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I would go for 290x it trades blows in most games and will destroy 780 as the drivers are optimized and when it is overclocked with better coiolers

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I know you are sick of these questions, but would you recommend a 290x non-reference, or a non-referemce 780 for 1080p gaming?

There are currently no non-reference 290x cards. Probably not any coming until early 2014. Non-reference 780 cards are the same price as the reference 290x. From the few water cooled benchmarks I have seen of the 290x it doesn't overclock that well, even under water (only 100-150 MHz). Compare this to the 780 which can easily do that on air. Currently I would recommend the 780 or wait until next Friday when the 780 ti comes out to see if AMD drops any prices (probably not but you never know).

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I know you are sick of these questions, but would you recommend a 290x non-reference, or a non-referemce 780 for 1080p gaming?

Well once the non reference 290x are out the 780ti will be out and then we will see again.

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780 all day. You have better cooling, huge OC potential and on top of that it's even cheaper.

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I'd go with Gigabyte, custom PCB and beefier VRM, also it's cheaper than the others.

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780 all day. You have better cooling, huge OC potential and on top of that it's even cheaper.

i dont think your better cooling point or your OC point has any plus to it.

he was referring to both non reference cards so cooling can be considered fairly equal. and we dont know how well non reference 290x OC's.

but ti is at a very attractive price point atm 

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I always recommend EVGA due to the customer service, warranty and the Step Up program (if with in 90 days of buying your card you want to upgrade to a better version/newer model you just pay the difference in the costs).

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i dont think your better cooling point or your OC point has any plus to it.

he was referring to both non reference cards so cooling can be considered fairly equal. and we dont know how well non reference 290x OC's.

but ti is at a very attractive price point atm 

Yes, but remember there are no non-reference 290x cards and it will probably be sometime in January before we see any, though we will probably have benchmarks before then.

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Yes, but remember there are no non-reference 290x cards and it will probably be sometime in January before we see any, though we will probably have benchmarks before then.

yes fair enough but the question is very specific referring to non-reference cards. the most accurate answer to his question is we dont know but we could guess

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i dont think your better cooling point or your OC point has any plus to it.

he was referring to both non reference cards so cooling can be considered fairly equal. and we dont know how well non reference 290x OC's.

but ti is at a very attractive price point atm

No one cares about non-reference 290X'es, they are far in the future and don't affect OC in any way, the card didn't OC past 100Mhz on water.

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No one cares about non-reference 290X'es, they are far in the future and don't affect OC in any way, the card didn't OC past 100Mhz on water.

Only thing it will really bring is better temps than 95C.

Honestly, HOLD out for the 780Ti... you'll be happy you did.

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