R5 1600 Overclocking

[He_162]

I have a Ryzen 5 1600, and MSI B350m mortar arctic.

 

I have a NZXT Kraken x62 watercooler, overkill right? I plan on getting the Skylake X 12 core.

 

Anyhow, I was hoping to get 4ghz out of my chip, here is step by step what I did, and what happened afterwards.

1. I changed the CPU Ratio, from Auto to 4000.

2. I changed the Voltage from Auto to 1.4.

3. Saved and rebooted.

4. No post.

5. Repeat and increase voltage by 0.0125 until stable

-Never posted even at 1.45v-

 

I have it at 1.2875v, 3.7ghz, but it seems like I can't get it above 3.85ghz even at 1.45v.

 

Do I have a poor quality chip, and if so, is there any way to trade it in for a better chip?

 

Also, there is the north bridge voltage, should I change that to aid in becoming stable? I'm unfamiliar with how to overclock Ryzen properly, if that's simply the issue.

[R24]

I got mine to 3.9ghz on 1.33v without problems, you might have just gotten really unlucky, but I wouldn't sweat over a 0.2 or 0.3ghz difference.

[He_162]

21 minutes ago, R24 said:

I got mine to 3.9ghz on 1.33v without problems, you might have just gotten really unlucky, but I wouldn't sweat over a 0.2 or 0.3ghz difference.

Well, I am very very picky about these kind of things, if most people are getting 3.9, I want 4.

 

My brother's Ryzen chip came in, and he's got it at 4ghz under 1.35v.

 

I'll be testing his rig with my NZXT Kraken x62 to see if I can get his up to 4.2, that would be amazing, I'd trade him chips, since he runs his on stock, since he doesn't like overclocking himself, and he has the stock cooler.

As for my CPU, I'd just like to know if I could get it to at least 4ghz any other way before I either trade it in, or trade with my brother.

[Vanguardas]

24 minutes ago, He_162 said:

Well, I am very very picky about these kind of things, if most people are getting 3.9, I want 4.

 

My brother's Ryzen chip came in, and he's got it at 4ghz under 1.35v.

 

I'll be testing his rig with my NZXT Kraken x62 to see if I can get his up to 4.2, that would be amazing, I'd trade him chips, since he runs his on stock, since he doesn't like overclocking himself, and he has the stock cooler.

As for my CPU, I'd just like to know if I could get it to at least 4ghz any other way before I either trade it in, or trade with my brother.

It could be a motherboard limitation. I remember Bryan from Tech City reporting up to 200-300MHz more on his OC using a premium board. Though the cost required for the extra 300MHz isn't worth it.

[He_162]

1 hour ago, Vanguardas said:

It could be a motherboard limitation. I remember Bryan from Tech City reporting up to 200-300MHz more on his OC using a premium board. Though the cost required for the extra 300MHz isn't worth it.

The extra IO options, and other handy things might be worth the extra cash, I'll look at some X370 boards, but my brothers CPU can do 4ghz on the same board, MSI b350m mortar arctic, so I don't think it's the board.

[jjohnthedon1]

Set ur llc to max 

[He_162]

10 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Set ur llc to max 

I'll try this, give me a little bit and I'll be back to see how it works.

[He_162]

10 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Set ur llc to max 

I set the LLC on core voltage, and north bridge to max, and only then did it boot into windows at 3.9ghz, I haven't tried 4ghz yet, I will soon, I haven't done any stress testing yet, but I will before moving onto anything higher, I also set the north bridge voltage to 1.2v.

(core voltage is 1.45v.)

[He_162]

11 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Set ur llc to max 

Do you know anything else I can do to help it?

Right now I can get it stable at 1.5v (Yikes!) at 3900mhz if I set LLC to max. (For both north bridge and core clock)

[jjohnthedon1]

What do you mean north ? Ryzen boards done run north and south ? 

You should be able to run lower voltage with llc on

 

@tom_w141 

can you help here it's a bit out of my league

[He_162]

16 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

What do you mean north ? Ryzen boards done run north and south ? 

You should be able to run lower voltage with llc on

 

@tom_w141 

can you help here it's a bit out of my league

This is what I was talking about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_(computing)

 

@tom_w141Can ya help? What should I be fiddling with to get this thing as fast as freakin possible?

Also, anyone know where I can get another backplate for my cooler mount, the current one feels too flimsy, no matter how much I tighten the cooler down, and if I hold my CPU cooler down to the board with my bare hands it instantly starts getting better temps during stress tests, even so, it performs fine when doing gaming (no more than 57C under gaming load)

[tom_w141]

18 minutes ago, He_162 said:

This is what I was talking about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_(computing)

 

@tom_w141Can ya help? What should I be fiddling with to get this thing as fast as freakin possible?

Also, anyone know where I can get another backplate for my cooler mount, the current one feels too flimsy, no matter how much I tighten the cooler down, and if I hold my CPU cooler down to the board with my bare hands it instantly starts getting better temps during stress tests, even so, it performs fine when doing gaming (no more than 57C under gaming load)

I haven't messed with the north bridge voltage. Usually the only ones you need to change are Vcore(1.45 max) and SOC voltage(1.2 max)

 

EDIT: Backplate? on AMD boards they come attached to the motherboard and they are far from flimsy... It's metal adhered to the PCB  

 

EDIT 2: Your brother hitting 4 and you 3.8 beginning to sound like silicon lottery to me. You lost  depending on where you bought the CPU you may be eligible to return, for example amazon will take anything back within a certain period no questions asked. This is morally grey as you shouldn't return a fully functioning product (it's running at its advertised speeds so it IS fully functional) but I understand its disappointing. Btw Ryzen has a hard voltage wall around 4.0, some lucky chips (23% of 1800Xs) can achieve 4.1. you will NOT achieve 4.2

 

EDIT 3:

 

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I hold my CPU cooler down to the board with my bare hands

Reading this makes me cringe and die a little inside. Stop doing this, you don't know how much pressure you are exerting and it probably isn't evenly distributed either. STOP OR YOU WILL BREAK SOMETHING

[He_162]

8 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

I haven't messed with the north bridge voltage. Usually the only ones you need to change are Vcore(1.45 max) and SOC voltage(1.2 max)

 

EDIT: Backplate? on AMD boards they come attached to the motherboard and they are far from flimsy... It's metal adhered to the PCB  

 

EDIT 2: Your brother hitting 4 and you 3.8 beginning to sound like silicon lottery to me. You lost  depending on where you bought the CPU you may be eligible to return, for example amazon will take anything back within a certain period no questions asked. This is morally grey as you shouldn't return a fully functioning product (it's running at its advertised speeds so it IS fully functional) but I understand its disappointing. Btw Ryzen has a hard voltage wall around 4.0, some lucky chips (23% of 1800Xs) can achieve 4.1. you will NOT achieve 4.2

 

EDIT 3:

 

Reading this makes me cringe and die a little inside. Stop doing this, you don't know how much pressure you are exerting and it probably isn't evenly distributed either. STOP OR YOU WILL BREAK SOMETHING

Just pressing the corner of the cooler down with my thumb lightly, not in any way exerting more stress than a screw would in the same place, I ended up getting a small drill, cutting the broken screw out of the plate, and mounting a zip tie through instead, it works great now Looks like A** though.

As for the overclock, I'm gonna try for a stable 3.9ghz, if I can't, I'll buy a 1600x, and sell this one on Ebay if I can.