PC Upgrades, Opinions

[PiggyPiglet]

So, today was my birthday. Got a bunch of money, and I've been saving up for a while. I now have enough for the upgrades I've chosen out, but before doing anything I may regret, I want to ask for some more experienced opinions. Here's what I've chosen out,

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/626537/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Kabylake-42GHz-8MB-No-HSF-Retail-Box
2 * https://www.ple.com.au/Products/623707/Kingston-8GB-DDR4-ValueRAM-C15-2133MHz
https://www.ple.com.au/Products/626663/ASRock-H270-Fatal1ty-Gaming-LGA1151-DDR4-ATX-Motherboard
That is what I've found, but it's most certainly not set in stone. The max amount I'd like to spend is $800, and I'd prefer to get it all from ple (I live in Perth, Western Australia). I've never built a pc before, the current pc I have, I let the people building it choose the specs. This time I will be doing the upgrades myself. 
I'll be using the pc for gaming and coding. My current specs are:
nVidia GeForce GTX 960
Intel i5-4460
8gb ddr3 ram

 

^^ Post copied from https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/pc-upgrades-opinions.268228/

 

To save reading of replies, here's the summary:

Should get a good cooler, faster ram and a different motherboard.

 

So, what I ask from you guys, is what kind of cooler? How fast ram, and what motherboard. It would be extremely helpful if you guys find the parts on the ple website.

[Jurrunio]

1. Worst time to buy CPU from Intel. Coffee Lake will be available next month and bring 6 cores to their consumer lineup. In your budget, watch out for the i5-8600k, a 6 core 6 thread CPU and 8700k, a 6 core 12 thread CPU.

 

2. You need a Z270 / Z170 motherboard to overclock a 7700k, or Z370 to overclock an 8600k. Either way, a Z mobo is necessary. That will increase the price

 

3. Ryzen is also something to consider. Slightly worse in games, but cheap enough to make it a better option for those on a tight budget.

 

4. I'd upgrade the GPU first if I have a system like that. You wont see much improvements in games if you upgraded your CPU anyway because the GTX 960 cant even fully use the 4460's power.

 

5. Watch out for your PSU. What is its model and wattage?

 

[seon123]

You might want to upgrade the GPU first. A simple 1070 or Vega 56 would do it. 

Imo, for a platform upgrade, Ryzen would be better. I don't know whether or not you have a decent PSU, so I just added a decent one. An SSD would also be an upgrade, if you don't have one. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($288.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($124.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($205.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($118.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $735.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-26 00:39 AEST+1000

[PiggyPiglet]

My psu is an rm650, and I do have an ssd. I'll be upgrading it to 480gb soon (currently 240) so I can dual boot with windows and linux. I do plan on upgrading the gpu to a 1060 - 1080 (Are they any good?) eventually. That 8700k cpu looks very nice, and I was actually considering a ryzen but I think I want to stick with intel. Regarding the cooler though, what would be good for the 8700k when it releases?

[brob]

18 minutes ago, PiggyPiglet said:

My psu is an rm650, and I do have an ssd. I'll be upgrading it to 480gb soon (currently 240) so I can dual boot with windows and linux. I do plan on upgrading the gpu to a 1060 - 1080 (Are they any good?) eventually. That 8700k cpu looks very nice, and I was actually considering a ryzen but I think I want to stick with intel. Regarding the cooler though, what would be good for the 8700k when it releases?

Likely anything that would be good for an i7-7700K. The i7-8700K is expected to also have a 95W TDP.. 

[TraskJ]

Forgive me if I misread, but are you really planning to pair a 7700K with only 1x8 gb of RAM? I would say the appropriate amount of RAM for that would be 2x8 at the least, preferably 2x16 or 4x8. For most modern tasks, eight gigs is enough, but this build isn’t an “enough” build with an i7. I’d say drop to an i5 and upgrade to more RAM, or pony up for more RAM to pair with the i7. 

[PiggyPiglet]

4 hours ago, TraskJ said:

Forgive me if I misread, but are you really planning to pair a 7700K with only 1x8 gb of RAM? I would say the appropriate amount of RAM for that would be 2x8 at the least, preferably 2x16 or 4x8. For most modern tasks, eight gigs is enough, but this build isn’t an “enough” build with an i7. I’d say drop to an i5 and upgrade to more RAM, or pony up for more RAM to pair with the i7. 

I may of not been specific enough, I believe I said I planned on upgrading to 2x8 ddr4 ram. I'm thinking about 3000mhz, but now I'm really stuck about processor. I could buy a ryzen which I know won't disappoint, or I could wait an unknown amount of time for a cpu that might not even be better.

[brob]

2 hours ago, PiggyPiglet said:

I may of not been specific enough, I believe I said I planned on upgrading to 2x8 ddr4 ram. I'm thinking about 3000mhz, but now I'm really stuck about processor. I could buy a ryzen which I know won't disappoint, or I could wait an unknown amount of time for a cpu that might not even be better.

It will be better for gaming given that the i7-7700K is arguable better than an R7-1800X. When it might be available is a valid question. I've heard suggestions that it will be sometime before the gift giving season. But I believe Intel has suggested that the Coffee Lake release could spread out into the new year.

[PiggyPiglet]

25 minutes ago, brob said:

It will be better for gaming given that the i7-7700K is arguable better than an R7-1800X. When it might be available is a valid question. I've heard suggestions that it will be sometime before the gift giving season. But I believe Intel has suggested that the Coffee Lake release could spread out into the new year.

Answer me honestly please, will I be disappointed if I buy an i7 7700k now, then the i7 8700k comes out a few months later

[brob]

Just now, PiggyPiglet said:

Answer me honestly please, will I be disappointed if I buy an i7 7700k now, then the i7 8700k comes out a few months later

Maybe. Bottom line is that i7-8700K is pure speculation at this point. The good news is that Intel has indicated Coffee Lake desktop chips will be released before the end of the year.

 

There is always new tech just around the corner. When getting a new system one has to decide that having a working system today is more important than waiting for something that may or may not meet expectations.

[PiggyPiglet]

I went with the i7 7700k, 2 x 8gb ddr4-3200 and an asrock z270 extreme4 motherboard. Will be getting a new graphics card when I get some more money soon, need to get a bigger psu first though. Thank you for all the responses.