First Gaming PC Build- CPU Help

[Champion-Craig]

Hi I've been saving up and deciding which parts to buy to put in my first ever PC Build. I'm Canadian but going over to the United States to buy it because its so much cheaper   (HAVEN'T bought anything yet)

So far I have narrowed down this:

AMD FX-6300

EVGA Geforce GTX 760 2GB Edition

8GB of ram (1600mhz)

1TB Western Digital Black Hard drive.

700 watt OCZ Powersupply

Windows 7

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 9 Series Motherboard

Cooler Master Elite 430 Mid Tower ATX Case

Asus DRW- 24B1ST 24X Internal DVD Burner 

 

Please note- I have a Samsung 1600x900 monitor

 

My main goal is:

to reach 60 fps on maxed out settings on Star Wars the Old Republic

My other goals are:

to reach 60 fps on high or ultra settings on Planetside 2

to reach 60 fps on maxed out settings on Guild Wars 2

to reach 60 fps on High- Ultra settings on Battlefield 4

 

Now to the reason I made this the CPU, I've been wondering what to do about this and here are the options

Either I just buy the AMD FX 6300 Six Core 3.5ghz or I spend the extra $40 and get the AMD FX 8320 Eight Core 3.5ghz? I really dont have the money in my budget  to get an I5 3570K so either one of these cpu's are my destiny lol.

Will getting the AMD FX-8320 with the two extra cores increase my fps? Will increase the performance of my build. Any Suggestions and any help at all about the CPU is greatly appreciated! 

 

[Sarcasm]

I'd go for the Intel, especially if your games rely on per-core. If not, definitely get the 8320.

[Hirad123]

You could go 8320 if you want. Are you planning to overclock at all? If you are I would swap that board out for an Asus m5a97 board.

[ciprian97pop]

What buget do you have?

[MbV93]

No, stick with the FX-6300, it's fine. If you're going to spend 40-50 dollars more you better spend them switching that GTX 760 for an R9 280X, you'll get much better performance.

[Champion-Craig]

You could go 8320 if you want. Are you planning to overclock at all? If you are I would swap that board out for an Asus m5a97 board.

I do not plan to overclock. I might in a year or so but not by much.

[Hirad123]

I do not plan to overclock. I might in a year or so but not by much.

then stick with the same board and if you want a cpu upgrade go full balls to the walls 8350 cause no point in an 8320.

[Champion-Craig]

No, stick with the FX-6300, it's fine. If you're going to spend 40-50 dollars more you better spend them switching that GTX 760 for an R9 280X, you'll get much better performance.I 

I'm a Nvidia Fan for Graphics Card I want Physx and Shadowplay (My Geforce Experience) and all the cool things they offer. 

[Champion-Craig]

What buget do you have?

Well currently that all comes to $918.15 (includes all the parts and shipping) so the extra $40 will be my mark.

[Champion-Craig]

then stick with the same board and if you want a cpu upgrade go full balls to the walls 8350 cause no point in an 8320.

Is the 0.5ghz difference worth an extra  $40 (FX 8320 VS  FX 8350)?

[ciprian97pop]

Well currently that all comes to $918.15 (includes all the parts and shipping) so the extra $40 will be my mark.

Try to get this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Microcenter) 

CPU Cooler:  Be Quiet DARK ROCK PRO 2 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory:  A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($61.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card:  PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card  ($259.99 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Cooler Master N600 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $917.90

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-03 15:12 EST-0500)

It's better and it's almost one $1 cheaper

[Champion-Craig]

 

Try to get this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Microcenter) 

CPU Cooler:  Be Quiet DARK ROCK PRO 2 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory:  A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($61.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card:  PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card  ($259.99 @ Newegg) 

Case:  Cooler Master N600 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $917.90

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-03 15:12 EST-0500)

It's better and it's almost one $1 cheaper

 

Can I change that 7970 to a gtx 760? Im a Nvidia gpu fan (GEFORCE EXPERIENCE- Physx and Shadowplay etc.) And is the cpu cooler a screw in one or one of those thermal thingy's? 

[Wolfur]

Can I change that 7970 to a gtx 760? Im a Nvidia gpu fan (GEFORCE EXPERIENCE- Physx and Shadowplay etc.) And is the cpu cooler a screw in one or one of those thermal thingy's? 

 

GTX 760 works better with AMD CPUs but nontheless FX 6300 will bottleneck GTX 760 a bit.

 

I'd get a cheapest i5 (i5-4430/4440) + H87-G43 motherboard + GTX 660ti or GTX 760 (if you like Nvidia). You will have much higher frames per second.

[ciprian97pop]

Can I change that 7970 to a gtx 760? Im a Nvidia gpu fan (GEFORCE EXPERIENCE- Physx and Shadowplay etc.) And is the cpu cooler a screw in one or one of those thermal thingy's? 

Yes, you'll get with about 5fps less in games, but if you want those features..

and I don't have any clue what  you're trying to say about that cpu cooler

 

GTX 760 works better with AMD CPUs but nontheless FX 6300 will bottleneck GTX 760 a bit.

 

I'd get a cheapest i5 (i5-4430/4440) + H87-G43 motherboard + GTX 660ti or GTX 760 (if you like Nvidia). You will have much higher frames per second.

[Champion-Craig]

GTX 760 works better with AMD CPUs but nontheless FX 6300 will bottleneck GTX 760 a bit.

 

I'd get a cheapest i5 (i5-4430/4440) + H87-G43 motherboard + GTX 660ti or GTX 760 (if you like Nvidia). You will have much higher frames per second.

 

Yes, you'll get with about 5fps less in games, but if you want those features..

and I don't have any clue what  you're trying to say about that cpu cooler

 

How do you install is it like you have to screw in and plug in or one you have to use thermal paste for?

[Champion-Craig]

GTX 760 works better with AMD CPUs but nontheless FX 6300 will bottleneck GTX 760 a bit.

 

I'd get a cheapest i5 (i5-4430/4440) + H87-G43 motherboard + GTX 660ti or GTX 760 (if you like Nvidia). You will have much higher frames per second.

Can you find me a like $50 dollar case that will have no compatibility issues with the H87-G43 Front USB 3.0 Headers?

[Wolfur]

Can you find me a like $50 dollar case that will have no compatibility issues with the H87-G43 Front USB 3.0 Headers?

 

Sure, for example:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r

[Champion-Craig]

Sure, for example:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r

Thanks! Im going to go look at my budget reconfigure some things and see whats happens!

[Champion-Craig]

Sure, for example:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r

Whats your suggestion for a Power supply? Should I get a 600 watt or 700 watt OCZ Power supply? 

[Wolfur]

Whats your suggestion for a Power supply? Should I get a 600 watt or 700 watt OCZ Power supply? 

 

If you don't plan to get any SLI/Crossfire anyway, this is a good cheap supply:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500

 

If you want to shell out a bit more for a more quality of a supply:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/ocz-power-supply-oczzt550w

 

but the same wattage.

 

You won't need more than 500w power supply if you dont have at least 2 GPUs and you aren't overclocking CPU (you cannot overclock i5 4440).

[TechFan@ic]

I don't recommend OCZ powersupplies, Linus's 1000W Gold certified OCZ powersupply was the primary cause for the coil-buzz with the GTX Titan.

A locked Intel i5 will not last you very long and they're unjustifiably more expensive than the FX 6300 or FX 8320.
Get an Asus M5A97 R2.0 motherboard, pair it with an FX 8320, you can run your FX 8320 at FX 8350 speeds without any additional voltage, simply by going into the BIOS and bumping the multiplier.

 

[Champion-Craig]

If you don't plan to get any SLI/Crossfire anyway, this is a good cheap supply:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500

 

If you want to shell out a bit more for a more quality of a supply:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/ocz-power-supply-oczzt550w

 

but the same wattage.

 

You won't need more than 500w power supply if you dont have at least 2 GPUs and you aren't overclocking CPU (you cannot overclock i5 4440).

Well the main problem is I need all the parts to come from one supplier and adding the I5 and the motherboard adds $130 from the previous fx 6300 and gtx 760 etc. I really dont have the extra $130. Whats your opinion on the AMD FX 6300 and fx 8320 in games like SWTOR and Planetside?

[TERAFLOP]

Well the main problem is I need all the parts to come from one supplier and adding the I5 and the motherboard adds $130 from the previous fx 6300 and gtx 760 etc. I really dont have the extra $130. Whats your opinion on the AMD FX 6300 and fx 8320 in games like SWTOR and Planetside?

The Planetside 2 devs are optimizing for AMD CPUs.

[Wolfur]

The Planetside 2 devs are optimizing for AMD CPUs.

i'll believe it when I see it.

 

Planetside 2 currently runs like shit on everything but Intel is faster. Their main problem was NOT making this game use multiple threads and they are working on making it more multithreaded... except they've been trying to optimise it since it came out and to no avail.

[Wolfur]

Well the main problem is I need all the parts to come from one supplier and adding the I5 and the motherboard adds $130 from the previous fx 6300 and gtx 760 etc. I really dont have the extra $130. Whats your opinion on the AMD FX 6300 and fx 8320 in games like SWTOR and Planetside?

 

What's your total budget?

 

I'd get this if I were you:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ TigerDirect) 

Motherboard:  MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($98.98 @ OutletPC) 

Memory:  A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($61.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 

Case:  Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Microcenter) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Microcenter) 

Total: $850.92

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-03 16:30 EST-0500)

 

You're golden for High/Ultra settings in 1080p with this setup.

 

You could get a bit cheaper B85 motherboard if you wanted as well to save 10-20$ but you'd probably lose a few USB ports and stuff.