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[brob]

A silly waste of money that will not deliver top gaming performance.

 

New gpu, cpu and chipsets will be released later this year. I would suggest waiting.

[Gil Telvanni]

2 minutes ago, brob said:

A silly waste of money that will not deliver top gaming performance.

 

New gpu, cpu and chipsets will be released later this year. I would suggest waiting.

I don't want to wait until December.

And, why is not going to give me a good performance? I am gathering the latest components on the market.

If you think something should change, I accept suggestions, feel free to say, and I will consider all information that you can provide me

[brob]

I didn't say it wouldn't give good performance, just that it wouldn't be the best gaming performance.

 

If you are willing to overclock I would suggest an i7-8700K. One might even contemplate delidding to achieve the best oc.

 

I'd also suggest a single gpu. SLI is falling out of favor and fewer titles are providing support.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($346.96 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X APEX EATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($317.86 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4266 Memory  ($289.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($499.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: NVIDIA - Titan V 12GB Video Card  ($3599.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($178.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Titanium 750W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $5662.76
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 11:08 EDT-0400

[Gil Telvanni]

10 minutes ago, brob said:

I didn't say it wouldn't give good performance, just that it wouldn't be the best gaming performance.

 

If you are willing to overclock I would suggest an i7-8700K. One might even contemplate delidding to achieve the best oc.

 

I'd also suggest a single gpu. SLI is falling out of favor and fewer titles are providing support.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($346.96 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X APEX EATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($317.86 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-4266 Memory  ($289.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($499.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: NVIDIA - Titan V 12GB Video Card  ($3599.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($178.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Titanium 750W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $5662.76
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 11:08 EDT-0400

Thank you Brob, I appreciate this .

 But I don't understand one thing, how this system can be stronger than the one that I was planning?

And about the SLI, I still not decided about it, because when I watch benchmarks of 2x TITAN Xp's, the results are wonderful! better than a single TITAN V, but there are so many persons saying that SLI doesn't worth it, like you said right now.. I am very confused .

[Crazycatman]

1 hour ago, Gil Telvanni said:

Thank you Brob, I appreciate this .

 But I don't understand one thing, how this system can be stronger than the one that I was planning?

And about the SLI, I still not decided about it, because when I watch benchmarks of 2x TITAN Xp's, the results are wonderful! better than a single TITAN V, but there are so many persons saying that SLI doesn't worth it, like you said right now.. I am very confused .

The M.2 is under the cover at the bottom. The cover is a heat-sink. You can do 16x/16x so SLI Titan XP's that's the best SLI you can get with 2 GPU's. So in games that don't have SLI support, you aren't hurting the performance, as with my i7-7700k it's only a 16x lane CPU. So say I add my 1060 and my GTS 250 (Yes I've done this before ) it will do 8x/8x, decreasing performance (also the GTS will do that anyways, just wanted to see) each GPU you add makes less lanes available so they split it in half.

Also I was thinking you would say that case! That case is huge!

[Gil Telvanni]

8 minutes ago, Crazycatman said:

The M.2 is under the cover at the bottom. The cover is a heat-sink. You can do 16x/16x so SLI Titan XP's that's the best SLI you can get with 2 GPU's. So in games that don't have SLI support, you aren't hurting the performance, as with my i7-7700k it's only a 16x lane CPU. So say I add my 1060 and my GTS 250 (Yes I've done this before ) it will do 8x/8x, decreasing performance (also the GTS will do that anyways, just wanted to see) each GPU you add makes less lanes available so they split it in half.

Also I was thinking you would say that case! That case is huge!

Ok I lost myself  I can do 16x/16x .. what this means!? is it good for performance or bad!?

[Crazycatman]

27 minutes ago, Gil Telvanni said:

Ok I lost myself  I can do 16x/16x .. what this means!? is it good for performance or bad!?

Means both GPU's run at full performance! any more GPU's equals less power per GPU. 16x is the amount of lanes it has, a normal GPU has 16x. a CPU can support lanes. Mine only supports 16 lanes, so I don't want a SLI setup. The CPU you want has 44 Lanes. This means more stuff on the motherboard you can plug in. also your top 2 slots are both 16x, and some motherboards such as mine are 16x top and 8x below. Because in SLI for LGA1151 (Kaby lake) no CPU's support more Lanes. If I plug my 1060 in the 8x it will run 8x, because the motherboard only supports 16x in the first slot.

[Gil Telvanni]

5 hours ago, Crazycatman said:

Means both GPU's run at full performance! any more GPU's equals less power per GPU. 16x is the amount of lanes it has, a normal GPU has 16x. a CPU can support lanes. Mine only supports 16 lanes, so I don't want a SLI setup. The CPU you want has 44 Lanes. This means more stuff on the motherboard you can plug in. also your top 2 slots are both 16x, and some motherboards such as mine are 16x top and 8x below. Because in SLI for LGA1151 (Kaby lake) no CPU's support more Lanes. If I plug my 1060 in the 8x it will run 8x, because the motherboard only supports 16x in the first slot.

Okay Crazycatman! this is the final result of how it get so far, tell me what you think:

Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X299-DELUXE
Processor: Intel Core I9-7980XE Extreme Edition Processor 
Video Card: 2-Way SLI 2x NVIDIA TITAN Xp & Nvidia SLI Bridge
RAM Memory: G.SKILL 64GB 8x8GB 4266Mhz
Storage Device: WD Black 4TB 7200 RPM & Samsung 960 PRO 1TB
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600W PLATINUM
Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO 360mm
Thermal Paste: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut

Other Components:
PC Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II 25th ANNIVERSARY Edition
Monitor:ASUS Predator XB321HK 4k
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Chroma V2 Yellow Switch
Mouse: Razer Lancehead & Razer Firefly
Headset: Razer ManO'War
UPS : APC SMX3000RMLV2U X 3000VA

Its costing a total of, +/- 16000 Dollars, more expensive then it would normally be at the US, but I am from Brazil, so I am having to import everything 

[brob]

4 hours ago, Gil Telvanni said:

Thank you Brob, I appreciate this .

 But I don't understand one thing, how this system can be stronger than the one that I was planning?

And about the SLI, I still not decided about it, because when I watch benchmarks of 2x TITAN Xp's, the results are wonderful! better than a single TITAN V, but there are so many persons saying that SLI doesn't worth it, like you said right now.. I am very confused .

The system I suggested should be able to overclock to 5GHz or higher. In most titles, this will mean better gaming performance than an overclocked i9-7980 XE simply because most games use less than 7 cores and faster cores win out.

 

Sure SLI Titan X outperform a single Titan V in titles that support SLI. If most of the games being played support SLI, then go with two Titan X. The motherboard I suggested can handle it. You might consider going with something like a GTX 1080 Ti or a single Titan X for a bit until the next generation of Geforce gpu are announced. You can then reevaluate gpu options.

[Gil Telvanni]

3 minutes ago, brob said:

The system I suggested should be able to overclock to 5GHz or higher. In most titles, this will mean better gaming performance than an overclocked i9-7980 XE simply because most games use less than 7 cores and faster cores win out.

 

Sure SLI Titan X outperform a single Titan Z in titles that support SLI. If most of the games being played support SLI, then go with two Titan X. The motherboard I suggested can handle it. You might consider going with something like a GTX 1080 Ti or a single Titan X for a bit until the next generation of Geforce gpu are announced. You can then reevaluate gpu options.

I'd never considered a titan z, the options were 1x TITAN V or 2x TITAN Xp.

ps. check my reply to Crazycatman, about the system I was planning, i've changed a lot, he helped me choose the right pieces.

[brob]

3 minutes ago, Gil Telvanni said:

I'd never considered a titan z, the options were 1x TITAN V or 2x TITAN Xp.

ps. check my reply to Crazycatman, about the system I was planning, i've changed a lot, he helped me choose the right pieces.

Sorry, typo. Meant Titan V

[Gil Telvanni]

1 minute ago, brob said:

Sorry, typo. Meant Titan V

What you mean with ``titles that support SLI`` if I play a Game that doesn`t ``support`` SLI the Game will not work? or it will not recognize the other GPU?

[brob]

1 minute ago, Gil Telvanni said:

What you mean with ``titles that support SLI`` if I play a Game that doesn`t ``support`` SLI the Game will not work? or it will not recognize the other GPU?

What I mean is that if a game does not support SLI, there is no benefit to having SLI. Not all titles support SLI.

[Gil Telvanni]

18 hours ago, brob said:

What I mean is that if a game does not support SLI, there is no benefit to having SLI. Not all titles support SLI.

There is no benefit, but the Games will still running on a single Card? that would not be a problem, considering that the TITAN Xp is stronger than a 1080Ti, but... as TITAN V is an option and is stronger than any other video card as a single card obviously its better to have her!

and again I end up with DOUBT! arrrrrrgggg... should I do SLI or NOT!?

EDITED - 

Ok I am writing this after make the question above, I have watched benchmarks, contacted the Nvidia support, and I get on a conclusion..

I was worried about do SLI, and not be able to play Games that doesn't support SLI, or face Micro Stuttering, and other issues, but after talk to one of Nvidia's agent, they assured me that there will be no micro stuttering with a TITAN Xp, that SLI works great, I asked about titles that doesn't support, and they said that if a Game doesn't support SLI I can simply disable the SLI on Nivida Panel, and that even one single TITAN Xp is more than capable of handle any Game on the industry, even at 4k..

So I think SLI will worth it, because If I face a Game that doesn't support SLI, I can simply disable it and run the Game, considering that the TITAN Xp is the 2º stronger video card on the market, I am sure that even just one will be able to handle with Games that doesn't support SLI, and when I launch a  Game that offers support, the results will be great! with SLI I will be secure to play any Game at 4k, and without the support for SLI, well.. the TITAN Xp as I said is extremely powerful, she will take care of any Game that doesn't support SLI.

And.. I think that`s it... thank you @brob for helping me, and SPECIAL thanks to Crazycatman, if was not for him, I would have make a really BAD deal, special thanks for you @Crazycatman, I can`t describe how you helped me..

I think that`s the end of the topic, was a pleasure to meet you guys I thank you all with all my heart 

Bye...for now 

-- Gil


ps. you have a beautiful kitty Crazycatman. MEOW! lol!

[Crazycatman]

On 5/11/2018 at 3:55 PM, Gil Telvanni said:

There is no benefit, but the Games will still running on a single Card? that would not be a problem, considering that the TITAN Xp is stronger than a 1080Ti, but... as TITAN V is an option and is stronger than any other video card as a single card obviously its better to have her!

and again I end up with DOUBT! arrrrrrgggg... should I do SLI or NOT!?

EDITED - 

Ok I am writing this after make the question above, I have watched benchmarks, contacted the Nvidia support, and I get on a conclusion..

I was worried about do SLI, and not be able to play Games that doesn't support SLI, or face Micro Stuttering, and other issues, but after talk to one of Nvidia's agent, they assured me that there will be no micro stuttering with a TITAN Xp, that SLI works great, I asked about titles that doesn't support, and they said that if a Game doesn't support SLI I can simply disable the SLI on Nivida Panel, and that even one single TITAN Xp is more than capable of handle any Game on the industry, even at 4k..

So I think SLI will worth it, because If I face a Game that doesn't support SLI, I can simply disable it and run the Game, considering that the TITAN Xp is the 2º stronger video card on the market, I am sure that even just one will be able to handle with Games that doesn't support SLI, and when I launch a  Game that offers support, the results will be great! with SLI I will be secure to play any Game at 4k, and without the support for SLI, well.. the TITAN Xp as I said is extremely powerful, she will take care of any Game that doesn't support SLI.

And.. I think that`s it... thank you @brob for helping me, and SPECIAL thanks to Crazycatman, if was not for him, I would have make a really BAD deal, special thanks for you @Crazycatman, I can`t describe how you helped me..

I think that`s the end of the topic, was a pleasure to meet you guys I thank you all with all my heart 

Bye...for now 

-- Gil


ps. you have a beautiful kitty Crazycatman. MEOW! lol!

Thank you! And no problem, I also learned things along the way too. Enjoy and that PC will be amazing! Also *tisk tisk* on that import tax.

[thanatos1]

Hi Gil - 

 

I’m in the midst of building my system, actually gathering the components and we’re building a very similar system.

 

Check out - 

 

 

This should so you a number of things you are wondering about.

 

Good luck!!

 

Doug

[Dedayog]

I get the feeling like there's a "if you only send me $500, I'll send you my extra Titan V" email coming to Crazycatman

 

Fantastic thread tho.  Can't tell if it's a troll or just a fun joke.