Potential Ryzen Build

[raptor225]

Ok, so I'm building a tower with a Ryzen 5 chip. The point of this system is to experiment with some midrange stuff from AMD as I have only used intel core i7's in the past. I only plan on keeping this system as my main computer until late 2018 or early 2019 so upgradability is not an issue. I have a few minor issue to work out before I build it and wanted to consult the forums to see if you guys think it will work. Here is the build so far:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r9WzgL
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r9WzgL/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($188.98 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($93.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card  ($235.00) 
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($33.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $831.82
 

so, the main issue is that I want to tackle is pcie lanes, im not sure how they work on ryzen. can i use the m.2 drive and the graphics card without any lane issues? Also, I want to be able to add bluetooth to the machine, and i havent figured out the best way to do that. If i add another pci e card to add wifi and blue tooth, will there be enough lanes for that card?

Another issue is motherboards, i hear that all of the AM4 mobos have been iffy, but i think the one i chose will get the job done.

Also, feel free to comment on the balance of the system, and i plan on using the stock cooler because i dont plan on doing huge amounts of overclocking. 

[HalGameGuru]

Unless you were wanting to SLI, which that mobo wont do anyways, you shouldnt have any trouble with PCIe lanes. Ryzen has 24 built in. 16 for GpU, 4 dedicated for m.2 4 for chipset, chipset may have more, but the other PCIe lanes are covered by the chipset lanes, i believe. You should be golden.

 

The gigabyte board should be fine, unless you were looking to OC, then I'd suggest checking "Actually Hardcore Overclocking" on Youtube for some further info

[Energycore]

This page has info on this. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-and-ryzen-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700/13

 

Most Ryzen motherboards can do 16 Gen 3 lanes to AICs on the PCI-E slots (so Crossfire on x8/x8 or a GPU on x8 and a bunch of other things), plus 4 more Gen 3 Lanes for M.2 SSDs / M.2 Wireless adapters through 2 Thunderbolt 3 connections, (from reading that page and from looking at mobos).

 

Most AM4 motheroards are fine except that you want to get RAM with Samsung chips (B-Die, is what they call it). But that's only if you need the additional interconnect speed that comes from having faster RAM, you won't notice a difference on an RX 580. Be aware though that setting RAM to its XMP profile might be hard to do.

 

Also don't get a 600p, they're really not good. A MyDigitalSSD BPX is a better NVMe SSD or you could get a SATA for cheaper like a MX300 or SL308 and get the same performance (or better depending on workload) for cheaper.

 

And finally, don't get a crap PSU, get this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze

[RadiatingLight]

Upgrade to a 1600.

MUCH better value.

[Energycore]

3 minutes ago, HalGameGuru said:

Unless you were wanting to SLI, which that mobo wont do anyways, you shouldnt have any trouble with PCIe lanes. Ryzen has 24 built in. 16 for GpU, 4 dedicated for m.2 4 for chipset, chipset may have more, but the other PCIe lanes are covered by the chipset lanes, i believe. You should be golden.

 

The gigabyte board should be fine, unless you were looking to OC, then I'd suggest checking "Actually Hardcore Overclocking" on Youtube for some further info

Crossfire though. B350 can do it

[raptor225]

awesome, thanks hal, thats a big help. I wasnt set on the psu, just gunna get whatever's from a good brand thats got good reviews, thats got a good price. The ssd has been a challenging choice, i want to get an m.2 but only if its significantly faster than any sata drive, without blowing over 200. so if the intel aint worth killing 4 sata ports ill pick up something else, let me know if you recommend a specific drive. and ill read into the ram, havent given the compatibility much thought.

[raptor225]

also, i dont think im gunna do crossfire, just want a capable 1080p gaming rig that will stay relevant up to two years, then ill either sell it or use it as a secondary machine.

[M.A.P]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HGbf8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HGbf8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.98 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($68.30 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($146.98 @ Directron) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.90 @ Newegg) 
Total: $828.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 00:59 EDT-0400

 

[HalGameGuru]

I dunno if I'd call that EVGA PSU crap. its 80+ so it would have to have active PFC and most current and voltage protections. I'd consider it a budget option, but not crap

[HalGameGuru]

55 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Crossfire though. B350 can do it

yeah but crossfire will work with fewer pcie lanes

[Shura]

2 hours ago, raptor225 said:

Also, feel free to comment on the balance of the system, and i plan on using the stock cooler because i dont plan on doing huge amounts of overclocking. 

If you are wanting to test the AMD chips, I would go with the 1600, one of the biggest selling points of Ryzen is more cores at a cheaper price. The build uses a 1600 and it's only $9 more.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GRC4vV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GRC4vV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB PULSE Video Card  ($234.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $840.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 02:38 EDT-0400

[Sanctorum]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.98 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($93.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($55.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB PULSE Video Card  ($228.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Corsair) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $847.82

 

Get the 1400 or 1600, don't bother with a 1500x. This is a little more expensive than what you were looking at because I wanted to include a better PSU. Corsair CX450M is a decent alternative to the BQ 600W. The CX450M is slightly better quality but the BQ600 gives you XFire support.

[raptor225]

I appreciate your recommendations, im probably going to change around the ssd, might just go with an 850 evo 2.5 to keep my sata ports open. The psu i put there was a placeholder really, that choice keeps changing depending on what goes on and off sale, as long as its good. I do have the coin to blow on the 1600x and on ssd's that cost more, but thats not the idea behind this system, i want it to be more of a system to play around with AMD hardware and a slightly more budget oriented components. Its only meant to last 2 years max.

[Dimitry_3]

Check this out !!!

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CVP8wV

[Energycore]

12 hours ago, HalGameGuru said:

yeah but crossfire will work with fewer pcie lanes

Not 100% on that, I'm not sure that crossfire will be fine on 4x/4x. Got sauce?

[HalGameGuru]

18 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Not 100% on that, I'm not sure that crossfire will be fine on 4x/4x. Got sauce?

I'll have to check around. Not sure if that was YouTube or TWiT. But SLI REQUIRES 8x or better on all GPU slots, to be certified or work at all, crossfire does not REQUIRE it. And it should be even less an issue on PCIe 3.0 compared to the earlier 2.0 systems. But there are benchmarks testing XFire on 8x/8x vs 16x/4x setups

[raptor225]

one other thing, does anyone have any recommendations for a bluetooth pcie card? That was one of the reasons why i wanted to know about the pcie lanes, and I was going to get this one: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA80M4FJ6307&cm_re=bluetooth_adapter-_-9SIA80M4FJ6307-_-Product 

 

 

[HalGameGuru]

Bluetooth is pretty low impact. That card should be OK, I have had issues in the past with cards that take laptop style mini-pcie cards and adapt them up to full pcie, but most work fine. Worst case scenario you could even get a decent USB bluetooth and wire it to one of the internal USB headers on the mobo

[raptor225]

perfect. i think once i pick an ssd and a psu, it will be set. thank you for your help.