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There are a lot of reasons a drive can die and whether or not something is recoverable depends on how/why it dies. If it dies, you're basically screwed and you're not getting your data back. If it's in the process of dying, then you could usually just plug it in and copy the data off of it. 

 

Drives usually day very early in their life or after years of use. 

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1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

There are a lot of reasons a drive can die and whether or not something is recoverable depends on how/why it dies. If it dies, you're basically screwed and you're not getting your data back. If it's in the process of dying, then you could usually just plug it in and copy the data off of it. 

 

Drives usually day very early in their life or after years of use. 

you mean plug in my pc and copy it somewhere?

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Just now, apaar123 said:

you mean plug in my pc and copy it somewhere?

yes

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Reasons for a harddrive to fail:

 

a) old age

b) massive IO for a long time (heads jumping around on the disk)

c) too much spin down/spin up due to energy saving

d) manufacturing error

e) sudden exposure to gravity (sssst clang)

f) shocks to the drive while active

g) sunrays

h) moon spots

i) exposure to moisture

j) lots more

 

As long as the drive is somewhat readable, get a second drive, install the os to that or use a kind of repair system from a stick/cd/dvd and transfer the files over to the new disc. there are some freeware programs that try to get the data from the still accessable disc.

 

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1 minute ago, apaar123 said:

Ok but I guess if I don't use my nas that much and just use it to store my data then it might have a longer life maybe?

Spin up and spin down time are actually what put the most wear on a drive. 

 

Just run burn in tests on your drive for a day or two and then you can run your NAS 24/7 and more than likely it won't fail for at least a few years. Drives are pretty resilient these days.

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A NAS is there to be used and not to idle. Ok some get NAS system for pure backup reasons. 

 

Fact, drives fail eventually. A NAS with configured raid is nice for error correction, but first rule even with a raid system... Backup backup backup.

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3 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

A NAS is there to be used and not to idle. Ok some get NAS system for pure backup reasons. 

 

Fact, drives fail eventually. A NAS with configured raid is nice for error correction, but first rule even with a raid system... Backup backup backup.

But where can I backup? I found amazon cloud to be decent

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4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Spin up and spin down time are actually what put the most wear on a drive. 

 

Just run burn in tests on your drive for a day or two and then you can run your NAS 24/7 and more than likely it won't fail for at least a few years. Drives are pretty resilient these days.

I wont be using it 24/7 because it will have stuff like my 4k movies which are large in size. Although my internet speed is good and can download stuff again but still its too much work

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USB Harddrives. Most NAS systems have USB ports. Just a big USB drive, or maybe 2. Plug them in, start a backup script, incremental preferrably. The first will take a while, the next ones just take the changes that happened from the last backup until the next, which is then a lot faster. 

 

And it can run while you are asleep. Plug in the backup drive before going to bed, and usually in the morning the backup is through, or the coming evening depending on the size.

 

The raid configurations in a NAS are nice, and sometimes prevent a total data loss. But the too have "holes" which don't prevent data loss. 

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Oh, or use Backblaze for backups. =) the last WAN Show had them as Sponsor. 

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