Single ranked ddr4 memory?

[john826472]

Hello i have a very simple question what is single ranked memory?

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct8g4dfs8213

[bgibbz]

Maybe just a different way to say single channel?

[john826472]

44 minutes ago, rrubberr said:

I don't think they say single ranked, then unbuffered, just for fun. I think that this is exactly what he wants, single ranked, but also not buffered.

Well I found this stick of ram 10 dollars cheaper than the other "normal" ram so that's why im curious

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Just now, Aladd2040 said:

Well I found this stick of ram 10 dollars cheaper than the other "normal" ram so that's why im curious

Single ranked means that it only has chips on a single side of the stick (or at least, that's what it means on my current 4GB DDR3 1333 stick). The Real problem is if you run single channel memory-even if you don't use it all, you will see stuttering in a lot of games-even old ones like Skyrim (using a 4790K+GTX 970 for example)

[john826472]

1 minute ago, rrubberr said:

It's basically kingston value RAM, but by crucial, meaning no bells and whistles.

Well that's fine the rest of the budget was allocated else ware since I'm doing non ram intensive tasks

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Just now, rrubberr said:

What even?

If you look in CPU-Z, under SPD, you'll see that the sticks with chips on on 1 side are shown to only have a single rank, and with chips on both sides dual rank.

And since I had my second 4GB stick of RAM die, even with the same (under 4GB) of memory usage I'm now seeing stuttering in games.

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Just now, rrubberr said:

So explain quad rank? 3d RAM?

They are also referred to as "low density", they are the sticks loaded with chips (far more than the normal 8). Here you go:http://www.dataram.com/blog/?p=32

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Just now, rrubberr said:

Also, unless you're running XP, chances are any games you play are spilling over into into disk cache.

They aren't-I checked resource manager.

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11 minutes ago, rrubberr said:

What games do you play, what OS are you running, and how high doe the usage get. I've seen BF1 pass 3 GB on low settings, and no modern OS can cram itself into under 1 GB. That was windows 98's job.

Windows 7 Pro (far lower memory consumption than Windows 10 Pro I've found), I've mainly been playing Skyrim (with mods), Skyrim SE, World of Warships/Tanks and Warthunder. With the same graphics settings as I had when I was running dual channel DDR3 1333, I'm now getting really bad stuttering-with the same CPU+GPU usage. Also, Windows 7 can cram itself to under 800MB of RAM usage, with Nvidia drivers+Antivirus pushing it to just over 1GB usage. BTW, Windows XP crams itself into under 128MB RAM, Windows 98SE and ME into well under 64MB, and Windows 95 was just fine with 16MB RAM.

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Just now, rrubberr said:

Haha, luck you, my windows 7 takes some 14 GB idleing. And yes, I see you lloked up the min-specs. Gj. Skyrim SE is a frigging hog if I've ever seen one, and I doubt it fits into that little ram at any settings worth playing; the same goes for Skyrim. You cant go parading this around as truth when you've changed multiple variables. Does your CPU support two channels? What is it?

Skyrim SE with the same mods that I use in Skyrim, uses less memory....and I already said, I'm using a 4790K with a GTX 970 (and on a Z97 Sabertooth MKII). And its the RAM, as the performance issues only occurred after the stick of RAM died and was removed. And you are really exaggerating about how much RAM your Windows 7 install is using. Unless its infected with malware...

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Just now, rrubberr said:

No, it's this little thing OSes have to do called "keepin' track of 192 GB + ECC bits of address space."

Oh....right. Your using a dual CPU workstation, not a single CPU gaming rig. That explains things.BTW, my Xeon X5450 with 4GB DDR2 1066 (dual channel, higher bandwidth+far lower latency than the single stick of DDR3 1333) and my GTX 970 don't have the same problem.

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17 minutes ago, rrubberr said:

I can't imagine how trashy ol' Skyrim is saturating10gb/s of bandwidth, but whatever floats your boat, friend.

3 words: Script Heavy Mods

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Just now, rrubberr said:

3 words: Mods aren't saturating 10 GB/s, but modded skyrim likely blew past your 4 gb 20 mods ago.

Do you do much Skyrim modding? Because when you use ENB, you can dramatically decrease memory usage.

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17 minutes ago, rrubberr said:

Oh, and you were right, not quite as much as I said.

Lets take this to PM, and hijack this topic no further.