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Im after a high refresh rate screen i can hang on my wall, so i can play at high hz on my own monitor while my guests watch me on a big screen mounted on the wall.    i always set my screens to duplicate but when i do, it always syncs my monitor to the refresh rate of the screen which is 60hz.  120 would be acceptable but the higher the better.   Would be a lot nicer for sharing VR experiences too.     Does it actually exist?  If so any recommendations?

 

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4 minutes ago, xLmarley said:

Im after a high refresh rate screen i can hang on my wall, so i can play at high hz on my own monitor while my guests watch me on a big screen mounted on the wall.    i always set my screens to duplicate but when i do, it always syncs my monitor to the refresh rate of the screen which is 60hz.  120 would be acceptable but the higher the better.   Would be a lot nicer for sharing VR experiences too.     Does it actually exist?  If so any recommendations?

 

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Doesn't actually exist. Tech Quickie has a vid

 

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You've probably heard this already, but could you not just use two different outputs and duplicate your screens? I don't know what GPU you are using, but on my FirePros, it has the same output regardless of the refresh rate and resolution. (I do have GPU scaling on, if you'd think that'd make any difference. You'd probably be looking at spending a pretty penny just to get a TV that could match your monitor.

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There's a difference between all those marketing hype terms like 120Hz, 240Hz, 600Hz subfield drive, etc. and actual refresh rates capable for a TV displaying output from a computer.  All of the 120Hz, etc. TVs are basically extrapolating intermediate images from the video feed, so it's fake sort of refresh.  Watch the video Cyndre referenced.

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1 minute ago, xLmarley said:

ive actually seen that video, thats why i was suspicious.   im a fool for thinking i wasnt being lied too lol

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4 minutes ago, TonyKramer said:

You've probably heard this already, but could you not just use two different outputs and duplicate your screens? I don't know what GPU you are using, but on my FirePros, it has the same output regardless of the refresh rate and resolution. (I do have GPU scaling on, if you'd think that'd make any difference. You'd probably be looking at spending a pretty penny just to get a TV that could match your monitor.

so you play at 120+ hz on your monitor and the TV duplicates it at a lower refresh rate?      mine always syncs to the lowest resolution and hz for both screens.

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2 minutes ago, xLmarley said:

has anyone ever tested what happens if you duplicate one of these "high hz" TVs to a legitimate high refresh rate monitor?

Pretty much outputs at whatever the standard is in your region for image refresh (NTSC, PAL standards) unless the TV specs call out something different for 'PC mode' on VGA for example.

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well thats bloody shite.   its the most niche thing ever but its something id really appreciate if it existed.    maybe it will come. we did see that super massive 40inch pc monitor the other day on ltt, maybe there will be a 144hz version soon lol

 

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well thats bloody shite.   its the most niche thing ever but its something id really appreciate if it existed.    maybe it will come. we did see that super massive 40inch pc monitor the other day on ltt, maybe there will be a 144hz version soon lol

 

Lol...it will cost more than a budget car when it comes out most likely.

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19 minutes ago, xLmarley said:

so you play at 120+ hz on your monitor and the TV duplicates it at a lower refresh rate?      mine always syncs to the lowest resolution and hz for both screens.

Well, I do something similar, I use Autodesk Fusion and Inventor across my 6 screen eyefinity monitor (at 6K) running at 75hz and mirror it to my 1080P 60Hz projector. It has the same output, and just... works. 

I spend most of my time on Autodesk and Caffe. CAD is great, as long as you know what you're doing.

 

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Yes, you can game on FirePro Cards, it's just overkill if you never use it's full abilities. 

 

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do you think it will work for my setup?        also thats totally fucking rad dude.   like seriously.     Ive never even thought about a projector but that would be sweeet and 6monitors god damn, that is some battle station you have.  

I don't know what GPU you have, my setup may be completely contingent on the fact that I have FirePro W9100s. But I believe that if you don't passive split the connections, but rather actively have different connections from the GPU with the same output, that should work.

I spend most of my time on Autodesk and Caffe. CAD is great, as long as you know what you're doing.

 

Watson: Ryzen 7 1800X, 32GB 3000Mhz Dominator Platinum, X370 MSI Pro Carbon, 2x FirePro W9100s, 2x 256GB Samsung 850EVO SSDs, 2x 6TB WD Raid 1 HDDs, Ghetto Custom Cooling and Case, Logitech G910 and G502, 3DConnection SpacePilot Pro, 6x 27" Viewsonic FHD Monitors, 2x 24" Acer FHD Monitors, Windows 10 Pro/Ubuntu 16.04 Dual.

 

Yes, you can game on FirePro Cards, it's just overkill if you never use it's full abilities. 

 

Sherlock: 128 Core Render Server (32 Nodes, Matched Core 2 Quads, 8GB DDR2) running HPC Service Pack 1 on Windows Server 2016. Just because, you know, who doesn't want to render in real time? (Plus I don't pay the power bill)

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Yeah, you should totally be able to do this, just enable GPU scaling from Nvidia control panel. Just make sure that both your monitor and tv have different physical connections to your computer. (DVI,HDMI,Displayport) Then just mess with the settings till you get it.

I spend most of my time on Autodesk and Caffe. CAD is great, as long as you know what you're doing.

 

Watson: Ryzen 7 1800X, 32GB 3000Mhz Dominator Platinum, X370 MSI Pro Carbon, 2x FirePro W9100s, 2x 256GB Samsung 850EVO SSDs, 2x 6TB WD Raid 1 HDDs, Ghetto Custom Cooling and Case, Logitech G910 and G502, 3DConnection SpacePilot Pro, 6x 27" Viewsonic FHD Monitors, 2x 24" Acer FHD Monitors, Windows 10 Pro/Ubuntu 16.04 Dual.

 

Yes, you can game on FirePro Cards, it's just overkill if you never use it's full abilities. 

 

Sherlock: 128 Core Render Server (32 Nodes, Matched Core 2 Quads, 8GB DDR2) running HPC Service Pack 1 on Windows Server 2016. Just because, you know, who doesn't want to render in real time? (Plus I don't pay the power bill)

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2 hours ago, xLmarley said:

Im after a high refresh rate screen i can hang on my wall, so i can play at high hz on my own monitor while my guests watch me on a big screen mounted on the wall.    i always set my screens to duplicate but when i do, it always syncs my monitor to the refresh rate of the screen which is 60hz.  120 would be acceptable but the higher the better.   Would be a lot nicer for sharing VR experiences too.     Does it actually exist?  If so any recommendations?

 

Thanks 

There are some, but they're very uncommon. I had one of the old Seiki 4K models could do true 120 Hz at 1080p (though only HDMI 1.4 so only 30 Hz at 4K). I know some older Vizio 4K models did true 120 Hz too, I don't know how the newer ones are. It takes a lot of research to find.

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13 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

There are some, but they're very uncommon. I had one of the old Seiki 4K models could do true 120 Hz at 1080p (though only HDMI 1.4 so only 30 Hz at 4K). I know some older Vizio 4K models did true 120 Hz too, I don't know how the newer ones are. It takes a lot of research to find.

i found the KS8000 and a few other TV sets that are reported to do 120Hz native refresh rate. but then they mention it may be motion interpolated, and only effective at 1080p. the newest LG OLED TVs can also do 1080p120 as reported in the owner's manual 

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