First time OC'ing G3258

[Nciwho]

Hey everyone, I decided to finally have the guts to OC. (I stole some guts I found at the hospital)

I decided to follow this guide

http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/intel_pentium_g3258_oc_guide/3.htm

and linus's guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBfXruwe8w4

 

Specs:

G3258, 212 Evo, Asus H97 ME

 

Main issue:

However I do have a problem, I do not have an adaptive mode for cpu core voltage.  

If you look at the LTT video I posted at 7:57 he changes the cpu core voltage to adaptive so it can later dial it down. But I don't seem to have that feature even though I am literally using the same exact asus UEFI. And I'm pretty sure I updated my UEFI in the summer so it's fairly new where as linus's video is much older and he already had it so that shouldn't be the issue.

 

 

Second minor issue 

And here's all the info on the cpu http://imgur.com/gallery/ep3Nm

First off, it'd be great if anyone can tell me what other info I should provide and if they see anything wrong.

I can tell you when I set the frequency to 47, the computer didn't boot and instead I got the blue screen saying it crashed. 

I assume I need more voltage but given that everyone says that 1.300 is already a fair amount and any more is pushing it, then I'll keep it there.

 

Also if you have any questions or suggestions on anything, I'll gladly answer because I'm VERY new to this. 

 

Third minor issue: 

PS, I forgot I had this, http://imgur.com/gallery/stNbB

I ran aida64 for quite a while just stressing CPU (not FPU) and temperatures were oddly low compared to one in the overclocksclub guide.

They were using a noctua NH D14 a very high end cooler where as I only have a 212 evo, it seems like something is wrong if that's the case.

 

Also sorry if this thread is all over the place

Edited January 29, 2017 by Nciwho
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[Nciwho]

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[Apache Protocol]

@Nciwho try 4.3 GHz at 1.300 Volts and see if it boot up to Windows, when I had a G3258 I got it at 4.7 GHz with a 1.451 Volts never killed the chip and temp never went up to 80C Using Hyper 212X at that time.

[Nciwho]

13 hours ago, Apache Protocol said:

@Nciwho try 4.3 GHz at 1.300 Volts and see if it boot up to Windows, when I had a G3258 I got it at 4.7 GHz with a 1.451 Volts never killed the chip and temp never went up to 80C Using Hyper 212X at that time.

4.3 seems too low for 1.300.

As you can tell by the linus's vid and the overclockers site, they got significantly more.

I'm more than confident it will work at 4.3 but it just seems too low.

But I appreciate your input

 

Also do you know how I can get that adaptive setting? All I see is manual and auto

[Apache Protocol]

1 hour ago, Nciwho said:

4.3 seems too low for 1.300.

As you can tell by the linus's vid and the overclockers site, they got significantly more.

I'm more than confident it will work at 4.3 but it just seems too low.

But I appreciate your input

 

Also do you know how I can get that adaptive setting? All I see is manual and auto

yes your right but not every chip is the same. so you may or may not have the same overclocking setting of Linus and MoBo are a lot different.

I cant say anything about chip set but I did overclock my g3258 on a b85 and as you can see 4.7 GHz over 1.451 Volts and Linus did his at a 1.365 and this was a lucky chip.

 

so look for a starting point.

 

Adaptive setting is just under voltage settings.

[Nciwho]

34 minutes ago, Apache Protocol said:

yes your right but not every chip is the same. so you may or may not have the same overclocking setting of Linus and MoBo are a lot different.

I cant say anything about chip set but I did overclock my g3258 on a b85 and as you can see 4.7 GHz over 1.451 Volts and Linus did his at a 1.365 and this was a lucky chip.

 

so look for a starting point.

 

Adaptive setting is just under voltage settings.

From what I understand, adaptive setting is meant to dial down everything when there's no need for it. So it won't be using so much power if I'm just browsing or writing up a document instead of having to be using 1.300 all the time. But I guess at this point I might as well either make go to 47 or 46 and crank up the voltage or do the opposite and keep stress testing so it won't crash. Would you agree with that?

 

Also are UEFIs different even if they look identical? For example Republic of Gamers is also by asus but the UEFI is completely different in appearance but the one Linus and I have look identical. And unlike bios, uefis typically are quite different from one another. So I wonder if this UEFI is specifically tailored to the H97 ME

 

 

[Apache Protocol]

19 minutes ago, Nciwho said:

From what I understand, adaptive setting is meant to dial down everything when there's no need for it. So it won't be using so much power if I'm just browsing or writing up a document instead of having to be using 1.300 all the time. But I guess at this point I might as well either make go to 47 or 46 and crank up the voltage or do the opposite and keep stress testing so it won't crash. Would you agree with that?

 

Also are UEFIs different even if they look identical? For example Republic of Gamers is also by asus but the UEFI is completely different in appearance but the one Linus and I have look identical. And unlike bios, uefis typically are quite different from one another. So I wonder if this UEFI is specifically tailored to the H97 ME

 

 

Spot on... so goodluck pushing that chip i had mine for 3-6months sold it with my msi h81m-p33 and purchase a new CPU i5 never look back.

 

[Nciwho]

39 minutes ago, Apache Protocol said:

Spot on... so goodluck pushing that chip i had mine for 3-6months sold it with my msi h81m-p33 and purchase a new CPU i5 never look back.

 

It seems you have a 4690. 

I had a 4690k that I sold in order to get this cpu. 

For 4-5 years use, I certainly don't mind saving 220 bucks for this G3258.

 

For the games that I play, it's absolute overkill. Although it's quite temping to sell both the mobo and the cpu for whateve ryzen has in store but time will tell once the benchmarks and prices come out. 

 

Until then, I need to figure out the OC sweet spot and find the adaptive settings to get the most out of the 50 bucks I spent on this thing. 

[That Norwegian Guy]

1 hour ago, Apache Protocol said:

yes your right but not every chip is the same. so you may or may not have the same overclocking setting of Linus and MoBo are a lot different.

Better to start pushing more than you think will work.

 

Example: 1.325v (I consider this the safe threshold for G3258) and 5Ghz. Try posting (it won't unless you're in the 2%)

Dial down the clock until you find where it boots.

Then check for stability with Prime95 and keep dialing down until you find a 24/7 stable frequency. My guess is 4.6-4.8Ghz depending on chip quality

[Nciwho]

3 hours ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

Better to start pushing more than you think will work.

 

Example: 1.325v (I consider this the safe threshold for G3258) and 5Ghz. Try posting (it won't unless you're in the 2%)

Dial down the clock until you find where it boots.

Then check for stability with Prime95 and keep dialing down until you find a 24/7 stable frequency. My guess is 4.6-4.8Ghz depending on chip quality

Yeah, I'll certainly try to play around. I don't have prime95 but I do have the temporary aida64 trial for this, since it's my first time overclocking.

I can try dialing in 1.325 at 5ghz and see what happens. I assume it won't ruin the cpu or the computer.

 

However the main issue here is the lack of an adaptive mode. I have no idea why it's gone but it won't be good for the electric bill if the cpu is always sucking out 1.325 ghz.

 

Edit: I tried and it didn't post. Just for kicks, I set it to 1.400 and it froze on the windows booting splash screen to which I had to do a hard restart to get out of.

So 5Ghz might be too extreme but 4.7 would be nice since quite a handful of these pentiums could get to it. I'm sure 1.325 would get me to 4.7 with stability however Linus advised against that voltage as did overclockers club in the op, both saying that 1.300v would be the safe limit.