Need help with PC upgrade

[xiVi]

Hi.

 

I'm looking to upgrade my current PC (I3 4170, R9 270, 8GB of DDR3) to an Ryzen 5 1600, R9 280X, 8GB of DDR4, with an ASUS PRIME B350-K MOBO.

I will buy the MOBO, the CPU and the RAM. The GPU I will get for free. Overall it should be around 400$.

 

Does it worth it? Looking to record gameplays and stream. I need games like Fortnite, CS:GO to run at minimum of 144 FPS at ALL times, with the lowest settings, as I have 144Hz Monitor.

 

Thanks whoever helps!

[xiVi]

Also I have 750W PSU so the GPU won't have any problem

[hconverse02]

Yup, maybe 16gb would be better though if you can afford it

[xiVi]

1 minute ago, hconverse02 said:

Yup, maybe 16gb would be better though if you can afford it

Can't really afford another 8GB of DDR4.

overall, does the mobo fit? i mean, would the CPU plug inside, and do you think it's a good investment for the budget I have

[Tabs]

3 minutes ago, xiVi said:

Can't really afford another 8GB of DDR4.

overall, does the mobo fit? i mean, would the CPU plug inside, and do you think it's a good investment for the budget I have

It should all fit. If you shop around, can you get the Ryzen 2600 instead? It's got higher ipc, higher clock speeds, and will still work with the motherboard you selected - though you may want to ask the retailer what bios version it ships with. The 2000 series ryzen chips launched with the same retail price of the 1000 series, though I'm unsure if you're getting a discount on your 1600.

 

Either way, for $400 it's a huge upgrade in cpu performance and a noticeable upgrade in graphics performance. 

[Qwertic]

13 minutes ago, xiVi said:

Can't really afford another 8GB of DDR4.

overall, does the mobo fit? i mean, would the CPU plug inside, and do you think it's a good investment for the budget I have

I think the Ryzen 5 1600 is a great cpu and even I wanted to upgrade my new I7 to this cpu. Remember this mobo is micro-ATX. What case do you have? chances are small but it might not fit (screw wise). Looking at your built it is a good built! The ryzen will be a hughe improvement to your system (comming from an i3) Out of all of your componants the  R9 280X wil be your holdback. It is a capable gpu but a ryzen cpu can really take heavyer load and i don't mean this in a bad way!

[xiVi]

18 minutes ago, Tabs said:

It should all fit. If you shop around, can you get the Ryzen 2600 instead? It's got higher ipc, higher clock speeds, and will still work with the motherboard you selected - though you may want to ask the retailer what bios version it ships with. The 2000 series ryzen chips launched with the same retail price of the 1000 series, though I'm unsure if you're getting a discount on your 1600.

 

Either way, for $400 it's a huge upgrade in cpu performance and a noticeable upgrade in graphics performance. 

Wow, 20$ more in the shop I'm planning to buy from and I can get the Ryzen 5 2600! I didn't even realize.

 

Ryzen 5 1600 vs the Ryzen 5 2600 - much of an upgrade? Does it worth it? Both are 6 cores 12 threads, what's the difference exactly?

Also are you sure the MOBO would fit? 

[xiVi]

17 minutes ago, Qwertic said:

I think the Ryzen 5 1600 is a great cpu and even I wanted to upgrade my new I7 to this cpu. Remember this mobo is micro-ATX. What case do you have? chances are small but it might not fit (screw wise). Looking at your built it is a good built! The ryzen will be a hughe improvement to your system (comming from an i3) Out of all of your componants the  R9 280X wil be your holdback. It is a capable gpu but a ryzen cpu can really take heavyer load and i don't mean this in a bad way!

 

I'm planning on to get the Ryzen 5 2600 as I haven't seen it's only 20$ more to get it from the shop I'm planning to buy from in my country!

The case has been made from an Israeli PC company called KSP. It's kinda big, I think it would be all right. Thank you for your input!!

 

[Motifator]

The 2600 makes way more sense when it costs a mere $20 more, it's the newer iteration of the 1600. Better performance, thermals etc. I own one and it's a good chip.

I'd stay away from the 280X if you can though. It's an old, rebadged card that neither performs amazingly nor is efficient. Better off aim for a 1060 / RX 570.

[Qwertic]

2 minutes ago, Motifator said:

The 2600 makes way more sense when it costs a mere $20 more, it's the newer iteration of the 1600. Better performance, thermals etc. I own one and it's a good chip.

I'd stay away from the 280X if you can though. It's an old, rebadged card that neither performs amazingly nor is efficient. Better off aim for a 1060 / RX 570.

Yep what you say is true (1050 ti works very good aswell) 

[Qwertic]

9 minutes ago, xiVi said:

Wow, 20$ more in the shop I'm planning to buy from and I can get the Ryzen 5 2600! I didn't even realize.

 

Ryzen 5 1600 vs the Ryzen 5 2600 - much of an upgrade? Does it worth it? Both are 6 cores 12 threads, what's the difference exactly?

Also are you sure the MOBO would fit? 

@Tabs? 

[Qwertic]

11 minutes ago, xiVi said:

Wow, 20$ more in the shop I'm planning to buy from and I can get the Ryzen 5 2600! I didn't even realize.

 

Ryzen 5 1600 vs the Ryzen 5 2600 - much of an upgrade? Does it worth it? Both are 6 cores 12 threads, what's the difference exactly?

Also are you sure the MOBO would fit? 

What cpu cooler are you thinking of buying?

[Tabs]

20 minutes ago, Qwertic said:

@Tabs? 

Yes, it will physically fit but as I suggested, check the bios version before buying on your motherboard if you can - These chips are physically compatible with 300 series amd boards, but they need a bios update to work with the new chips.

 

The performance uplift is noticeable - up to 15% at the same clock speed, with particular improvements in memory-sensitive applications. AMD did a lot of work optimising ryzen in such a small space of time.

 

As others have suggested, going from 270 to 280X is a bit of a bad upgrade had you been paying for it, but since you're getting it for free, it's still free performance. 

[xiVi]

17 hours ago, Tabs said:

Yes, it will physically fit but as I suggested, check the bios version before buying on your motherboard if you can - These chips are physically compatible with 300 series amd boards, but they need a bios update to work with the new chips.

 

The performance uplift is noticeable - up to 15% at the same clock speed, with particular improvements in memory-sensitive applications. AMD did a lot of work optimising ryzen in such a small space of time.

 

As others have suggested, going from 270 to 280X is a bit of a bad upgrade had you been paying for it, but since you're getting it for free, it's still free performance. 

 

But as I see from benchmarks it's better from the 1050 Ti and better from my card by 45%, which is a major upgrade, considering GPU prices right now I can't really afford one, also I don't aim to play Ultra on all games, just to stream and play on competitive settings for most FPS in Fortnite, CS:GO, etc, at least 144 frames. You think the GPU and the CPU would be capable of that? My brother had i5 2400 and that GPU and he said he's very satisfied with the card, he didn't have any problems playing Assassins Creed, the new Call of Duty, Batman, etc.

[Tabs]

38 minutes ago, xiVi said:

 

But as I see from benchmarks it's better from the 1050 Ti and better from my card by 45%, which is a major upgrade, considering GPU prices right now I can't really afford one, also I don't aim to play Ultra on all games, just to stream and play on competitive settings for most FPS in Fortnite, CS:GO, etc, at least 144 frames. You think the GPU and the CPU would be capable of that? My brother had i5 2400 and that GPU and he said he's very satisfied with the card, he didn't have any problems playing Assassins Creed, the new Call of Duty, Batman, etc.

 

If you use competitive settings, you should be easily able to push at least 100fps with that card, though probably higher. It's tough to find modern benchmarks of the card (let alone comparisons), but most not-entirely-direct comparisons I can make put the 1050Ti slightly ahead in actual gaming workloads. If you had an intel CPU you'd get higher fps when not streaming, but during streaming the 2600 will kick anything intel side to the curb in the same price range. Regardless, it will give you very nice performance uplift from your 270 mate.

 

I think you'll have a good experience with your new build. The Ryzen 2600 will thrash your brothers i5-2400 as well, at literally everything - it's nearly 40% faster at the same clock speed versus sandy bridge i7's (the i7 variant of your brothers cpu), and that's before you consider the 2 extra cores (or 8(!) extra threads) versus your brothers chip.

[xiVi]

2 hours ago, Tabs said:

 

If you use competitive settings, you should be easily able to push at least 100fps with that card, though probably higher. It's tough to find modern benchmarks of the card (let alone comparisons), but most not-entirely-direct comparisons I can make put the 1050Ti slightly ahead in actual gaming workloads. If you had an intel CPU you'd get higher fps when not streaming, but during streaming the 2600 will kick anything intel side to the curb in the same price range. Regardless, it will give you very nice performance uplift from your 270 mate.

 

I think you'll have a good experience with your new build. The Ryzen 2600 will thrash your brothers i5-2400 as well, at literally everything - it's nearly 40% faster at the same clock speed versus sandy bridge i7's (the i7 variant of your brothers cpu), and that's before you consider the 2 extra cores (or 8(!) extra threads) versus your brothers chip.

 

I appreciate your input very much. I'd prolly go with that CPU and the GPU!

So B350M-K with DDR4 and Ryzen 5 2600 should fit as a whole?

[Tabs]

6 minutes ago, xiVi said:

 

I appreciate your input very much. I'd prolly go with that CPU and the GPU!

So B350M-K with DDR4 and Ryzen 5 2600 should fit as a whole?

 

Absolutely, just please check your bios revision before you buy if you can - or ask the retailer if it has 2000 series compatibility out of the box. It would suck to buy your new parts and be unable to use them because the board needs an update first. Your board needs bios revision 3803 at least to work with that chip out of the box  (support page)

 

However, assuming the bios is fine... you're good to go. It'll perform really well, and I'm certain you'll be happy with it.

[xiVi]

1 hour ago, Tabs said:

 

Absolutely, just please check your bios revision before you buy if you can - or ask the retailer if it has 2000 series compatibility out of the box. It would suck to buy your new parts and be unable to use them because the board needs an update first. Your board needs bios revision 3803 at least to work with that chip out of the box  (support page)

 

However, assuming the bios is fine... you're good to go. It'll perform really well, and I'm certain you'll be happy with it.

Thank you!

Though the company I'm buying the parts from will install the components I've bought, do I need to worry? I mean, do I need to update it even if the PC shop will install it? I think they will make sure the PC is running smoothly, won't they?

[Tabs]

40 minutes ago, xiVi said:

Thank you!

Though the company I'm buying the parts from will install the components I've bought, do I need to worry? I mean, do I need to update it even if the PC shop will install it? I think they will make sure the PC is running smoothly, won't they?

Yes, they absolutely will - and if it needs an update they'll do it for you with another CPU first. Otherwise they're risking an unnecessary return for what takes them only seconds longer to do.

 

Enjoy your upgrade

[xiVi]

12 hours ago, Tabs said:

Yes, they absolutely will - and if it needs an update they'll do it for you with another CPU first. Otherwise they're risking an unnecessary return for what takes them only seconds longer to do.

 

Enjoy your upgrade

 

Thank you dude, I appreciate it!!