Power Options and Overclocking

[Whosonicus]

I have already asked this question, but 1 person answered with vague information.

 

My Processor would run at 3GHz on ~5% utilization and up to 4GHz when gaming (~80% utilization). High Performance in Power Options.

However it would run at 2.99GHz (ish) on ~75% utilization. Balanced Power Options.

Is my CPU automatically overclocking?

Athlon X4 750k

 

All according to Windows task manager, CPUID HWMonitor, MSI Afterburner+RivaTuner.

[iiNNeX]

4 minutes ago, Whosonicus said:

I have already asked this question, but 1 person answered with vague information.

 

My Processor would run at 3GHz on ~5% utilization and up to 4GHz when gaming (~80% utilization). High Performance in Power Options.

However it would run at 2.99GHz (ish) on ~75% utilization. Balanced Power Options.

Is my CPU automatically overclocking?

Athlon X4 750k

 

All according to Windows task manager, CPUID HWMonitor, MSI Afterburner+RivaTuner.

Well seeing as the CPU is only rated at 3.4ghz out of the box, depending on your motherboard and BIOS settings it could be automatically overclocking it (my old asus hero did that on my 4790k). I'd just leave it on high performance but check the bios settings, just incase it is giving it too much voltage on the auto OC, or just do a manual OC with safer settings.

 

What are the temps like ?

[Whosonicus]

3 minutes ago, iiNNeX said:

Well seeing as the CPU is only rated at 3.4ghz out of the box, depending on your motherboard and BIOS settings it could be automatically overclocking it (my old asus hero did that on my 4790k). I'd just leave it on high performance but check the bios settings, just incase it is giving it too much voltage on the auto OC, or just do a manual OC with safer settings.

 

What are the temps like ?

 

Temps in Balanced can reach up to 75 C

And High Performance can reach up to 80 C (This ok for a AMD CPU?)

 

I notice little performance increase when switching from Balance to High Performance.

[iiNNeX]

9 minutes ago, Whosonicus said:

 

Temps in Balanced can reach up to 75 C

And High Performance can reach up to 80 C (This ok for a AMD CPU?)

 

I notice little performance increase when switching from Balance to High Performance.

Well in my other PC I have an FX6300 and that thing never goes above 52c under full load with a noctua cooler on it. So to me 80 is too high but probably within the safety limits of your CPU still so it should be okay. And those temps, are they under benchmarking or are you talking about gaming ?

 

And as far as performance well you won't notice huge gains unless the game is CPU bound (very few are). That said however, have you checked to see if the CPU is throttling in games and downclocking as a result?

[iiNNeX]

9 minutes ago, Whosonicus said:

 

Temps in Balanced can reach up to 75 C

And High Performance can reach up to 80 C (This ok for a AMD CPU?)

 

I notice little performance increase when switching from Balance to High Performance.

Well in my other PC I have an FX6300 and that thing never goes above 52c under full load with a noctua cooler on it. So to me 80 is too high but probably within the safety limits of your CPU still so it should be okay. And those temps, are they under benchmarking or are you talking about gaming ?

 

And as far as performance well you won't notice huge gains unless the game is CPU bound (very few are). That said however, have you checked to see if the CPU is throttling in games and downclocking as a result?

[SpaceGhostC2C]

4 hours ago, Whosonicus said:

I have already asked this question, but 1 person answered with vague information.

 

My Processor would run at 3GHz on ~5% utilization and up to 4GHz when gaming (~80% utilization). High Performance in Power Options.

However it would run at 2.99GHz (ish) on ~75% utilization. Balanced Power Options.

Is my CPU automatically overclocking?

Athlon X4 750k

 

All according to Windows task manager, CPUID HWMonitor, MSI Afterburner+RivaTuner.

 

No. Your CPU has more than speed, just like a car has more than one gear. One typically speaks of "overclock" when increasing speeds beyond the default values set by the manufacturer. You are running your processor at exactly at specs. No overclocking.

 

Your CPU has the following states, all of which are enabled by default and involve no overclocking of any kind, manual or automatic:

 

Boost  #1: 4000 MHz -> applies to only one core, while the other three are set to some power saving value (see below). Only used when tasks load one core only.
Boost #2: 3700 MHz -> applies to only two cores, while the other 2 are set to some power saving value (see below). Only used when tasks load two cores only.

 

Base: 3400 MHz -> applied to 3-4 cores when more than two cores are under load (if only 3, the remaining may or may not enter some power saving state)

 

Power saving  #1: 3000 MHz -> Run a bit slower to save energy on low/no tasks
Power saving  #2: 2600 MHz -> Run even slower, not really much to do
Power saving  #3: 2300 MHz -> Even slower, it's getting boring
Power saving  #4: 1900 MHz -> waiting...
Power saving  #5: 1400 MHz -> basically you forgot to turn your PC off, there's nothing for your CPU to do

 

Jokes aside, clocks will fluctuate in each core depending on their load, and following the specified rules about how many cores can be enter a given boost state simultaneously.

Essentially, your CPU is running as it's meant to be ran.

[Whosonicus]

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51 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

 

No. Your CPU has more than speed, just like a car has more than one gear. One typically speaks of "overclock" when increasing speeds beyond the default values set by the manufacturer. You are running your processor at exactly at specs. No overclocking.

 

Your CPU has the following states, all of which are enabled by default and involve no overclocking of any kind, manual or automatic:

 

Boost  #1: 4000 MHz -> applies to only one core, while the other three are set to some power saving value (see below). Only used when tasks load one core only.
Boost #2: 3700 MHz -> applies to only two cores, while the other 2 are set to some power saving value (see below). Only used when tasks load two cores only.

 

Base: 3400 MHz -> applied to 3-4 cores when more than two cores are under load (if only 3, the remaining may or may not enter some power saving state)

 

Power saving  #1: 3000 MHz -> Run a bit slower to save energy on low/no tasks
Power saving  #2: 2600 MHz -> Run even slower, not really much to do
Power saving  #3: 2300 MHz -> Even slower, it's getting boring
Power saving  #4: 1900 MHz -> waiting...
Power saving  #5: 1400 MHz -> basically you forgot to turn your PC off, there's nothing for your CPU to do

 

Jokes aside, clocks will fluctuate in each core depending on their load, and following the specified rules about how many cores can be enter a given boost state simultaneously.

Essentially, your CPU is running as it's meant to be ran.

 

 

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Did I forget to say thank you?

 

4 hours ago, iiNNeX said:

Well in my other PC I have an FX6300 and that thing never goes above 52c under full load with a noctua cooler on it. So to me 80 is too high but probably within the safety limits of your CPU still so it should be okay. And those temps, are they under benchmarking or are you talking about gaming ?

 

And as far as performance well you won't notice huge gains unless the game is CPU bound (very few are). That said however, have you checked to see if the CPU is throttling in games and downclocking as a result?

These temps are Gaming (Armored Warfare, Overwatch, Warface, even Minecraft D:).

Using Hyper T2 cooler. Just realized thermal paste is to little. So that's that.

 

When I tried Hero's of The Storm, there were other information about which settings where CPU dependent, like Physics and... That's about it... Do you know by any chance which games or settings in games that rely on CPU?

 

Last question.

What is Throttling?

 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

You're welcome

 

2 minutes ago, Whosonicus said:

 

Last question.

What is Throttling?

 

It's when the motherboard reduces the speed of the CPU because it detected that it's past its temperature limit, it's drawing more power than the maximum it is supposed to, or both. By "throttling it down" (reducing its speed), temperatures gradually decrease back to safe levels.

[Whosonicus]

Thx again.

 

From what I have seen, I do not see my Processor throttling. It does fluctuate (transitions from game menu to loading screen to actual game).