2000$ gaming and streaming build

[Totalynotme]

Location: New York, United States of America 

Budget: ~2000$ USA  (Just pc tower, nothing outside of the case)

Purpose: Playing a game like Overwatch or Hearthstone at 1440p while streaming at 1080p 30fps

 

Hey, I need some advice for building a computer. I have been useing my pretty beefy gaming laptop up until now but it just doesn't keep up with me any more. Since I have pretty big performance requirements a desktop pc is definitely the way to go for me.  I just need help picking the parts that are inside of the case the rest I can handle. Here is a link to what I think is a decent set up.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PK2Myf

The only requirement on the parts is that I would really like a 7700k.  I plan on having two 1440p monitors. If that effects your decision making.

Also if you have some cool case recommendations that would be great.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Update: After some discussion and more research this is the build I currently like: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sYCnNN

It is 2100$USD total.

 

[Matias_Chambers]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNYCM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QNYCM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($349.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.89 @ B&H) Slightly better cooler.
Motherboard: MSI Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) Z270 mobo so you don't have to worry about BIOS updates.
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($154.97 @ Jet) Kind of expensive for 16 GB, but super fast. Do you really need 32 GB?  
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($475.99 @ SuperBiiz) NVMe speeds.
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($580.66 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ B&H) This is a great case.
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) This will be more than enough. 
Total: $2011.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-14 05:19 EST-0500

[RubenSA]

CPU- Intel Kaby Lake Core i7-7700K

Motherboard- ASUS ROG MAXIMUS IX CODE

GPU- ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 ROG Strix Advanced Edition

PSU- Antec High Current Gamer, 750w, 80 PLUS Bronze, Modular

 

With that build you will have a future proof pc and it is beefy as hell!

[Aereldor]

57 minutes ago, Totalynotme said:

 

 

24 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

 

Why not X99? This build goes 12% over budget ($2250)

• A six-core Core i7 5820k (almost on par with the 6800k).
• A GTX Titan XP.
• A 280mm AIO watercooling loop.
• A 750GB SSD.
• 16GB of DDR4 2666 MHz RAM.
• A reliable motherboard and power supply (Tier 3).
• A great-looking case.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Jet) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($203.98 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($91.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 750GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ Jet) 
Video Card: NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card  ($1200.00) 
Case: Deepcool DUKASE WHV2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2254.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-14 05:47 EST-0500

 

[Matias_Chambers]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

 

Why not X99? This build goes 11% over budget ($220), but is has-

• A six-core Core i7 5820k (almost on par with the 6800k)
• Two GTX 1080s in SLI.
• A 280mm AIO watercooling loop.
• A 750GB SSD.
• A reliable motherboard and power supply.
• A great-looking case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Jet) 
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($203.98 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($91.99 @ Jet) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 750GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ Jet) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($580.66 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($580.66 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool DUKASE WHV2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2225.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-14 05:39 EST-0500

Personally, I wouldn't get 2 1080's at this budget, but if he wants to he can. 

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Personally, I wouldn't get 2 1080's at this budget, but if he wants to he can. 

Ant without compromise too. Everything else in that build is a high-quality component. It goes slightly over budget, but I'm assuming he can afford to stretch a tiny bit on a $2000 budget when it gains him that much more performance and makes his build that much more future-proof.

 

The 7700k is only $20 less than the 5820k, which means the latter chip is better value.

 

Alternatively, at $1200 for the graphics cards, he could even get a Titan XP.

 

Edit: changing to a Titan XP ($1200).

[Matias_Chambers]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Ant without compromise too.

Slower RAM, smaller and slower SSD, Tier 3 PSU vs Tier 1 PSU. Not a huge difference but those are compromises. 

[Totalynotme]

2000$ budget is pretty flexible going 2500$ is not much of a problem.  2 gtx 1080's could be cool.

 

Btw you both recommend the same 1080 is that like just the bets value atm?

[Aereldor]

Just now, Totalynotme said:

2000$ budget is pretty flexible going 2500$ is not much of a problem.  2 gtx 1080's could be cool.

I changed the 2 GTX 1080s to 1 Titan XP instead. Check it out.

[Matias_Chambers]

6 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Ant without compromise too. Everything else in that build is a high-quality component. It goes slightly over budget, but I'm assuming he can afford to stretch a tiny bit on a $2000 budget when it gains him that much more performance and makes his build that much more future-proof.

 

The 7700k is only $20 less than the 5820k, which means the latter chip is better value.

 

Alternatively, at $1200 for the graphics cards, he could even get a Titan XP.

 

Edit: changing to a Titan XP ($1200).

And honestly you don't need X99. The 7700K will be the same if not better in some cases.

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Slower RAM, smaller and slower SSD, Tier 3 PSU vs Tier 1 PSU. Not a huge difference but those are compromises. 

They aren't significant compromises. Think of the RAM as a contributor to CPU performance, rather than its own. A 5280k with 2666 MHz RAM will still have more raw compute performance than a 7700k with 3600MHz RAM. Its effective performance isn't so much greater, as it has worse latency performance than the 2666 kit in my build (CL16 vs CL15). It's better, but not by an awful lot.

 

The SSDs capacity is 25% smaller, sure. However, the additional speed of an 960 EVO is not noticeable in regular use. Boot, launch, and load times will be a second or two faster at best.

 

I believe they're both TLC SSDs too.

[Aereldor]

6 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

And honestly you don't need X99. The 7700K will be the same if not better in some cases.

Does a 7700k outperform a 5820k in areas besides single-thread performance or performance per watt?

[Matias_Chambers]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Does a 7700k outperform a 5820k in areas besides single-thread performance or performance per watt?

No, but he doesn't need the extra cores. And the higher IPC and overclocking capabilities will make a difference in games and even day to day stuff like web browsing. The extra cores only make a difference in applications that actually use 6 cores and that would be something like rendering which he didn't say he was doing. And even in rendering the difference wont be huge. Only reason I can see for going X99 is if he is doing EXTREME multitasking. Stuff like rendering a video at the same time as playing GTA V and streaming it at the same time. 

[Totalynotme]

3 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

No, but he doesn't need the extra cores. And the higher IPC and overclocking capabilities will make a difference in games and even day to day stuff like web browsing. The extra cores only make a difference in applications that actually use 6 cores and that would be something like rendering which he didn't say he was doing. And even in rendering the difference wont be huge. Only reason I can see for going X99 is if he is doing EXTREME multitasking. Stuff like rendering a video at the same time as playing GTA V and streaming it at the same time. 

No major rendering and if I do, I can take a break from the gaming when I do render something.

[Matias_Chambers]

1 minute ago, Totalynotme said:

No major rendering and if I do, I can take a break from the gaming while I do render something.

And you wont be able to play games at the same time as rendering with no stutter and lower fps even with a 5820K. I have a 5820K and I have tried it. That's only if you use Adobe Premiere Pro CC though. With Sony Vegas you can play games at the same time as rendering with an i3 even (I've tried that to). It just causes the rendering to take longer. 

[Matias_Chambers]

11 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Does a 7700k outperform a 5820k in areas besides single-thread performance or performance per watt?

And there just isn't a huge difference even when rendering in 4K. Unless rendering is his job it's not worth it. https://youtu.be/9KIonWFMvIs?t=239

 

[Aereldor]

4 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

No, but he doesn't need the extra cores. And the higher IPC and overclocking capabilities will make a difference in games and even day to day stuff like web browsing. The extra cores only make a difference in applications that actually use 6 cores and that would be something like rendering which he didn't say he was doing. And even in rendering the difference wont be huge. Only reason I can see for going X99 is if he is doing EXTREME multitasking. Stuff like rendering a video at the same time as playing GTA V and streaming it at the same time. 

Modern titles like GTX V and Battlefield 1 actually use six cores and twelve threads.

 

Also, the argument applies to future-proofing to. The higher-end hardware you have, the more life you can squeeze out of it. For instance, someone with a Core 2 Quad Extreme CPU and a GTX 480 is still capable of playing the latest triple-A titles at 1080p. That's a seven-year-old GPU and a 10-year-old CPU. A chip that had more cores than the era's games could directly benefit from (two). 

 

If he can afford it, he might as well build a system that can last him a long time. 10 years might be a bit of a stretch, I'll admit. Also, the 5820k will be great if he ever decides to get into editing and rendering video; maybe for a gameplay channel. The 7700k performs admirably, but it will be beaten by the 5820k, which only costs about $20 more.

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

And there just isn't a huge difference even when rendering in 4K. Unless rendering is his job it's not worth it. https://youtu.be/9KIonWFMvIs?t=239

 

Huh. I did not anticipate that.

[Matias_Chambers]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Modern titles like GTX V and Battlefield 1 actually use six cores and twelve threads.

But the 7700K will still perform better. In some games even up to 10 fps or more. 

[Totalynotme]

Am I correct to assume that the x99 motherboard is just based of the 6 core cpu, is there any other advantages?

[Aereldor]

8 minutes ago, Totalynotme said:

Am I correct to assume that the x99 motherboard is just based of the 6 core cpu, is there any other advantages?

A greater upgrade path, for one. x99 is Intel's enthusiast platform, which means you can upgrade all the way to a 10-core Core i7 6950x.

 

While that's totally ridiculous now, if your CPU starts to give out in 5 or 6 years, you can shop for a used 6950x or Xeon and upgrade to that.

Games are beginning to favour more cores over clock speed, and I think this trend will continue for a while. I mean, hell, even cellphones have 8-core processors in them. 

[Totalynotme]

Another question I have is about the gpu, would a titian xp be better then 2 1080's?

 

Also 16 gb of ram should be fine right, we agree on that.