New PC build 28.0!

[Catbattle]

So apparently my number of times I have drafted this god damned computer to perfection was off by 10. This is the 28th draft of this build. Jesus fuck. Regardless, this fits my budgets just about (I mean 25 dollars is about all the wiggle room I can use) and my color scheme is white and silver. I plan on playing every god damn game for the next few years with no upgrades nessicary. From minecraft to Overwatch to Crisis 3 to Just Cause 3, and especially Titanfall 2. I want this to last till at least 2020 and be able to play smoothly at medium settings then. For right now I want ultra 1080p 60fps. Can this do it?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/myyVTH

Thanks in advance, sorry if I`m sounding a bit weird in this thread, I`m sick so I`m not thinking super well. Thanks!

 

[Himommies]

kill the cpu cooler and get a 470 plus a 7100

[Tylerebowers]

cpu bottleneak

[Catbattle]

Just now, Tyleredbowers said:

cpu bottleneak

The Pentium is one of the best performing budget chips on the market, with single core rivaling that of an i5-6500 and only performing 10% worse than an i3-6100, and also comes with being a fancy newer chip. Believe me have I researched it.

2 minutes ago, Himommies said:

kill the cpu cooler and get a 470 plus a 7100

Not sure if the cpu comes with a cooler lol, and why an rx 470? And an i3-7100? Why?

[Skiiwee29]

The Chip will come with the stock cooler. Since you wont be doing any overclocking with that board, the stock cooler is 100% adequate. I think based on what you want for your gaming experience, you should be able to accomplish it at 1080p 60fps at Medium/high settings for the next 1-3 years. 

[Catbattle]

3 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

The Chip will come with the stock cooler. Since you wont be doing any overclocking with that board, the stock cooler is 100% adequate. I think based on what you want for your gaming experience, you should be able to accomplish it at 1080p 60fps at Medium/high settings for the next 1-3 years. 

Thanks! Is the PSU a good choice? Any better part choices for not much more?

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Himommies said:

kill the cpu cooler and get a 470 plus a 7100

Why...? 7100 is legit barely any better than the G4560, atleast not worth twice the price better. I would say maybe get an RX 480 and get rid of cooler and save some money for games.

[Skiiwee29]

3 minutes ago, TheCatShuriken said:

Thanks! Is the PSU a good choice? Any better part choices for not much more?

The PSU will be perfectly sufficient. I think in your 500$ budget it would be hard to come up with something comparable. 

[Catbattle]

1 minute ago, Abyss Gaming said:

Why...? 7100 is legit barely any better than the G4560, atleast not worth twice the price better. I would say maybe get an RX 480 and get rid of cooler and save some money for games.

Not super worried about game money for now (Probably gonna spend the first week gawking at games like BeamNG drive and Rocket league played on something that isn't a gt 610. I will take out the cooler, but why a 480 instead of the 580? 580 is a much better choice if benchmarks are to be trusted.

[Catbattle]

2 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

The PSU will be perfectly sufficient. I think in your 500$ budget it would be hard to come up with something comparable. 

*600 usd

Allright great. I`ll probably still go through a couple more drafts knowing myself though...Haha rofl

[Guest]

Just now, TheCatShuriken said:

Not super worried about game money for now (Probably gonna spend the first week gawking at games like BeamNG drive and Rocket league played on something that isn't a gt 610. I will take out the cooler, but why a 480 instead of the 580? 580 is a much better choice if benchmarks are to be trusted.

I was just saying it cause you save some money and the other dude said 470... Go for the 580 if you arent worried about game money

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, TheCatShuriken said:

*600 usd

Allright great. I`ll probably still go through a couple more drafts knowing myself though...Haha rofl

indecision is a killer when it comes to building. Find what you like and what you think will give you the experience you want in your budget and go with it. As I mentioned in a previous thread with you, the only thing you should never skimp out on is the PSU. 

[Catbattle]

1 minute ago, Abyss Gaming said:

I was just saying it cause you save some money and the other dude said 470... Go for the 580 if you arent worried about game money

Allright will do! Just a question, I have seen some say the 480 is just as good, but I don't want to forcibly overclock it, while the 580 is at its full clock 24/7

 

1 minute ago, legacy99 said:

indecision is a killer when it comes to building. Find what you like and what you think will give you the experience you want in your budget and go with it. As I mentioned in a previous thread with you, the only thing you should never skimp out on is the PSU. 

Allright thanks. By the way, in your opinion does motherboard matter all too much? By that I mean can a Mobo self destruct and take out more than just the mobo with it?

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, TheCatShuriken said:

Allright will do! Just a question, I have seen some say the 480 is just as good, but I don't want to forcibly overclock it, while the 580 is at its full clock 24/7

 

Allright thanks. By the way, in your opinion does motherboard matter all too much? By that I mean can a Mobo self destruct and take out more than just the mobo with it?

Generally motherboards and CPUs dont go bad per say. Things start to die on them like RAM slots, I/O etc... Motherboard selection is more important when you are looking to overclock as you want to ensure strong power phases to ensure good voltage delivery to the CPU and components. At stock, non overclocking this isnt an issue. 

[Catbattle]

1 minute ago, legacy99 said:

Generally motherboards and CPUs dont go bad per say. Things start to die on them like RAM slots, I/O etc... Motherboard selection is more important when you are looking to overclock as you want to ensure strong power phases to ensure good voltage delivery to the CPU and components. At stock, non overclocking this isnt an issue. 

Ah ok. So it might stop working with age but it wont take down the rest of my computer with it like a PSU would. Good to know.

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, TheCatShuriken said:

Ah ok. So it might stop working with age but it wont take down the rest of my computer with it like a PSU would. Good to know.

Generally shouldnt, no. 

[Catbattle]

Just now, legacy99 said:

Generally shouldnt, no. 

Allright thanks for your help man! Really appreciate it.

[Sanctorum]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI H270M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($58.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: A 250 gb SSD (Purchased)
Other: A copy of win 10 my dad has. (Purchased)
Total: $577.30

 

I'd get the older B150M MORTAR ARCTIC over the B250 version since the B250 version drops XFire support for some reason. H270M MORTAR ARCTIC is best of both worlds though. I wouldn't get anything smaller than an 8GB DIMM these days. Get the 2TB HDD if you want, instead of the 1TB. Stock cooler will be fine, you can always add an aftermarket cooler later if wanted. Don't get a 212 EVO though. I also included a better/nicer RX 580 with a nice black/white backplate. Also larger PSU so with the B150/H270 MORTAR ARCTIC you have XFire support and can add a 2nd 480/580 at any point if you want.

[Catbattle]

2 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI H270M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($58.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: A 250 gb SSD (Purchased)
Other: A copy of win 10 my dad has. (Purchased)
Total: $577.30

 

I'd get the older B150M MORTAR ARCTIC over the B250 version since the B250 version drops XFire support for some reason. H270M MORTAR ARCTIC is best of both worlds though. I wouldn't get anything smaller than an 8GB DIMM these days. Get the 2TB HDD if you want, instead of the 1TB. Stock cooler will be fine, you can always add an aftermarket cooler later if wanted. Don't get a 212 EVO though. I also included a better/nicer RX 580 with a nice black/white backplate. Also larger PSU so with the B150/H270 MORTAR ARCTIC you have XFire support and can add a 2nd 480/580 at any point if you want.

Ah thanks. The thing with the mobo is it needs a bios update if its b150m and idk how to even so im just not gonna

[Shura]

If you can go over $600 a bit than this,

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vvmmHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vvmmHN/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $626.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 02:49 EDT-0400

 

If you can't than this,

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRH7qk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRH7qk/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $596.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 02:52 EDT-0400

 

Both builds will give you a 4Core/8Thread PC with overclocking capabilities and is a much better option if you want the build to last till 2020. Expecting the G4650 to last 3 more years and not bottleneck in games is impossible, it already bottlenecks in 1080p.

[Sanctorum]

10 hours ago, TheCatShuriken said:

Ah thanks. The thing with the mobo is it needs a bios update if its b150m and idk how to even so im just not gonna

Not necessarily. Motherboards leave the factory with the latest BIOS. So, as long as the motherboard hasn't been sitting in storage since 2016, it will have the relevant BIOS for Kaby Lake CPUs, like the G4560. Otherwise, you can ask whoever you buy the motherboard from to update the BIOS for you. Newegg and NCIX do this if asked. I'm sure other vendors do as well, but I know for a fact that Newegg and NCIX do, because I've had them do it before, with Haswell and Haswell Refresh era motherboards.

[Catbattle]

7 hours ago, Shura said:

If you can go over $600 a bit than this,

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vvmmHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vvmmHN/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $626.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 02:49 EDT-0400

 

If you can't than this,

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRH7qk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRH7qk/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $596.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 02:52 EDT-0400

 

Both builds will give you a 4Core/8Thread PC with overclocking capabilities and is a much better option if you want the build to last till 2020. Expecting the G4650 to last 3 more years and not bottleneck in games is impossible, it already bottlenecks in 1080p.

Not a bad build! Ill have to swap a couple things for cosmetic lol but might just work! Your right the pentium will bottleneck, buts its not a bad choice. 

 

3 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

Not necessarily. Motherboards leave the factory with the latest BIOS. So, as long as the motherboard hasn't been sitting in storage since 2016, it will have the relevant BIOS for Kaby Lake CPUs, like the G4560. Otherwise, you can ask whoever you buy the motherboard from to update the BIOS for you. Newegg and NCIX do this if asked. I'm sure other vendors do as well, but I know for a fact that Newegg and NCIX do, because I've had them do it before, with Haswell and Haswell Refresh era motherboards.

Really? Its cuz pcpartpicker says "some b150 boards may need a bios update before using kabylake" so I just dont want to deal with that. 

[Drake10114]

3 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

Not necessarily. Motherboards leave the factory with the latest BIOS. So, as long as the motherboard hasn't been sitting in storage since 2016, it will have the relevant BIOS for Kaby Lake CPUs, like the G4560. Otherwise, you can ask whoever you buy the motherboard from to update the BIOS for you. Newegg and NCIX do this if asked. I'm sure other vendors do as well, but I know for a fact that Newegg and NCIX do, because I've had them do it before, with Haswell and Haswell Refresh era motherboards.

OP would probably be safer/better on a 200 series chip-set, since it allows for upgradeability compared to using a 100 series boards. Hard to say if all boards though are updated in terms of the Bios. 

[RAM555789]

18 hours ago, TheCatShuriken said:

Allright will do! Just a question, I have seen some say the 480 is just as good, but I don't want to forcibly overclock it, while the 580 is at its full clock 24/7

 

Allright thanks. By the way, in your opinion does motherboard matter all too much? By that I mean can a Mobo self destruct and take out more than just the mobo with it?

About PSUs and them "blowing" up. I only ever had one PSU go on me and I belive its because I was cucling the power to much (turning it on and off) and the only thing it took was my CPU. The mobo, RAM, GPU, ect. all survived.

[Catbattle]

28 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

About PSUs and them "blowing" up. I only ever had one PSU go on me and I belive its because I was cucling the power to much (turning it on and off) and the only thing it took was my CPU. The mobo, RAM, GPU, ect. all survived.

I`ll spend like 50 usd on it but not much more.