iMac Pro Xeon

[MrMcMuffinJr]

I was just wondering if anyone knew what model of xeon is in the new iMac. The apple website as you know give a crap load of detailed information.

 

[79wjd]

They didn't give any information about it, so no one knows. 

[MrMcMuffinJr]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

They didn't give any information about it, so no one knows. 

typical Apple. Always giving useless information!

[79wjd]

Just now, MrMcMuffinJr said:

typical Apple. Always giving useless information!

It's not even available for pre-order. That info generally gets released then. 

[MrMcMuffinJr]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

It's not even available for pre-order. That info generally gets released then. 

this is from the macbook air. no model number

 

[79wjd]

19 minutes ago, MrMcMuffinJr said:

this is from the macbook air. no model number

 

You can easily figure out what CPU is being used by the specs. 

[MrMcMuffinJr]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

You can easily figure out what CPU is being used by the specs. 

yes but why cant they just say it. It's 4-5 f***ing characters. didnt know they were that lazy

[MrMcMuffinJr]

if I could create a single law. it would be a requirement to identify in detail components anywhere they are mentioned.

[TheCherryKing]

The 18-Core Xeon is probably an E5-2699v4. The new top of the line Xeon has 28 cores.

[MrMcMuffinJr]

16 hours ago, TheCherryKing said:

The 18-Core Xeon is probably an E5-2699v4. The new top of the line Xeon has 28 cores.

actually the 2699 is a 22 core. I played with the filters on the intel products page and found a list of possible cpus.

[Ground]

3 hours ago, MrMcMuffinJr said:

actually the 2699 is a 22 core. I played with the filters on the intel products page and found a list of possible cpus.

I am 99% sure its not gonna be one of those. Why? Apple is either gonna use the server/workstation equivalent of x99 (unlikely) or x299 (likely), and the Xeon E7 are meant for the quad socket systems. 

 

Given that they are using 8-18 cores, which is in line with the new i7/i9 line, and the Xeon e5 16** line is typically in line with those and is meant for single socket systems I wouldn't be surprised if we see them using the latest version of those (v5 I suppose).

 

The e5 26** doesn't make sense to use given that those are dual socket, which wouldn't be useful at all given that the iMac Pro is a single socket system. 

[TheCherryKing]

3 hours ago, Ground said:

I am 99% sure its not gonna be one of those. Why? Apple is either gonna use the server/workstation equivalent of x99 (unlikely) or x299 (likely), and the Xeon E7 are meant for the quad socket systems. 

 

Given that they are using 8-18 cores, which is in line with the new i7/i9 line, and the Xeon e5 16** line is typically in line with those and is meant for single socket systems I wouldn't be surprised if we see them using the latest version of those (v5 I suppose).

 

The e5 26** doesn't make sense to use given that those are dual socket, which wouldn't be useful at all given that the iMac Pro is a single socket system. 

My bad. I meant the 2699v3. The Mac Pro used an E5 26** processor even though it only had one socket. Besides Intel changed their naming scheme again! The new Xeons no longer are called E3, E5, or E7.

[Guest lilbman]

Doesn't really matter LOL, it's going to thermal throttle to hell and back anyway when you try to do anything demanding.

[79wjd]

45 minutes ago, lilbman said:

Doesn't really matter LOL, it's going to thermal throttle to hell and back anyway when you try to do anything demanding.

possibly, but we don't know that yet and we won't know that until units are available in December-ish. 

[Guest lilbman]

54 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

possibly, but we don't know that yet and we won't know that until units are available in December-ish. 

Unless it is watercooled, I honestly doubt that you could keep a 120W TDP processor and a potentially 150W TDP graphics card cool under load in one of those things.  It just doesn't look like it could really keep the internals running under full load without thermal throttling, and as we all know, Apple doesn't really place a priority on keeping their products cool..

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, lilbman said:

Unless it is watercooled, I honestly doubt that you could keep a 120W TDP processor and a potentially 150W TDP graphics card cool under load in one of those things.  It just doesn't look like it could really keep the internals running under full load without thermal throttling, and as we all know, Apple doesn't really place a priority on keeping their products cool..

If the fans run at 50,000 RPM, then it would be cool. The fact is you really can't say that it will throttle. There's a good chance it will, but it's not guaranteed nor can we say to what extent it will throttle.

[Guest lilbman]

36 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

If the fans run at 50,000 RPM, then it would be cool. The fact is you really can't say that it will throttle. There's a good chance it will, but it's not guaranteed nor can we say to what extent it will throttle.

I really can't say it will, correct.  I guess we will find out this December.

[Ground]

13 hours ago, TheCherryKing said:

My bad. I meant the 2699v3. The Mac Pro used an E5 26** processor even though it only had one socket. Besides Intel changed their naming scheme again! The new Xeons no longer are called E3, E5, or E7.

I just realised they never went with more than 8 cores for the 16** CPUs, so I suppose that is the reason why they used the dual-capable 26**. We'll see what they end up using through either leaks or in December. 

For thermal throttling: while we have seen many Macs throttle before, the trashcan didn't, while many expected it to. Lets wait for the release and tests to say that if it does. The 2012 iMac had a 95W 3770 and a 100W 675mx in its top configuration, so maybe the new cooling setup can handle an additional 70W.