Gtx 1080 stutter?

[Kranolf]

Hey guys!

 

I have recently purchased a Gigabyte gtx 1080 windforce GPU from newegg in the US. 

First of all, I am from Europe, Hungary and I asked someone who went to the US to bring the card to me. I have to tell that the card was purchased in the US since here in Hungary the price is 1.5x more, not talking about the average wages here which are around 500$/month. 

I was extremely happy to have the card, and couldn’t wait to install it. When I took out of the package a small screw fell out, didn’t know it’s spot but then realised it was right from the middle of it, and I just put it back there.

 

After that, I completely reinstalled windows, put the card in, and installed nvidia drivers. All seemed okay, until I installed different games to test out the new card. Started with Watch Dogs 2, which couldn’t run on ultra settings with a stable 60 fps, always dropped and the most annoying thing was the stutter. When driving, running, the game just stopped for 0.2 sec then behave normally, sometimes 70 FPS, sometimes 35 FPS. Then I switched to High resolution, stutter still happened. Then also played some Overwatch and still had stutters, then League of Legends which HAD STUTTERS as well, sometimes dropping to 70 FPS from 180. I am playing on 1080p, not 2k or 4k !!!!

 

I also checked the status of the card and cpu, was using msi afterburner (but have the gigabyte program as well) and it showed that there were some points while playing, when BOTH , CPU & GPU were at 100% usage. Is that normal?

 

I posted this on many forums, facebook groups, since it’s extremely frustrating to have this issue. 

 

I went on, reboot in safemode, uninstalled nvidia drivers, then reinstalled them. Also installed some Motherboard drivers but I really don’t understand which ones should be installed. And yes nvidia drivers was the latest one from their website.

So basically, my build is:
-Motherboard Gigabyte H81M-S2H
-CPU intel i5 4460
-16 gb DDR3 RAM
-550W PSU
-gigabyte gtx 1080 windforce

 

So my question is:
I know my CPU is bottlenecking my GPU a little, but should it be this much? I am planning on upgrading later on, to a new mobo and cpu, but I thought I could run anything on ultra, smoothly on 1080p especially. I had no stutters with my previous gtx950 (lower settings ofc).

Is there any way to fix this? Since I am from Europe I can not send it back to NA, or it would be very difficult and pricy.

 

Also is there a way to 100% make sure it’s not the GPU that causes this issue? 

 

Please help me out!?

 

Thank you very much in advance!

[Blackhole890]

Firstly try lowering to high or maybe to mid range graphics so you will see if you still get sttuter in games or not. 

 

Secondly, watch dogs is cpu bound so its bottlenecking your cpu to your gpu probably and LoL is not optimised for high end cards like yours because its an old game (but that doesnt matter about stuttering but what i wanted to say is that even a 1060 works better on lol than a 1080)

[DocSwag]

For watch dogs 2 at least if makes sense to be CPU but in the other two titles it would be fine.

 

Could you monitor CPU and gpu usage while gaming? See if gpu usage ever drops below 95-100%, and how often CPU usage gets above 80-90%

[Kranolf]

8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

For watch dogs 2 at least if makes sense to be CPU but in the other two titles it would be fine.

 

Could you monitor CPU and gpu usage while gaming? See if gpu usage ever drops below 95-100%, and how often CPU usage gets above 80-90%

CPU usage I believe is always high, u mean GPU right?

 

Also, I enabled the onscreen display on msi afterburn, but it did not show up, what else can I try to monitor it?

[DocSwag]

Just now, Kranolf said:

CPU usage I believe is always high, u mean GPU right?

 

Also, I enabled the onscreen display on msi afterburn, but it did not show up, what else can I try to monitor it?

I want to check to see what CPU and gpu usage is at, if the CPU usage is too high it might be CPU bottlenecking; if gpu usage is too low then something is bottlenecking it.

 

You could try using evga precision. Afterburner also has a place in there where you can log the CPU and gpu usage, if you can find that you could send me the logs.

[Kranolf]

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I want to check to see what CPU and gpu usage is at, if the CPU usage is too high it might be CPU bottlenecking; if gpu usage is too low then something is bottlenecking it.

 

You could try using evga precision. Afterburner also has a place in there where you can log the CPU and gpu usage, if you can find that you could send me the logs.

Will try once I get home. Thank you!

[Kranolf]

I believe it is this one. First is Watch Dogs 2, it was on ULTRA. No extra textures, and the average FPS was 45, but sometimes was 30, and very rarely 60.

 

Second is PUBG. Check how GPU is low % first, then after a while, suddenly it goes to 100% without a reason, nothing even happened in the game.

 

What the hell is this

HardwareMonitoring.hml

[Kranolf]

1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

I want to check to see what CPU and gpu usage is at, if the CPU usage is too high it might be CPU bottlenecking; if gpu usage is too low then something is bottlenecking it.

 

You could try using evga precision. Afterburner also has a place in there where you can log the CPU and gpu usage, if you can find that you could send me the logs.

I believe it is this one. First is Watch Dogs 2, it was on ULTRA. No extra textures, and the average FPS was 45, but sometimes was 30, and very rarely 60.

 

Second is PUBG. Check how GPU is low % first, then after a while, suddenly it goes to 100% without a reason, nothing even happened in the game.

 

What the hell is this 

HardwareMonitoring.hml

[Mick Naughty]

Game or the CPU. If you run a heaven benchmark other valley it would tell you if it's The card. 

 

Cpu shouldnt be at 100 in games. 

[Kranolf]

52 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Game or the CPU. If you run a heaven benchmark other valley it would tell you if it's The card. 

 

Cpu shouldnt be at 100 in games. 

Umm, did you see the Hardware monitoring I posted before? on PUBG sometimes my CPU is 100%, and GPU is like 70%, then it completely switches meaning GPU is 100% and CPU is like 80%. The hell?! 

 

Also why shouldn't be CPU at 100 in games, if it's a 4th generation older CPU. I'm sure it doesn't handle games too well, and for some really demanding games it's possible to have 100%. The only annoying thing is the stutter.

[Mick Naughty]

5 minutes ago, Kranolf said:

Umm, did you see the Hardware monitoring I posted before? on PUBG sometimes my CPU is 100%, and GPU is like 70%, then it completely switches meaning GPU is 100% and CPU is like 80%. The hell?! 

 

Also why shouldn't be CPU at 100 in games, if it's a 4th generation older CPU. I'm sure it doesn't handle games too well, and for some really demanding games it's possible to have 100%. The only annoying thing is the stutter.

Anything is possible but it should be at 100, doesn't matter what the gpu is doing. 4th gen has nothing to do with it. I have a 4th gen and it does just fine. age isn't everything. coding and hardware is what matters.

[Steemax]

9 hours ago, Kranolf said:

I went on, reboot in safemode, uninstalled nvidia drivers, then reinstalled them. Also installed some Motherboard drivers but I really don’t understand which ones should be installed. And yes nvidia drivers was the latest one from their website.

So basically, my build is:
-Motherboard Gigabyte H81M-S2H
-CPU intel i5 4460
-16 gb DDR3 RAM
-550W PSU
-gigabyte gtx 1080 windforce

 

 

I suspect this is the issue. Latest Nvidia drivers has a stuttering plague on a lot of peoples comps including mine. I rolled back my drivers and all was dandy again.

 

Try to find nVidia driver version 378.92 and try again. 

 

It's still worth mentioning the i5 you have is not doing any favors for the 1080ti

[Mat_95]

9 minutes ago, Steemax said:

I suspect this is the issue. Latest Nvidia drivers has a stuttering plague on a lot of peoples comps including mine. I rolled back my drivers and all was dandy again.

 

Try to find nVidia driver version 378.92 and try again. 

 

It's still worth mentioning the i5 you have is not doing any favors for the 1080ti

I did wonder why my 1070 was acting up a little since the latest drivers, thanks! 

[Kranolf]

21 minutes ago, Steemax said:

I suspect this is the issue. Latest Nvidia drivers has a stuttering plague on a lot of peoples comps including mine. I rolled back my drivers and all was dandy again.

 

Try to find nVidia driver version 378.92 and try again. 

 

It's still worth mentioning the i5 you have is not doing any favors for the 1080ti

Umm, yea probably. My gtx950 seemed to be better than this. Like seriously. I just tried PUBG on MEDIUM (!!!!) settings, and still got fuckin shitty FPS, stuttering, lag, screen tearing.... same on other games as well.

[Kranolf]

Up

[Steemax]

11 hours ago, Kranolf said:

Up

Did you try my recommendation? 

[Kranolf]

1 hour ago, Steemax said:

Did you try my recommendation? 

Oh right, I forgot to do that, but how can I find that? Not sure if that would work. By stutter do you mean that the game stops for a really really short time, then it just goes on? This doesn’t necessarily mean FPS dropy

 

Also another annoying issue is that screen tearing thing (i think thats what it is) when moving the mouse to look around I see those horizontal lines really intensively.

[Steemax]

6 minutes ago, Kranolf said:

Oh right, I forgot to do that, but how can I find that? Not sure if that would work. By stutter do you mean that the game stops for a really really short time, then it just goes on? This doesn’t necessarily mean FPS dropy

 

Also another annoying issue is that screen tearing thing (i think thats what it is) when moving the mouse to look around I see those horizontal lines really intensively.

Here you go, just a google search: 

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/116344/en-us

Make sure to uninstall your current drivers completely first. 

Yeah, it's for stuttering as you explained not fps drop like freeze continue in very short increments. 

[Kranolf]

2 hours ago, Steemax said:

Here you go, just a google search: 

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/116344/en-us

Make sure to uninstall your current drivers completely first. 

Yeah, it's for stuttering as you explained not fps drop like freeze continue in very short increments. 

Yea exactly. Also note that I do not have a ti, just a simple Gigabyte 1080 windforce. Not even G1 gaming, but I guess that doesn’t really matter anyways.

 

P.S.: Once I get home on Sunday I will definitely try your option!

[Steemax]

10 minutes ago, Kranolf said:

Yea exactly. Also note that I do not have a ti, just a simple Gigabyte 1080 windforce. Not even G1 gaming, but I guess that doesn’t really matter anyways.

 

P.S.: Once I get home on Sunday I will definitely try your option!

Yeah Ti or not won't matter. This issue effected all cards. 

Good luck let me know how it goes.

[habbasi]

Something some people on here haven't asked before, are you sure your PSU is good? I mean, it has enough wattage. Install a voltage monitor like HWmonitor and monitor your 12V rail voltage, see if it drops. If it is, your PSU may be bad. I've seen stutters on video cards before when the power wasn't enough for them.

[Mick Naughty]

If it didn't have enough power the system wouldn't be on.

[Kranolf]

9 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

If it didn't have enough power the system wouldn't be on.

That’s what i was thinking too. But I am not an expert he may be also right.  

 

There are so many opinions that I don’t know which one is true. Someone says my CPU is not good, someone says my monitor isn’t, someone that the latest drivers are bad, there are just too many. I’d love to know which one is true so I can spend money on the one that will 100% fix the issue.

[sof006]

Sounds like a CPU bottleneck. That CPU you have isn't that powerful. Might want to consider upgrading it.

[Redwood Tech.]

5 minutes ago, Kranolf said:

That’s what i was thinking too. But I am not an expert he may be also right.  

 

There are so many opinions that I don’t know which one is true. Someone says my CPU is not good, someone says my monitor isn’t, someone that the latest drivers are bad, there are just too many. I’d love to know which one is true so I can spend money on the one that will 100% fix the issue.

     If your GPU and CPU are at 100% usage, your GPU is putting stress on your CPU for graphics. CPUs are like Swiss army knifes, very good at lots of tastes, and GPUs like surgical knives, for a very specific task. This really should not be happening with a high-end graphics card, so maybe the component was damaged? This could also very much be a CPU bottleneck, consider upgrading that and the motherboard with the correct drivers.