Upgrading CPU-MOBO-RAMS

[Panagiotis Kara]

Hello guys,

 

I'm willing to upgrade my pc and I am searching for a good combo of CPU-MOBO-RAM.

 

I have already purchased a GTX 1080 GPU so I also need to upgrade the rest parts as well for a completely new rig. 

 

I'm using my pc for normal daily use (movies, browsing etc) and I also work on photoshop periodically or even sometimes I work on some videos as well. Rendering is not my priority but I do care about it as well. Gaming of course is a thing I do care even more after purchasing the gtx1080 but so far it bottlenecks with my current old cpu. I would like to be able to play at 60fps on ultra high settings at 1080p and why not to have a fair fps rate at 4k as well.

 

Can you suggest me any combo ? Should I go with intel or ryzen? I was thinking of buying the new i5 8600k with an asus prime z370 mobo or maybe the gigabyte aorus ultra game series. What do you think? And also, is it better to go with a 6core i5 or with a 4core i7 for example?

 

Need your advices and suggestions! Thank you in advance

[Technomancer__]

Since you like rendering + you won't be gaming on high refresh rate I whould say go with ryzen

 

Ego ime pale re panakoti

 

[Technomancer__]

What's your budget?

[Panagiotis Kara]

3 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

What's your budget?

Around 250-300€ for CPU, 150-200€ for MOBO and for RAM I have no idea... I would like to take a pair with at least 3000mhz or more I guess... but if I go for 16GB it would be very expensive. Will I be ok with 8gb ram at 3000+ mhz? And also is it possible to upgrade to 16gb in the future adding another pair of 8gb? Whats the difference between having 16gb (2x8gb) or 16gb (4x4) ? I think at the moment I could go for 150-200€ maximum for RAM. 

 

Gia sou file!

[Technomancer__]

CPU

Get a  r7 1700 or r 5 1600. The 1700 won't do any better than 1600 in gaming but it helps in rendering, vms, doing stuff while you game or just running lots of shit simultaneously.

MOBO

if you plan to sli in the future get an x370 chipset mobo like the Asus prime x370 - pro (I think its worth it because its not much more than b350)

Go b350 if you know you won't sli and don't need the extra features of x370. A good mobo is the Asus prime b350 - plus

 

Btw here's a comparison https://www.asus.com/us/Product-Compare/ (add them yourself)

For example

x370 sli, 8 sata, 4 fan headers

B350 no sli, 6 data, 2 fan headers

 

RAM

8gb is fine for gaming.

Get a single 8gb stick. So you can have 2 when you get the other one.

 

Having 4 can impact some performance + if you have 2x8 you can upgrade to 4x8 if you ever need it and you will have 32gb

[Panagiotis Kara]

1 hour ago, Ethocreeper said:

The 1700 won't do any better than 1600 in gaming but it helps in rendering

Yeah but gaming is more important than rendering to me. I mean, I do both but mostly gaming. Rendering is not priority, I just want to don't have any serious issues when I have to render. 

 

My average daily usage of my pc is mostly for watching movies in HQ, browsing on the web and using programs like Microsoft Office, Photoshop and Lightroom. I want the best possible performance and multitasking between all the above.

Secondly, I play a lot of games (only single player) and having a 55'' 4K TV along with a gtx 1080GPU, I want to be able to play new generation games in the highest possible settings having stable 60fps. I want to make this happen for 1080p gaming and why not for 4K as well with just a little adjustment in the game settings maybe. I read on the web that i5 would be way better in this case in comparison with ryzen.

 

Last in line priority is rendering. Sometimes I use Premiere and After Effects for making short clips but that's all, it might be less than 5-6 times in a year. 

[Technomancer__]

34 minutes ago, Panagiotis Kara said:

Yeah but gaming is more important than rendering to me. I mean, I do both but mostly gaming. Rendering is not priority, I just want to don't have any serious issues when I have to render. 

 

My average daily usage of my pc is mostly for watching movies in HQ, browsing on the web and using programs like Microsoft Office, Photoshop and Lightroom. I want the best possible performance and multitasking between all the above.

Secondly, I play a lot of games (only single player) and having a 55'' 4K TV along with a gtx 1080GPU, I want to be able to play new generation games in the highest possible settings having stable 60fps. I want to make this happen for 1080p gaming and why not for 4K as well with just a little adjustment in the game settings maybe. I read on the web that i5 would be way better in this case in comparison with ryzen.

 

Last in line priority is rendering. Sometimes I use Premiere and After Effects for making short clips but that's all, it might be less than 5-6 times in a year. 

You can get the 1600 then and save the leftover money for a GPU in the future. 

 

The CPU ''sketches" the frames and the GPU "colors" them.

It doesn't matter if its 480p or 16k the CPU won't have to work more but the GPU does. That's why people say that at higher resolutions GPU is the bottleneck.

 

If you wont high refresh rate Intel is the way to go but for 60 htz I whould say go with amd so you can get a cheaper CPU + mobo. CPU about 200 + 80 mobo

[Panagiotis Kara]

2 hours ago, Ethocreeper said:

You can get the 1600 then and save the leftover money for a GPU in the future. 

 

The CPU ''sketches" the frames and the GPU "colors" them.

It doesn't matter if its 480p or 16k the CPU won't have to work more but the GPU does. That's why people say that at higher resolutions GPU is the bottleneck.

 

If you wont high refresh rate Intel is the way to go but for 60 htz I whould say go with amd so you can get a cheaper CPU + mobo. CPU about 200 + 80 mobo

I thought that if you play 1080p for example, then the cpu needs to work more. if you try higher resolution then the pressure goes to the gpu and the cpu works better. Thats why most of the people told me to prefer playing in 4k than 1080p. Because currently i have a poor cpu with a hi-end gpu.

 

If the game settings and quality doesnt affect the cpu then it makes sense to go with ryzen. I mean that if ryzen 1600 could easily handle any game in any resolution in ultra high settings at 60fps then there is no need to go with intel and I could surely save some money. Is it like this?

 

And what happens outside the gaming perspective? In multitasking, productivity etc will ryzen 1600 be better tham the new i5 8600k? 

[Technomancer__]

39 minutes ago, Panagiotis Kara said:

I thought that if you play 1080p for example, then the cpu needs to work more. if you try higher resolution then the pressure goes to the gpu and the cpu works better. Thats why most of the people told me to prefer playing in 4k than 1080p. Because currently i have a poor cpu with a hi-end gpu.

 

If the game settings and quality doesnt affect the cpu then it makes sense to go with ryzen. I mean that if ryzen 1600 could easily handle any game in any resolution in ultra high settings at 60fps then there is no need to go with intel and I could surely save some money. Is it like this?

 

And what happens outside the gaming perspective? In multitasking, productivity etc will ryzen 1600 be better tham the new i5 8600k? 

Some settings affect CPU like how much shit is on your screen. That's why ashes needs alot of CPU.

 

Better at multitasking. Yea the 1600 wins

 

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