Two OC questions please help

[Nogghan]

One,i have an Asus prime z370-P motherboard, would getting a more premium board help me achieve better overclocks or at least more stable past 5.3ghz And 1.4vcore 

 

And two do I need to have some kind of AVX offset or LLC if my system is stable without it?

[lavablade02]

I can't really help you much with this, but I doubt it is worth it. Yes there are motherboards for hardcore overclocking, but they are expensive and most likely not worth it. If money is no object they do exist, but the issue is probably with the CPU.

[Jurrunio]

1. Yes, but you need to win the silicon lottery and delid the CPU first.

 

2. Increasing AVX offset causes instability as it increases the clock speed when running tasks that uses AVX instruction set. Games arent one of them, so might as well leave it alone.

 

LLC isnt necessary, though careful use can lower voltage at idle to save some power.

[TahoeDust]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

2. Increasing AVX offset causes instability as it increases the clock speed when running tasks that uses AVX instruction set. Games arent one of them, so might as well leave it alone.

Increasing the AVX offset actually lowers the clock speed whil running AVX instruction sets.  This is very usefull to control temps during AVX use, as AVX require additional current and can heat things up significantly.  You would be surprised in some of the things that are starting to use AVX.

[Nogghan]

9 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

1. Yes, but you need to win the silicon lottery and delid the CPU first.

 

2. Increasing AVX offset causes instability as it increases the clock speed when running tasks that uses AVX instruction set. Games arent one of them, so might as well leave it alone.

 

LLC isnt necessary, though careful use can lower voltage at idle to save some power.

i have already won the lottery those are the specs ive ran my 8600k at after deliding, so would investing in a better board really help me maybe hit 5.4 or even 5.5 assuming thermals are okay? i havent pushed over 1.415 vcore to the chip yet either

[Nogghan]

6 hours ago, TahoeDust said:

Increasing the AVX offset actually lowers the clock speed whil running AVX instruction sets.  This is very usefull to control temps during AVX use, as AVX require additional current and can heat things up significantly.  You would be surprised in some of the things that are starting to use AVX.

so then is it worth it to apply something like a 2 or 3 avx offset so my clocks drop to 4.8 or 4.7 in avx? is it really just for power and thermal headroom? because i have that 

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, Nogghan said:

i have already won the lottery those are the specs ive ran my 8600k at after deliding, so would investing in a better board really help me maybe hit 5.4 or even 5.5 assuming thermals are okay?

Yes. I've seen M10 Apex helping loser chips that wont do 5GHz reach it. It should help the winners as well.

 

Of course, there are also extra options on these mobo that could potentially allow more overclock