Help me choose a build

[militant83]

Ok here are two builds that I have put together on pc parts picker. My intended use for this is a home office PC and content creation workstation using Adobe CC (Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Photoshop mostly) and Microsoft Office will be the main uses. I might play in some pro tools as well.

Keep in mind on the xeon build I can source the cpus used on ebay for about $75 a piece on ebay and I'm sure there is a slightly cheaper MOBO option as well. But in its current state its only $100 over my i7 build. What are everyone's thoughts on which build would suit my intended use best. I'm not really interested in over clocking much either. I've done research on similar setup and I've seen both being used. I'm new to building PCs so I wanted a little more input. 

 

Xeon build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 2.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($179.98 @ Amazon)
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2650 2.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($179.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($58.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($58.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z9PE-D8 WS SSI EEB Dual-CPU LGA2011 Motherboard  ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($213.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card  ($669.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2773.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 14:41 EDT-0400

 

i7 build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH X99 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($298.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($162.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($162.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card  ($669.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2610.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 14:51 EDT-0400

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[Matias_Chambers]

Will you be gaming at all?

[Matias_Chambers]

Clock speed also helps in Premiere.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tG9hjc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tG9hjc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus X99-A II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($198.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($108.69 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($576.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($103.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Samsung 960 PRO 1 TB ($600.00)
Total: $2362.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 15:21 EDT-0400

[Matias_Chambers]

Just now, Matias_Chambers said:

Clock speed also helps in Premiere.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tG9hjc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tG9hjc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($428.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus X99-A II ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($198.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($108.69 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($576.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($95.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($103.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Samsung 960 PRO 1 TB ($600.00)
Total: $2362.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 15:21 EDT-0400

If you want, you can get the 2 TB version of the 960 PRO for 1300$. 

[brob]

Why 3x500GB ssd?

 

 

[militant83]

24 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Will you be gaming at all?

No gaming strictly a productivity machine

19 minutes ago, brob said:

Why 3x500GB ssd?

 

1 as a boot drive and two in raid 0 scratch drive.. I know that might be a little overkill but..you can never have too much storage lol

 

[brob]

21 minutes ago, militant83 said:

No gaming strictly a productivity machine

 

SSD in RAID 0 do not have the same behavior as hdd. If speed is the goal consider a 4-lane M.2 drive like the Samsung 960 Evo/Pro or 950 Pro.

 

But I suspect that one would realize much better overall performance simply using a 1TB or 2TB Samsung ssd. A single large drive also offers better wear leveling which should mean better component life.

 

[militant83]

58 minutes ago, brob said:

SSD in RAID 0 do not have the same behavior as hdd. If speed is the goal consider a 4-lane M.2 drive like the Samsung 960 Evo/Pro or 950 Pro.

 

But I suspect that one would realize much better overall performance simply using a 1TB or 2TB Samsung ssd. A single large drive also offers better wear leveling which should mean better component life.

 

I was told otherwise but either way not a big deal it will just save me a few bucks by not getting the third ssd.  My biggest concern is which CPU/Motherboard combo is going to be best for my intended use.

[brob]

1 hour ago, militant83 said:

I was told otherwise but either way not a big deal it will just save me a few bucks by not getting the third ssd.  My biggest concern is which CPU/Motherboard combo is going to be best for my intended use.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-benchmark,3485-13.html provides some hard data. It is a little dated, but still useful. 

 

Unless one is working with highly complex effects/resolutions/spread sheets, it is unlikely that one could come close to fully utilizing 16 cores with 32 hyperthreads. Not to say that that such a system will perform better than one with a single i7-6800K. Fewer newer, (i.e. more powerful), cores clocked nearly 30% higher and running significantly faster memory will likely perform as well or better in most situations.

 

[militant83]

3 hours ago, brob said:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-benchmark,3485-13.html provides some hard data. It is a little dated, but still useful. 

 

Unless one is working with highly complex effects/resolutions/spread sheets, it is unlikely that one could come close to fully utilizing 16 cores with 32 hyperthreads. Not to say that that such a system will perform better than one with a single i7-6800K. Fewer newer, (i.e. more powerful), cores clocked nearly 30% higher and running significantly faster memory will likely perform as well or better in most situations.

 

Being that prices isn't a factor since they both come in around the same price range. What are the pros and cons that would make one better than the other?

 

[brob]

35 minutes ago, militant83 said:

Being that prices isn't a factor since they both come in around the same price range. What are the pros and cons that would make one better than the other?

 

CPU? The Xeons would be better in very highly multi-threaded heavy work loads.

 

The i7-6800K would be better in lighter multi-threaded work loads. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-2015-Multi-Core-Performance-Update1-806/ and https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-Multi-Core-Performance-698/ suggest that this would be a better performing cpu for Premier Pro.