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850 Evo or Intel 600p for Maximus Hero VII (7)

BlackFireBR

I'm looking for a 500GB SSD for less than 200 USD.


What do I want with the SSD:
 - Shorter gaming load times 
-  Durability and long lifespan
-  Storage Capacity (At least 500GB)


File transfer speed has to be decent, but it's not the most important thing for me.
Both of these two SSDs have a similar price, but one is Sata, and the other is a M.2 PCIe 4x Nvme 
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For gaming load speeds, from what I've seen, there no much difference between the two, but the file transfer speed from the Intel 600p is significantly better than the 850 evo, and the price is similar.

 

Problem is, I have a Asus Maximum Hero VII:
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Manual: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1150/MAXIMUS-VII-HERO/E9192_Maximus_Vii_Hero.pdf
A Z97 motherboard with a M.2 PCIe 2x only connector, which from what I've read, it has a limitation of 1000Mb/s (2 * 500), so I will be getting a slower performance than expected.

I thought about buying a PCIe NVME Adapter Card, but those cost more than 40 bucks, making the M.2 solution more expensive than the sata and I want it to save as much money as possible.

So, my question is: Is it still worth getting the Intel 600p, or should I just get the 850 evo instead?

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I'd suggest the 850 evo because from what I've read, the 600p has some strange performance issues.

I own one personally, and it's crazy fast, especially when using the RAPID RAM caching 

 

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Yup the Intel 600p has a non-optimal cache configuration which slows it down a bunch during larger transfers. At least that's what people told me back in the day when I decided between an Intel 600p and a Samsung 850 Evo myself - got the Evo, really happy with it. Currently waiting for another one to put in my laptop

 

Also, NVMe drives are for moving huge bulks of storage fast (we're talking more than 100-200GB in a single transfer), and not for load times, so you will get no noticable benefit from an NVMe drive for gaming compared to a regular SATA SSD.

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3 minutes ago, steffeeh said:

Yup the Intel 600p has a non-optimal cache configuration which slows it down a bunch during larger transfers. At least that's what people told me back in the day when I decided between an Intel 600p and a Samsung 850 Evo myself - got the Evo, really happy with it. Currently waiting for another one to put in my laptop

 

Also, NVMe drives are for moving huge bulks of storage fast (we're talking more than 100-200GB in a single transfer), and not for load times, so you will get no noticable benefit from an NVMe drive for gaming compared to a regular SATA SSD.

Right, I would always recommend an NVMe to a photo/video editor but not to a gamer (only if they can afford it)

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Your motherboard does not support PCIe 3.0 x4 storage in M.2 slot, just saying. So you will not be getting the results that 600p benchmarks show. 

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Thank you for the replies, I had no idea the 600p had this bad reputation, good thing you guys alerted me.

 

26 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Thank you for showing me this link. I think I would totally buy the mx300 750GB if the price was 169.99, but the store they say they have to this price in stock, once you get in the store, it's unavailable, and the other ones are more expensive.

About the mx300, I've heard it performs worse than the 850 evo, and it uses TCL, and the lifespan is shorter than the 850 evo. I'm considering buying the mx300 525GB which is 129 USD. Do you think it's a good idea or I would be better off with the 850 evo instead?

10 minutes ago, jj9987 said:

Your motherboard does not support PCIe 3.0 x4 storage in M.2 slot, just saying. So you will not be getting the results that 600p benchmarks show. 

Yes, I know, I wrote this in my post, but it supports PCIe x2, which goes up to 1000MB/s and the 850 evo will go only up to 500Mb/s, but I didn't know about the performance issues mentioned here, regarding the 600p

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1 minute ago, BlackFireBR said:

About the mx300, I've heard it performs worse than the 850 evo, and it uses TCL, and the lifespan is lesser than the 850 evo. I'm considering buying the mx300 525GB which is 129 USD. Do you think it's a good idea or I would be better off with the 850 evo instead?

The 850 is also TLC you know. It's just magical TLC because Samsung struck a deal with the devil or something.

 

I would get the 525GB MX300. Under normal circumstances it will take decades to fill its TBW quota.

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You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

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Computer Specs:

Spoiler

Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333

Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR

 

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