Gaming / Everyday Build

[THFourteen]

Building this for a friend, basically for gaming, 1080p for now but probably a 4K tv at some point (he can't stretch to the 1080Ti sadly)

 

Any glaring faults? I don't normally build to budget so I'm just guessing here :-D

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zt3vXH

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zt3vXH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zt3vXH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£191.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£90.95 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£108.60 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£139.96 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card  (£464.40 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case  (£55.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.10 @ Alza) 
Total: £1159.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-26 20:00 BST+0100

[PCGuy_5960]

Don't get a 7600K! Get a Ryzen 5 1600 with a B350 board and 3000MHz RAM, it's much better

[THFourteen]

12 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Don't get a 7600K! Get a Ryzen 5 1600 with a B350 board and 3000MHz RAM, it's much better

So the best I can do with the 1600X (unless you actually meant 1600) is £30 more expensive

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qMTqjc

 

What are we talking about here benefits wise? He's already moaning about the "k" because he says he doesn't plan on overclocking and it costs £40 more here...

[PCGuy_5960]

4 minutes ago, THFourteen said:

So the best I can do with the 1600X (unless you actually meant 1600) is £30 more expensive

I meant the non X, because it comes with a good stock cooler that you can use to overclock it to 3.8-3.9GHz.  I would recommend an ASUS or an AsRock board, AFAIK Gigabyte boards aren't very good. @dave_k

6 minutes ago, THFourteen said:

What are we talking about here benefits wise? He's already moaning about the "k" because he says he doesn't plan on overclocking and it costs £40 more here...

The X is clocked slightly higher and doesn't come with a cooler.

[Thinkfreely]

8 minutes ago, THFourteen said:

So the best I can do with the 1600X (unless you actually meant 1600) is £30 more expensive

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qMTqjc

 

What are we talking about here benefits wise? He's already moaning about the "k" because he says he doesn't plan on overclocking and it costs £40 more here...

He did mean the 1600. The X stands for "Extended Frequency Range" which all Ryzen CPUs have but those have "more". It does a automatic overclock based on cooling, but its absolutely not worth it, just like intel optane isn't worth it.

 

Right now the R5's beat the i5's in value because you can get more cores for less and performance wise they are pretty close, which is why he is suggesting that as the cores will help with productivity based programs, like rendering video and streaming.

 

Ryzen is ram hungry so faster ram is a must for the 3000mhz

 

Also if he moaning about the k because he doesn't plan on overclocking, that is fine. But someday he may want to overlcock it and since Ryzen CPU"s are all unlocked, he doesn't have to pay extra for the feature.

[just_dave]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

I meant the non X, because it comes with a good stock cooler that you can use to overclock it to 3.8-3.9GHz.  I would recommend an ASUS or an AsRock board, AFAIK Gigabyte boards aren't very good. @dave_k

The X is clocked slightly higher and doesn't come with a cooler.

The ITX one is good.

@THFourteen The Gigabyte mITX is good, but wait for Asus.

Strix X370-I will come in october.

[THFourteen]

I feel like if he isn't keen on overclocking and I can't convince him, then he'll surely get more out of a stock i5@3.8ghz? At least gaming wise?

 

i can't see him streaming, he's not that type of person, and rendering wise probably he might edit some rare photos and skiing videos but he's not a video producer or anything. 

 

Everyday work for him would be things like ms office and some light coding.

 

So I guess its really the gaming performance I need to worry about

[NewReborn]

Kaby i5s are a dead end. They're being rebranded into i3s if information so far is to be confirmed. Besides, the 1600(X) already outperform the current i5s in games because modern games use 8 threads/cores pretty damn well and the extra clockspeed on i5s is not enough. This is very evident by the fact that i5s are bottlenecking higher end cards (1070/1080) at 1080p whereas the R5 1600(X) are not having trouble keeping up with those GPUs.

Take it this way, if you buy an i5 now, it's going to be slightly weaker than next gen's quad-core i3s. If you buy a R5 1600(X) now, you're going to have a CPU equivalent to next gen's i5s. (next gen i5s are moving to 6 cores with lower clockspeeds)

[Fardin]

7 hours ago, THFourteen said:

I feel like if he isn't keen on overclocking and I can't convince him, then he'll surely get more out of a stock i5@3.8ghz? At least gaming wise?

 

 

when go for 4k, its become more of gpu work. at this moment when intel's 8th gen is releasing in a week, its such a waste to go for 7th gen specially 7600k, because I3 8350k will have 4ghz unlocked processor costing 80-90$ less. if cant wait, then go with Ryzen 1600, that would better purchase & its very easy to overclock ryzen. but I strongly suggest to wait a week or so & get intel 8th gen cpu. take a peek of the line up & prices https://newsroom.intel.com/newsroom/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/09/8th-gen-intel-core-overview.pdf