Frame drops on good computer?

[Material]

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Ive noticed that on some games that I get really bad frame drops for a couple seconds at a time and then it goes right back to normal and this cycle repeats itself indefinitely. It seems to be the worst on Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1 (beta), overwatch, and Fallout 4. It seems that no matter what graphical settings I have the game on I still will see these drops that can go down to the mid 20's. Is this maybe a driver issue or maybe a DirectX optimization issue and how should I go about fixing it?

[DarkBlade2117]

Only thing in your system that would indicate stuttering is your CPU

[Material]

Just now, DarkBlade2117 said:

Only thing in your system that would indicate stuttering is your CPU

Alright, what would you recommend? I have it clocked @4.1GHZ rn, should I kick it up a bit? I mean overwatch cant be that CPU intensive and I still get these frame drops.

[DarkBlade2117]

2 hours ago, Material said:

Alright, what would you recommend? I have it clocked @4.1GHZ rn, should I kick it up a bit?

If you can, go ahead. If I were you I would deal with it for a bit more if you want to completely remove it and wait for Kaby Lake and or Zen in hopes of CPU prices coming down a bit.

A slightly higher OC should help a bit.

[Energycore]

Just now, Material said:

Alright, what would you recommend? I have it clocked @4.1GHZ rn, should I kick it up a bit?

Overclocking may help, turning down settings related to the CPU like shadow quality may help as well.

[Material]

Alright I'll see if I can push it to 4.4 and I'll turn down some shader settings and see if it helps. 

[Energycore]

Just now, Material said:

Alright I'll see if I can push it to 4.4 and I'll turn down some shader settings and see if it helps. 

Most shader settings are GPU related (texture resolution, anysotropic filtering), CPU bound settings are shadows, water geometry, physics and level of detail to a degree.

[Squish4058]

21 minutes ago, Material said:

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Ive noticed that on some games that I get really bad frame drops for a couple seconds at a time and then it goes right back to normal and this cycle repeats itself indefinitely. It seems to be the worst on Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1 (beta), overwatch, and Fallout 4. It seems that no matter what graphical settings I have the game on I still will see these drops that can go down to the mid 20's. Is this maybe a driver issue or maybe a DirectX optimization issue and how should I go about fixing it?

I have had this problem with my system where its due to the GPU not actually having an order or priority of what to render. what happens is
GPU renders something (can be anything) really well, but it spends all its cache and essentially gpu power on something stupid like a door, it boost clocks and everything, then when it renders other stuff its too tired.
The solution for me was to download a program which can limit the FPS of other programs
I used one called RivaTuner Statistics server, you can set .exe files in it, and set a max FPS for it. Make sure the server is running in the notification area when running your games

[Material]

Okay I OC my system to 4.4 and it made no difference. I tried battlefield 1 on its lowest settings and tried switching to DirectX12 and it also made no difference.

[Material]

6 minutes ago, kris2340k said:

I have had this problem with my system where its due to the GPU not actually having an order or priority of what to render. what happens is
GPU renders something (can be anything) really well, but it spends all its cache and essentially gpu power on something stupid like a door, it boost clocks and everything, then when it renders other stuff its too tired.
The solution for me was to download a program which can limit the FPS of other programs
I used one called RivaTuner Statistics server, you can set .exe files in it, and set a max FPS for it. Make sure the server is running in the notification area when running your games

 

So I should download that and but the game .exes in that and max it at 60?

[LabRat]

a couple things come to mind. number 1, heat. you have water cooling on the cpu and nothing cooling the components around the cpu. ( I would also hook the pump wire to a fan header and not the cpu header ).

number 2, the 970. I have one and when people want come here asking about the gtx970, I say buy something else. every game  that is demanding i run the card has at least one major hiccup for a few seconds and then continues with no problems.

 the software that installs with the nvidia driver is crap, all of it. it eats into system resources unnecessarily. just run the graphics driver and the phsx driver..

not so sure I like that power supply but it might just be enough.

[Material]

2 minutes ago, LabRat said:

a couple things come to mind. number 1, heat. you have water cooling on the cpu and nothing cooling the components around the cpu. ( I would also hook the pump wire to a fan header and not the cpu header ).

number 2, the 970. I have one and when people want come here asking about the gtx970, I say buy something else. every game  that is demanding i run the card has at least one major hiccup for a few seconds and then continues with no problems.

 the software that installs with the nvidia driver is crap, all of it. it eats into system resources unnecessarily. just run the graphics driver and the phsx driver..

not so sure I like that power supply but it might just be enough.

 

I have case fans and the temps are fine, 70 at the worst for the cpu. As far as the 970 performance goes it should handle 1080p 60FPS with 0 problems.

[Pauleh]

11 minutes ago, LabRat said:

a couple things come to mind. number 1, heat. you have water cooling on the cpu and nothing cooling the components around the cpu. ( I would also hook the pump wire to a fan header and not the cpu header ).

number 2, the 970. I have one and when people want come here asking about the gtx970, I say buy something else. every game  that is demanding i run the card has at least one major hiccup for a few seconds and then continues with no problems.

 the software that installs with the nvidia driver is crap, all of it. it eats into system resources unnecessarily. just run the graphics driver and the phsx driver..

not so sure I like that power supply but it might just be enough.

What are you on about that PSU? That PSU is plenty fine. He isn't even close to the watt limit, and it's a well built unit.

[LabRat]

there's power supplies and there's power supplies.

don't care about whatever temps you are reading. the other components ( not the cpu and not the gpu ) get hot. forget the case fans. what happens if you hang or install in an approved ( provided spot ) on the side panel a 120mm ( or whatever fan ) and blow air onto the cpu area?

I'm using a machine right now very similar to what you have, and that simple implementation made a big difference.

[Tirant]

I think you could be running into more of a software problem. Take a look at task manager next time you're running a game (or in general) and see if there is something hogging your CPU (such as services). You can also try increasing the priority of games. Specifically to Battlefield titles, I have a 12 thread CPU, so I set

 

Thread.ProcessorCount 12
Thread.MaxProcessorCount 12
Thread.MinFreeProcessorCount 0
Thread.JobThreadPriority 2

 

in my user.cfg file. In your case, this might help, since you have an 8 thread CPU.

[Material]

Oh the irony

 

I ended up downclocking the chip to 4GHZ to see if the thermal difference would make an impact, and it seems as if it did. Back to ultra settings and 70fps no problem.

Anyways, thanks guys!

[Energycore]

5 minutes ago, Material said:

Oh the irony

 

I ended up downclocking the chip to 4GHZ to see if the thermal difference would make an impact, and it seems as if it did. Back to ultra settings and 70fps no problem.

Anyways, thanks guys!

Lol that's kind of counter intuitive but it makes sense.

 

Use your BIOS to set a higher fan speed on your cooler fans and that may help with temps. The FX CPUs throttle at 70 degrees.

[Material]

Just now, Energycore said:

Lol that's kind of counter intuitive but it makes sense.

 

Use your BIOS to set a higher fan speed on your cooler fans and that may help with temps. The FX CPUs throttle at 70 degrees.

 

I use speedfan to control my fans, but thanks man! I built this PC when I was 15 and didnt know much, wish I knew then what I know now

[Squish4058]

9 hours ago, Material said:

So I should download that and but the game .exes in that and max it at 60?

yeah give it a shot, i put some fps games limit to 120 like planetside or fallout 4.
Basically in fallout 4 it would render the loading screen to over 800 fps, then when the loading screen went the gpu dropped from 100% usage to 3% for at least 15 minutes