System Wont POST With GPU

[Arcanyx]

So I had been working on reviving an old PC, original thread here: 

I got the components moved into a new case, and then tried to get it to POST. The computer turned on, and then a short beep came from the motherboard; no display on the monitor at this point (HDMI connected to the GPU). Did some troubleshooting - reseeding RAM, checked power and SATA cables, etc - and realised that when I removed the GPU, I could get the PC to work just fine and there was a display coming from the integrated graphics. Managed to install Linux Mint on the new SSD I added, and I kept trying to get the GPU to work without any luck. Power seems fine as the card's fan is spinning, but for some reason it will not POST into anything.

 

Any advice on this?

[Hboyd]

whats your motherboard model and have you tried installing the drives then putting you gpu in?

[Deli]

Normally when you install a GPU, the motherboard will automatically switch to using PCIe-GPU. But somehow, it doesn't, and still use the iGPU from the CPU. You have to go to the BIOS, and manually set the "graphics output" from PCIe, hence the graphics card.

[Hboyd]

1 minute ago, Deli said:

Normally when you install a GPU, the motherboard will automatically switch to using PCIe-GPU. But somehow, it doesn't, and still use the iGPU from the CPU. You have to go to the BIOS, and manually set the "graphics output" to PCie, hence the graphics card.

why would it be making an beep error code it would just use the onboard graphics

[Arcanyx]

It's an Acer OEM board, LGA775 socket.

 

I'm getting the error code only when I have the GPU installed and try to turn the PC on; does this sound like the motherboard is trying to use the iGPU on its own? I did try plugging the screen in via the iGPU when the GPU is installed, but there's no difference. The beep still happens and nothing is shown on the display.

[Hboyd]

we cant diagnose the beep since its a OEM board but try to install the drivers without the graphics card then insert it

[Deli]

19 minutes ago, Hboyd said:

we cant diagnose the beep since its a OEM board but try to install the drivers without the graphics card then insert it

Linux Mint will install all the necessary drivers itself, it's very much plug and play. No need for installing chip set driver, graphics drivers all those shits, unlike Windows.

[Quaker]

Does your graphics card require a 6 or 8-pin PCIe power connection and if so, did you connect it?

 

Also, what model of graphics card and what's the wattage of you power supply?

[Arcanyx]

The card is an old G100 - doesn't require any power connection, and it came with the OEM system itself and it had worked fine before I moved the parts from an old Acer case to a new Bitfenix one. PSU is a 300W Liteon from the original OEM PC as well.

 

I do know that Linux Mint has the easy driver install option, but since I can't get it to even POST with the GPU in I can't get to that.

 

At this point I know at least the fan on the card works, and that the CPU/mobo/RAM are all working without the GPU in there.

[Murilo_A]

Try to use the same GPU in another computer, and other GPU in the computer you are trying to use.

 

If the GPU doesn't works in another computer, it's the GPU problem

If other GPU doesn't works in the same computer, the problem is probably related to the motherboard

[Murilo_A]

On ‎12‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 0:50 PM, Hboyd said:

we cant diagnose the beep since its a OEM board but try to install the drivers without the graphics card then insert it

You can't install the drivers without having the GPU installed, when you try to install it will say that you don't have the components you are trying to install the driver for. And also, if it's not POSTing, the OS doesn't have nothing to do with that.

[Arcanyx]

I'll probably give it a shot testing it in another system and see what happens from there. Curious though, what could be the scenarios where the GPU fans spin and yet wouldn't allow the PC to POST?

[Murilo_A]

On ‎17‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 2:52 AM, Arcanyx said:

I'll probably give it a shot testing it in another system and see what happens from there. Curious though, what could be the scenarios where the GPU fans spin and yet wouldn't allow the PC to POST?

PCI-E problems, if the GPU or mobo has a problem in the PCI-E slot, the GPU will be powered on by the PSU connectors, but won't trasmit/receive any data to/from the mobo.

[DragonTamer1]

On 11/16/2016 at 11:52 PM, Arcanyx said:

I'll probably give it a shot testing it in another system and see what happens from there. Curious though, what could be the scenarios where the GPU fans spin and yet wouldn't allow the PC to POST?

I had a similar problem with my 480 when I tried to install it. The fans would spin and the logo would light up but no video out. In my case it came down to flashing the BIOS to the latest version fixed the problem. I'm not entirely sure why you would be having trouble since you already said that this system was working fine before.

 

Is it possible that a setting in the BIOS got cleared that would allow it to work with the card?

 

You should definitely try what @Murilo_A suggested and try swapping cards through different systems. This was how I learned that my 480 wasn't DOA and it just didn't work with my motherboard.

[Arcanyx]

On 11/19/2016 at 6:46 AM, Murilo_A said:

PCI-E problems, if the GPU or mobo has a problem in the PCI-E slot, the GPU will be powered on by the PSU connectors, but won't trasmit/receive any data to/from the mobo.

 

On 11/19/2016 at 10:36 AM, DragonTamer1 said:

I had a similar problem with my 480 when I tried to install it. The fans would spin and the logo would light up but no video out. In my case it came down to flashing the BIOS to the latest version fixed the problem. I'm not entirely sure why you would be having trouble since you already said that this system was working fine before.

 

Is it possible that a setting in the BIOS got cleared that would allow it to work with the card?

 

You should definitely try what @Murilo_A suggested and try swapping cards through different systems. This was how I learned that my 480 wasn't DOA and it just didn't work with my motherboard.

Thanks for the info. I haven't been able to test the GPU in another system just yet but I'm honestly hoping it isn't a PCIE slot issue.

 

In addition to that, if somehow it's a problem with the G100 card, I was wondering if getting a new low-end GPU would be a good idea (assuming it isn't a motherboard issue). Any thoughts on this?

 

Alternatively if its the motherboard, I'm unsure if the E8400's integrated graphics can sustain use as a HTPC - which could mean I'll have to look for a new motherboard perhaps?

[Murilo_A]

17 hours ago, Arcanyx said:

 

Thanks for the info. I haven't been able to test the GPU in another system just yet but I'm honestly hoping it isn't a PCIE slot issue.

 

In addition to that, if somehow it's a problem with the G100 card, I was wondering if getting a new low-end GPU would be a good idea (assuming it isn't a motherboard issue). Any thoughts on this?

 

Alternatively if its the motherboard, I'm unsure if the E8400's integrated graphics can sustain use as a HTPC - which could mean I'll have to look for a new motherboard perhaps?

If it's the GPU, you should test if the iGPU can handle what you want, but before you buy the first GPU you find, see these videos:

 

If it's a mobo problem, than you should consider buying a mobo on ebay for your system.

[DragonTamer1]

18 hours ago, Arcanyx said:

 

Thanks for the info. I haven't been able to test the GPU in another system just yet but I'm honestly hoping it isn't a PCIE slot issue.

 

In addition to that, if somehow it's a problem with the G100 card, I was wondering if getting a new low-end GPU would be a good idea (assuming it isn't a motherboard issue). Any thoughts on this?

 

Alternatively if its the motherboard, I'm unsure if the E8400's integrated graphics can sustain use as a HTPC - which could mean I'll have to look for a new motherboard perhaps?

If it is just the card then you can buy another low end card to replace it. I needed a dedicated GPU for my HTPC since the integrated graphics were too weak for 1080p. I ended going with an HD 6450 silent from Asus. I grabbed it for $30 or something and it works just fine.