Cheap server computer

[Aaronius_Leonius]

I'm trying to get a motherboard, CPU and memory for a personal server. The main use of it is running QEMU virtual machines that I can connect to through VNC. I don't need a GPU right away because my dad might have an old one I can borrow for a bit and I already have a case and psu. I'm not looking for storage right away because I can temporarily use a live USB and an external hard drive. I'm aiming for under $200 and don't mind going used. Can someone help me find parts?

[Samoth]

personally, I buy a pentium G4560 on an asrock h110m itx/ac MB. but since then ryzen 3 come out, maybe you can try a ryzen 3 build.

[Swealteek]

Just now, Samoth said:

personally, I buy a pentium G4560 on an asrock h110m itx/ac MB. but since then ryzen 3 come out, maybe you can try a ryzen 3 build.

Whitea ryzen chip (4/8 or 6/12 C/T) omg running VM's is mmmmm soo goood

[Aaronius_Leonius]

1 minute ago, Samoth said:

personally, I buy a pentium G4560 on an asrock h110m itx/ac MB. but since then ryzen 3 come out, maybe you can try a ryzen 3 build.

Yeah, Ryzen 3 looks really nice. Going Ryzen would probably be a bit over my budget but it would be worth it 

[Aaronius_Leonius]

2 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

Whitea ryzen chip (4/8 or 6/12 C/T) omg running VM's is mmmmm soo goood

What Virtual machine software on what OS?

[Samoth]

Just now, AA-RonRosen said:

What Virtual machine software on what OS?

I recommend Oracle Virtual Box software for Windows 10 or linux (choose the one you prefer)

[Swealteek]

3 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

What Virtual machine software on what OS?

I personly use ubuntu whit VMware wokrstion 12 pro. I can setup Netwerk VMs and VMs and all that good stuf

 

@Samoth Kinde of a mixt back for my Oracle Virtual Box in windows is god like easy to use lots of plugins and tutrols. But on linux (ubtunu and mint ) it was hard to setup and had some problems ware my cpu never went the full 100% maby its just my do

[Aaronius_Leonius]

1 minute ago, Samoth said:

I recommend Oracle Virtual Box software for Windows 10 or linux (choose the one you prefer)

Virtualbox isn't quite made for VNC but it's great if you're not using VNC to view it. 

 

2 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

I personly use ubuntu whit VMware wokrstion 12 pro. I can setup Netwerk VMs and VMs and all that good stuf

Good to know. Thanks 

[Samoth]

2 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

I personly use ubuntu whit VMware wokrstion 12 pro. I can setup Netwerk VMs and VMs and all that good stuf

 

@Samoth Kinde of a mixt back for my Oracle Virtual Box in windows is god like easy to use lots of plugins and tutrols. But on linux (ubtunu and mint ) it was hard to setup and had some problems ware my cpu never went the full 100% maby its just my do

One of my friend manage to get a win 10 machine working on linux but he did not allow the vm to have access to all the cpu's core.

By the way if the vm is not able to get the 100% cpu use I think it's because linux keep a little margin for him self

[Aaronius_Leonius]

5 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

I personly use ubuntu whit VMware wokrstion 12 pro. I can setup Netwerk VMs and VMs and all that good stuf

 

@Samoth Kinde of a mixt back for my Oracle Virtual Box in windows is god like easy to use lots of plugins and tutrols. But on linux (ubtunu and mint ) it was hard to setup and had some problems ware my cpu never went the full 100% maby its just my do

Virtualbox has no problems for me. I have tried it on multiple operating systems and it worked best on ubuntu for me. Maybe you need to install vbox guest tools on the guest os. 

[staubgame]

The Dell T30 usually come on sale for a good price sporting a Xeon.

https://www.amazon.com/Newest-Dell-PowerEdge-E3-1225-Operating/dp/B0722J7NNX/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503698820&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=dell+t30&psc=1&smid=A3JS2199GQLB8L

 

Decent price and (or maybe but) it's a complete system, not just parts

Should go bellow 400$

[Swealteek]

5 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Virtualbox isn't quite made for VNC but it's great if you're not using VNC to view it. 

 

Good to know. Thanks 

If you want i got a good link to help you out kug kug kug

 

5 minutes ago, Samoth said:

One of my friend manage to get a win 10 machine working on linux but he did not allow the vm to have access to all the cpu's core.

By the way if the vm is not able to get the 100% cpu use I think it's because linux keep a little margin for him self

Yes even wen it was capt in linux the VM whit windows 10 wult only use 50% of the max so if linux gave it 50% and windows was capt at 50% that means it only had 25% of the cpu  also its was a Xeon E5 2670 whit 8 cores and 16 threads. i think i had like 3 or 4 core and 8GB of ram for the VM

[Swealteek]

1 minute ago, staubgame said:

The Dell T30 usually come on sale for a good price sporting a Xeon.

https://www.amazon.com/Newest-Dell-PowerEdge-E3-1225-Operating/dp/B0722J7NNX/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503698820&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=dell+t30&psc=1&smid=A3JS2199GQLB8L

 

Decent price and (or maybe but) it's a complete system, not just parts

Should go bellow 400$

Thats a 4 core no HT xeon so you only have 3 cores to play whit

[Aaronius_Leonius]

Just now, Swealteek said:

Thats a 4 core no HT xeon so you only have 3 cores to play whit

Well it would be the same story if I went Ryzen 3. 4 cores 4 threads 

[Swealteek]

1 minute ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Well it would be the same story if I went Ryzen 3. 4 cores 4 threads 

Ryzen 3 has 4 cores and 8 trheads  I was thinking about Ryzen 5 (1400 / 1500X)

[Samoth]

@Swealteek maybe a driver issue or I don't know. that a bit weird.

[staubgame]

Just now, Swealteek said:

Thats a 4 core no HT xeon so you only have 3 cores to play whit

I read that Ryzen 3 was considered.

It all depends on the budget but for less than 400$ this is hard to beat. 

[Aaronius_Leonius]

Just now, Swealteek said:

Ryzeb 3 has 4 cores and 8 trheads

Ryzen 5 does. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox

[staubgame]

1 minute ago, Swealteek said:

Ryzen 3 has 4 cores and 8 trheads

Nope, Ryzen 3 is 4C4T

[Aaronius_Leonius]

Just now, staubgame said:

I read that Ryzen 3 was considered.

It all depends on the budget but for less than 400$ this is hard to beat. 

I already have a case and psu anyway so building one at this point would be cheaper. If that wasn't the case, I would totally go for it 

[staubgame]

1 minute ago, AA-RonRosen said:

I already have a case and psu anyway so building one at this point would be cheaper. If that wasn't the case, I would totally go for it 

Ah okay, Then definetly go with ryzen 5 then. You could even condider the Ryzen 5 1600 as that one has 6C already, but maybe thats over budget.

[Swealteek]

And somting like this ?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Workstation-Z600-2x-Xeon-E5520-2-26GHz-NO-HDD-16GB-RAM-DVD-NO-OS-/282597245535?epid=1421127060&hash=item41cc1bc25f:g:0ggAAOSwLKpZgzDI

[Aaronius_Leonius]

3 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

And somting like this ?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Workstation-Z600-2x-Xeon-E5520-2-26GHz-NO-HDD-16GB-RAM-DVD-NO-OS-/282597245535?epid=1421127060&hash=item41cc1bc25f:g:0ggAAOSwLKpZgzDI

Yeah, something like that. I would prefer to build it though as I bought my case and psu ahead of time because it was the only way I could afford to build the pc. Although I might actually get that and transfer it to my case. 

[Samoth]

4 minutes ago, AA-RonRosen said:

Yeah, something like that. I would prefer to build it though as I bought my case and psu ahead of time because it was the only way I could afford to build the pc. Although I might actually get that and transfer it to my case. 

be careful with those type product, most of the time they do not have standard ATX layout.

 

edit: i found a picture of the inside

[Aaronius_Leonius]

11 minutes ago, Samoth said:

be careful with those type product, most of the time they do not have standard ATX layout.

 

edit: i found a picture of the inside

Worst case, I just don't use the case. It's a cheap case anyway. If it's a standard ATX PSU then I will probably get it and use my psu. It's got two 4 core 8 thread processors and I checked eBay, there are plenty of people selling the same computer for around the same price. If I can use my current power supply then I will definitely get it.