Amd Ryzen Help

[Skye0lucero]

Never built a amd system before always used intel whats the difference between a ryzan cpu and a fx cpu and if I went with the ryzen 1800x would I be able to game on it with no bottle necking running a gtx 1070

[tom_w141]

The difference is Ryzen is a multi core CPU done properly.

 

Bulldozer (FX) was an architectural fuck up

 

Zen (Ryzen) is faaaaaaar superior, most notably its huge IPC (instructions per clock) gain over bulldozer, something like 50% higher which is huge.

 

Ryzen is AMD getting back into the CPU market at great price points.

 

Some advice though the product stacks are little confusing. For example you are assuming as is natural that the 1800X is far superior to the bottom of the R7 stack, the 1700. Well my 1700 is OC'd to 4GHz which is higher than the 1800X at stock and around the same maximum as the 1800X (23% of 1800X's achieve 4.1GHz).

 

So as you can see there is not much difference because its just a factory overclock on the "higher" models. My advice is get the 1700 and use the saving on a GTX 1080 (or VEGA is right around the corner which could offer 1080 performance at less cost).

[Skye0lucero]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

The difference is Ryzen is a multi core CPU done properly.

 

Bulldozer (FX) was an architectural fuck up

 

Zen (Ryzen) is faaaaaaar superior, most notably its huge IPC (instructions per clock) gain over bulldozer, something like 50% higher which is huge.

 

Ryzen is AMD getting back into the CPU market at great price points.

 

Some advice though the product stacks are little confusing. For example you are assuming as is natural that the 1800X is far superior to the bottom of the R7 stack, the 1700. Well my 1700 is OC'd to 4GHz which is higher than the 1800X at stock and around the same maximum as the 1800X (23% of 1800X's achieve 4.1GHz).

 

So as you can see there is not much difference because its just a factory overclock on the "higher" models. My advice is get the 1700 and use the saving on a GTX 1080 (or VEGA is right around the corner which could offer 1080 performance at less cost).

I hear about vega what is it nvida releasing another new gpu?

[HKZeroFive]

AMD's FX and Ryzen series are two completely different architectures. There's only two things to note; FXs are bad, Ryzens are actually good.

 

Forget about bottlenecks because that term is overused. What do you intend to use your system for?

[stealth80]

1 minute ago, Skye0lucero said:

I hear about vega what is it nvida releasing another new gpu?

I agree with this 

 

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

The difference is Ryzen is a multi core CPU done properly.

 

Bulldozer (FX) was an architectural fuck up

 

Zen (Ryzen) is faaaaaaar superior, most notably its huge IPC (instructions per clock) gain over bulldozer, something like 50% higher which is huge.

 

Ryzen is AMD getting back into the CPU market at great price points.

 

Some advice though the product stacks are little confusing. For example you are assuming as is natural that the 1800X is far superior to the bottom of the R7 stack, the 1700. Well my 1700 is OC'd to 4GHz which is higher than the 1800X at stock and around the same maximum as the 1800X (23% of 1800X's achieve 4.1GHz).

 

So as you can see there is not much difference because its just a factory overclock on the "higher" models. My advice is get the 1700 and use the saving on a GTX 1080 (or VEGA is right around the corner which could offer 1080 performance at less cost).

 

1 minute ago, Skye0lucero said:

I hear about vega what is it nvida releasing another new gpu?

Yes Volta

[Skye0lucero]

Just now, HKZeroFive said:

AMD's FX and Ryzen series are two completely different architectures. There's only two things to note; FXs are bad, Ryzens are actually good.

 

Forget about bottlenecks because that term is overused. What do you intend to use your system for?

gaming and future content creation

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

I hear about vega what is it nvida releasing another new gpu?

VEGA is the next AMD GPU

[tom_w141]

Just now, stealth80 said:

I agree with this 

 

 

Yes Volta

I think your formatting got a little messed up in the above post mate.

[HKZeroFive]

1 minute ago, Skye0lucero said:

gaming and future content creation

Cool. Get the R7 1700 and overclock it with the included stock cooler and save yourself a good chunk of money in the process. Or put said money towards a better GPU such as the GTX 1080.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Skye0lucero said:

gaming and future content creation

Then definitely follow my advice regarding the 1700 and better GPU

[stealth80]

17 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I think your formatting got a little messed up in the above post mate.

Wierd

 

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

Wierd

 

That's my point see the top and bottom quote? they are the same with different statements and you agreeing with a question doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something  

[stealth80]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

That's my point see the top and bottom quote? they are the same with different statements and you agreeing with a question doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something  

well I can see the confusion, I was tagging the op to say I agreed with the other guys post

[tom_w141]

8 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

well I can see the confusion, I was tagging the op to say I agreed with the other guys post

Oh  Yeah I'd guessed you agreed with me  but wondered why the other quote was in there twice my mistake  I'm just used to quote with response below. Doesn't matter though he got his question pretty conclusively answered  

[pelark]

Get a 1700 and OC it on a b350 board, use the $170 that you saved when opting for a 1700 to buy a 1080. 

You won't experience any bottlenecking with this setup.