Crossfire between APU and GPU

[SoraYuki]

Good day, I just wanna ask before building my AMD based rig, will AMD A10-7860K and AMD R7 360 go in Crossfire mode? I've been a bit concern cause i might not have the little bit of boost from the said Crossfire if ever. Thank you for responding in advance ~

[79wjd]

You can only crossfire with a 350/250x. But, don't get an APU if you're also getting a GPU.

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AMD Dual Graphics

[SoraYuki]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

You can only crossfire with a 350/250x. But, don't get an APU if you're also getting a GPU.

so R7 350 or 250x are the only choices for Crossfire if ever ? are also are there any GPU that can crossfire with that specific APU ?

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, SoraYuki said:

so R7 350 or 250x are the only choices for Crossfire if ever ? are also are there any GPU that can crossfire with that specific APU ?

Those are the best GPUs that can crossfire with the best APU (78xx). But regardless, a single 260x will outperform even the best APU + 250x crossfire. 

 

The bottom line is you really don't want to do an APU + GPU crossfire. 

[SoraYuki]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Those are the best GPUs that can crossfire with the best APU (78xx). But regardless, a single 260x will outperform even the best APU + 250x crossfire. 

 

The bottom line is you really don't want to do an APU + GPU crossfire. 

i'm really kinda lacking funds so i'm thinking of a bit of cheap option but yea thanks for the info

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, SoraYuki said:

i'm really kinda lacking funds so i'm thinking of a bit of cheap option but yea thanks for the info

What are your current specs? 

What's your location? 

What's your total budget? 

What games do you play? 

[SoraYuki]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

What are your current specs? 

What's your location? 

What's your total budget? 

What games do you play? 

<Spec Plan>
A10-7860K
MSI A68HM-E33 V2
Kingston Hyper X Fury 1866 16GB (2x8GB) or 8GB (2x4GB)
AMD Radeon R7 360 2GB GDDR5 128bit (now kinda thinking of switching to R7 350 2GB GDDR5)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" SATA
Asus CDDVD x24 Combo Drive
Thermal Take Smart SE 630w 80+ Gold
Coolermaster N200

I'm from the Philippines, budget is around 20k to 25k php and i mostly play games like Mafia II, Prototype, Crysis Series, Starcraft, Resident Evil, Dying Light, Assassin's Creed etc

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, SoraYuki said:

<Spec Plan>
A10-7860K
MSI A68HM-E33 V2
Kingston Hyper X Fury 1866 16GB (2x8GB) or 8GB (2x4GB)
AMD Radeon R7 360 2GB GDDR5 128bit (now kinda thinking of switching to R7 350 2GB GDDR5)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 3.5" SATA
Asus CDDVD x24 Combo Drive
Thermal Take Smart SE 630w 80+ Gold
Coolermaster N200

I'm from the Philippines, budget is around 20k to 25k php and i mostly play games like Mafia II, Prototype, Crysis Series, Starcraft, Resident Evil, Dying Light, Assassin's Creed etc

I would do this instead: 

• X4 860k/880k (whichever is cheaper) 
• FM2+ motherboard
• 8GB RAM (16gb if you have extra budget, although, I'd rather put that budget towards a better GPU unless you absolutely needed more than 8gb)
• RX 460 / GTX 950 / GTX 1050 
• 1TB HDD
• No Optical drive (unless you absolutely need it for something....)
• A different PSU -- something from tier 1-4 (tier 5 if absolutely necessary) from: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
• N200 

You should save enough money on the CPU to get a much better GPU. 

[SoraYuki]

4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I would do this instead: 

• X4 860k/880k (whichever is cheaper) 
• FM2+ motherboard
• 8GB RAM (16gb if you have extra budget, although, I'd rather put that budget towards a better GPU unless you absolutely needed more than 8gb)
• RX 460 / GTX 950 / GTX 1050 
• 1TB HDD
• No Optical drive (unless you absolutely need it for something....)
• A different PSU -- something from tier 1-4 (tier 5 if absolutely necessary) from: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
• N200 

You should save enough money on the CPU to get a much better GPU. 

i do hope that X4 880k with RX460 is available here in ph, since the spec i'm getting at are the available ones here, making it harder for me, one question will GT730 be defeated by a 7860k + R7 250X combo ?

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, SoraYuki said:

i do hope that X4 880k with RX460 is available here in ph, since the spec i'm getting at are the available ones here, making it harder for me, one question will GT730 be defeated by a 7860k + R7 250X combo ?

Yes. But there's no point in spending money on an APU if you're going to buy a GPU. An 860k/880k are basically identical to a 7860k but without integrated graphics, and generally are almost half the price. So with all the money you save by not getting an APU, you can buy a much better GPU. 

[Biggerboot]

I would personally go for the Pentium G4560 (Kaby Lake).  It's going to be a $70 cpu with hyperthreading.  It's still not quite out yet at retail but should be very soon.  It'll be cheaper and overall faster than the APU, and you can put the extra funds into an RX460 or GTX 1050.  The 860k suggestion I'm normally fine with but it's going to be an obsolete choice very soon.

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

I would personally go for the Pentium G4560 (Kaby Lake).  It's going to be a $70 cpu with hyperthreading.  It's still not quite out yet at retail but should be very soon.  It'll be cheaper and overall faster than the APU, and you can put the extra funds into an RX460 or GTX 1050.  The 860k suggestion I'm normally fine with but it's going to be an obsolete choice very soon.

If my memory serves correctly, Intel tends to be noticeably more expensive in the Philippines, and there's also the concern that any cheap motherboard (h110) will not have a compatible bios pre-flashed.

[SoraYuki]

19 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Yes. But there's no point in spending money on an APU if you're going to buy a GPU. An 860k/880k are basically identical to a 7860k but without integrated graphics, and generally are almost half the price. So with all the money you save by not getting an APU, you can buy a much better GPU. 

i see, thanks for the tip again, i will look into it

[Biggerboot]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

If my memory serves correctly, Intel tends to be noticeably more expensive in the Phillipines, and there's also the concern that any cheap motherboard (h110) will not have a compatible bios pre-flashed. 

If that's the case then go with the better deal in your country.  I still agree with the general philosophy that a solo CPU GPU combo is better than APU crossfire.  The 860k is essentially the same cpu with no iGPU, and you can put the money into a better GPU like the RX 460.