speed advantage isn't worth the price (look at the benchmark data, its pitifu compared to the 8400).  The 8600k is the only i5 worth buying now that the 2600 is available, and its value diminishes quickly considering its price.  The 8400 and 8600 are matched in single core workloads by the 2600, they are locked out of overclocking whereas the 2600 is unlocked and can be OC'd on a $50 board, not to mention it comes with a decent cooler and can use faster RAM.  I don't mean to sound like a fanboy, but zen+ really nuked the lower half of intel's lineup.

[MrFlame]

Ok guys after reading ur suggestions and doing some research on stores this what i came up with:

 

CPU:I5-8400

MOTHERBOARD:Asus Tuf B360-Pro Gaming (Wifi)

GPU:MSI 1060 6gb OCV1

RAM:G.SKILL Sniper X 2x8GB( this one im still not sure but looks like a good ram for its price still haven´t dig up much into it)

PSU:Corsair CX450M

MONITOR:AOC G2460VQ6 TN 24" FHD 16:9 75Hz FreeSync

STORAGE: Crucial MX500 250 GB

COOLING:Corsair H75/Stock cooling form the cpu (still thinking in this one)

CASE:Kolink E-ATX Observatory/or other(still looking around