Help with Video Editing & 3D Rendering Rig

[Normaron]

Hi, I am currently building a rig for Video (Adobe After Effects & Premiere Pro)  & 3D (Cinema 4D using Octane render which uses GPU for rendering) purpose. With limited budget, here are some of the parts I already decided. I will OC the CPU to gain the most out of it, I wish to get help/recommendation  for CPU Cooling, PSU and Casing. I plan to get 2nd GPU in near future (within 6-12 months) to increase my 3D rendering power.

 

For the CPU cooling, I am thinking of Noctua NH-U14S and I am more inclined to air cooling as I do not have any experience with water cooling. I hope the rig will be more quiet as well since there will be no pump.

 

The prices here are shown in AUD as I am at Australia now. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($865.00 @ Umart) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-Phoenix SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($449.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($329.23 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($218.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($323.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($595.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $2779.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-22 18:32 AEDT+1100

[Macimoar]

6 minutes ago, Normaron said:

For the CPU cooling, I am thinking of Noctua NH-U14S and I am more inclined to air cooling as I do not have any experience with water cooling. I hope the rig will be more quiet as well since there will be no pump.

 

If you're overclocking, it might be better to use an aio cooler like the Corsair H100i. It'll give you better performance, but like you said it will be louder so it's preference I guess.

[millerb415]

Can you wait about 3 months? AMD is releasing some new cpu that could prices down the prices and save a little cash. if not i would get a mobo in the 300 dollar range and instead of getting an 850 and 960 evo get it a 1 Tb 960 pro (unless you plan to use the 850 as solo cashe for the editing and 3d work) but would also get a large mechanical hdd

[joshfrog]

you dont need to have to much  experience  with water cooling you could get a corsair h100i or something but aslong as you get a good air cooler you should be good and theres always the option of running push pull on it.

your build looks like a good set up. it also gives you the option to go to 64gb of ram if you feel you need it.

its a good set up and as you said you will ad a 2nd gpu later i think your set

just make sure you have a powersupply to handle the cpu and for both cpus when you get the 2nd, some where around 800watts or more.

do you have a case in mind?

[Normaron]

3 minutes ago, millerb415 said:

Can you wait about 3 months? AMD is releasing some new cpu that could prices down the prices and save a little cash. if not i would get a mobo in the 300 dollar range and instead of getting an 850 and 960 evo get it a 1 Tb 960 pro (unless you plan to use the 850 as solo cashe for the editing and 3d work) but would also get a large mechanical hdd

The most I can wait is another month, not 3 months. I will use the M.2 960 Evo as system drive and, 850 for cache. I have a NAS for all my data storage. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Normaron said:

The most I can wait is another month, not 3 months. I will use the M.2 960 Evo as system drive and, 850 for cache. I have a NAS for all my data storage. 

Noctua nhd15 would be a better choice for cooling. if you want simething quiet then dark rock pro3

[Normaron]

4 minutes ago, joshfrog said:

you dont need to have to much  experience  with water cooling you could get a corsair h100i or something but aslong as you get a good air cooler you should be good and theres always the option of running push pull on it.

your build looks like a good set up. it also gives you the option to go to 64gb of ram if you feel you need it.

its a good set up and as you said you will ad a 2nd gpu later i think your set

just make sure you have a powersupply to handle the cpu and for both cpus when you get the 2nd, some where around 800watts or more.

do you have a case in mind?

Because this build will be in my own home office, so I wish that it will be quiet (actually I have never listen to how loud a water cooling pump is, and is leaking still a problem in water cooling nowadays? )
The case that is currently in my mind is Phanteks Enthoo Pro.

[millerb415]

1 minute ago, Normaron said:

The most I can wait is another month, not 3 months. I will use the M.2 960 Evo as system drive and, 850 for cache. I have a NAS for all my data storage. 

if that is the case than it looks good. i would recommend getting a workstation board for your mobo if you are going to spend that much on a mother board instead of a gaming one get a ws board sence it is mainly for editing they normal come with a better quality control and will sometimes give features like 10G lan if the place you are using the rig can benefit from the faster network speeds 

[joshfrog]

its quite the loudest part would be the fans if you turn them up to max theres very little sound from them.

leaking is always possible but the quality is much better, it doesnt rule it out at some point in time. 

[joshfrog]

a workstation or server board would work fine but are you still able to overclock on them? 

i would just stick with what you have the quality on workstation boards is better but its not like gaming boards are cheap crap.

 

[millerb415]

5 minutes ago, Normaron said:

Because this build will be in my own home office, so I wish that it will be quiet (actually I have never listen to how loud a water cooling pump is, and is leaking still a problem in water cooling nowadays? )
The case that is currently in my mind is Phanteks Enthoo Pro.

i am assuming that you need this for a living so i would stay with a air cooler they are more reliable and the only thing that can brake in them are the fans which can be replaced easily. now if the programs you where running were single threaded i would say to get a water cooler and push the overclock as far as possible but they are not so it is better to (in my opinion, in this instance) to not be aggressive with the overclock and just use a good air cooler to keep reliability for the longest time. maybay also think of instead of getting a 960 evo get 3 850s and Raid 1 2(this will be your system drive)  of them together so that way if by chance one of those drives fails you will still be able to use the computer and do not loose all the stuff on the system drive again this is because of the importance of reliability if this is how you make your living. 

[millerb415]

8 minutes ago, joshfrog said:

a workstation or server board would work fine but are you still able to overclock on them? 

i would just stick with what you have the quality on workstation boards is better but its not like gaming boards are cheap crap.

 

some of the workstation boards you can. the gaming boards are really good it is just for that price he could also get a workstation board that would be more geared to what he will be using the computer for. that is why i suggested it

[millerb415]

Are you going to be gaming on this or is it strictly business?

[Normaron]

8 minutes ago, millerb415 said:

i am assuming that you need this for a living so i would stay with a air cooler they are more reliable and the only thing that can brake in them are the fans which can be replaced easily. now if the programs you where running were single threaded i would say to get a water cooler and push the overclock as far as possible but they are not so it is better to (in my opinion, in this instance) to not be aggressive with the overclock and just use a good air cooler to keep reliability for the longest time. maybay also think of instead of getting a 960 evo get 3 850s and Raid 1 2(this will be your system drive)  of them together so that way if by chance one of those drives fails you will still be able to use the computer and do not loose all the stuff on the system drive again this is because of the importance of reliability if this is how you make your living. 

Currently I am not depending this for a living yet but I am going to use this to build a good portfolio and hopefully will be working independently in another year or 2. I wont try to push the limit of the CPU, just to get extra juice from it in stable & reliable condition. I do think about WS motherboard previously, but it cost almost twice compare to the board I chose. I will check on the options of doing the Raid, thx for the suggestion =) 

[millerb415]

ya the raid is the more important of the two because drives fail and it helps to protect you dont want to loose anything.

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, millerb415 said:

some of the workstation boards you can. the gaming boards are really good it is just for that price he could also get a workstation board that would be more geared to what he will be using the computer for. that is why i suggested it

All x99 are overclockable with no exceptions. The features in ws build might not be needed that much imo for the price difference

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Normaron said:

Currently I am not depending this for a living yet but I am going to use this to build a good portfolio and hopefully will be working independently in another year or 2. I wont try to push the limit of the CPU, just to get extra juice from it in stable & reliable condition. I do think about WS motherboard previously, but it cost almost twice compare to the board I chose. I will check on the options of doing the Raid, thx for the suggestion =) 

6850k is a poor value. Please get a 6800k. It offers same performance. 

[millerb415]

if it is strictly for editing and not gaming i would recommend getting a Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 for about $200 cheaper it is slower but gives you 2 more cores and get a   Asus X99-M WS for 550. you would loose the ability to have 128 gigs of ram in the future and be limited to 64 gigs but would gain ecc support and other benefits this is ONLY if this PC is only for editing and 3d rendering if you want to game on it then this would not be beneficial and would be worse

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, Normaron said:

Because this build will be in my own home office, so I wish that it will be quiet (actually I have never listen to how loud a water cooling pump is, and is leaking still a problem in water cooling nowadays? )
The case that is currently in my mind is Phanteks Enthoo Pro.

Water coolers are usually louder than air. Best silent cooler is Dark Rock Pro 3

 

Though if you want best performance then get Noctua NHD15, DRP3 still does superb job

 

[millerb415]

5 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

6850k is a poor value. Please get a 6800k. It offers same performance. 

the reasoning behind the 6850k would be for the 40 pcie lanes which he plans to use 36 of

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, millerb415 said:

the reasoning behind the 6850k would be for the 40 pcie lanes which he plans to use 36 of

Where? 

[Normaron]

44 minutes ago, millerb415 said:

Are you going to be gaming on this or is it strictly business?

There will be some gaming occasionally as I do enjoy playing games, but I do not mind playing my games in medium setting. I play games such as Cities: Skylines, Sid Meier's Civilization, Diablo 3 etc... 

[Normaron]

35 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Water coolers are usually louder than air. Best silent cooler is Dark Rock Pro 3

 

Though if you want best performance then get Noctua NHD15, DRP3 still does superb job

 

 

 

Thanks for the chart =D . I just watched the Dark Rock Pro 3 video by Linus Tech Tips and the ease of installing the cooler might be one of the deciding factor as I will be installing it alone by myself (my previous self custom build pc was almost 10 years ago).  The ease of installing on those Noctua model is a big plus for me. 

[Matias_Chambers]

8 hours ago, millerb415 said:

if it is strictly for editing and not gaming i would recommend getting a Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 for about $200 cheaper it is slower but gives you 2 more cores and get a   Asus X99-M WS for 550. you would loose the ability to have 128 gigs of ram in the future and be limited to 64 gigs but would gain ecc support and other benefits this is ONLY if this PC is only for editing and 3d rendering if you want to game on it then this would not be beneficial and would be worse

If he is using Adobe software, I'd stick with the 6 core. Premiere Pro likes fast cores as well as many cores.