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On 8/13/2016 at 9:39 PM, gamerking said:

when you want to wipe the flash drive have fun =) its a pain unless you know the disk part commands

I HAVE FIGURED IT OUT!!! It was not the Usbs or the FreeNAS its self BUT the ISO to USB installer that i used "ISO to USB." That installer did not make it a bootable device. AFTER using something else I was able to Boot and install a fresh ISO of freeNAS. The Iso to usb i now use is Rufus. IT works amazing. Thank you for all the help. In the end it was my stupidity that made it work and made me not check my ISO to USB.

Hello All,

 

After blackouts of my house i went to re boot my Nas to which it i was presented with This nas key can not boot. System Halted. Can someone please explain why my nas is not booting.

 

Thanks 

 

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Did you try turning it off and back on again? 

In all honesty after power loss sometimes you just need to turn it off, unplug it for a few, and start it again. 

 

Other than that it may have been damaged or corrupted. 

Give us some details and we can try to help(NAS or the build, OS, etc)

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Os: Freenas

If it was as simple as turning it off i wouldn't be on here. I left it off for 3 days and turned it back on. 

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31 minutes ago, MrSheep110 said:

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If it was as simple as turning it off i wouldn't be on here. I left it off for 3 days and turned it back on. 

pc hardware specs pls

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Optiplex 780,

I3 _ dont know what series

8 Gb of Generic ram.

2Tb of WD Reds. 

These specks are irrelevant in my opinion because it was working just fine before the black outs, only after the black outs did it fail to boot. So I know its not any of the hardware. 

17 hours ago, gamerking said:

pc hardware specs pls

 

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24 minutes ago, MrSheep110 said:

Optiplex 780,

I3 _ dont know what series

8 Gb of Generic ram.

2Tb of WD Reds. 

These specks are irrelevant in my opinion because it was working just fine before the black outs, only after the black outs did it fail to boot. So I know its not any of the hardware. 

 

 

no they are needed since your not running amd so that line of questions is not needed .

it may be hardware very easy for something to go wrong im guessing no ups only surge protector .

start simple way

did you try a new flash drive with a fresh install of freenas. just to test if the system boots . if it does , did you test to see if the freenas flash drive works in another pc not booting just to see if it is detected  the one in question. if not your blackout killed it . use a backup on the new flash drive to get your settings back if you saved them on the reds .

 

if  the nas wont boot anything try removing cmos and draining the system power then . pull battery and try to turn it on with the power unpluged from the  system psu on with no power cord . wait 5 mins put battery back in power to psu then try to see if it will boot with the new flash drive with freenas .

 

if it doesn't work then try another os one that doesnt need a flash drive, live disk of linux windows on a hdd ect . 8gb is the bare min i hope you know 16gb is the true min if your were doing anything more then a file server . 1gb of mem per 1tb of storage

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3 hours ago, gamerking said:

 

no they are needed since your not running amd so that line of questions is not needed .

it may be hardware very easy for something to go wrong im guessing no ups only surge protector .

start simple way

did you try a new flash drive with a fresh install of freenas. just to test if the system boots . if it does , did you test to see if the freenas flash drive works in another pc not booting just to see if it is detected  the one in question. if not your blackout killed it . use a backup on the new flash drive to get your settings back if you saved them on the reds .

 

if  the nas wont boot anything try removing cmos and draining the system power then . pull battery and try to turn it on with the power unpluged from the  system psu on with no power cord . wait 5 mins put battery back in power to psu then try to see if it will boot with the new flash drive with freenas .

 

if it doesn't work then try another os one that doesnt need a flash drive, live disk of linux windows on a hdd ect . 8gb is the bare min i hope you know 16gb is the true min if your were doing anything more then a file server . 1gb of mem per 1tb of storage

Dont worry I did my research before i built my nas. I know that 8Gb is the minimum (Technically 4gb actually is the minimum.) Thats why it is just a place for my family to put Documents for anything they need on another computer. 

I will update on how it is working after doing the reset.

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7 minutes ago, MrSheep110 said:

Dont worry I did my research before i built my nas. I know that 8Gb is the minimum (Technically 4gb actually is the minimum.) Thats why it is just a place for my family to put Documents for anything they need on another computer. 

I will update on how it is working after doing the reset.

4gb was for the 32bit version 8gb is now the min off of the download page

http://www.freenas.org/hardware-requirements/

 

Minimum Hardware Requirements:

These specifications will suffice to get a small FreeNAS install running reliably with moderate performance for a few users.

  • Multicore 64-bit* processor (Intel strongly recommended)
  • 8GB* Boot Drive (USB Flash Drive suffices)
  • 8GB* RAM
  • At least 1 direct attached disk (Hardware RAID strongly discouraged)
  • One physical network port

* FreeNAS no longer supports 32-bit hardware. The last FreeNAS Release with 32-bit hardware support was FreeNAS 9.2.1.9. This release also supported the UFS filesystem. Deployments on 32-bit hardware using UFS had lower hardware requirements of a 4GB boot device and 4GB of RAM. PLEASE NOTE that further security and stability updates to the 9.2.1.x branch are not guaranteed.

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Update: New usb no matter the size the server gives the same message then the system hults
 

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On 8/7/2016 at 7:36 PM, gamerking said:

4gb was for the 32bit version 8gb is now the min off of the download page

http://www.freenas.org/hardware-requirements/

 

Minimum Hardware Requirements:

These specifications will suffice to get a small FreeNAS install running reliably with moderate performance for a few users.

  • Multicore 64-bit* processor (Intel strongly recommended)
  • 8GB* Boot Drive (USB Flash Drive suffices)
  • 8GB* RAM
  • At least 1 direct attached disk (Hardware RAID strongly discouraged)
  • One physical network port

* FreeNAS no longer supports 32-bit hardware. The last FreeNAS Release with 32-bit hardware support was FreeNAS 9.2.1.9. This release also supported the UFS filesystem. Deployments on 32-bit hardware using UFS had lower hardware requirements of a 4GB boot device and 4GB of RAM. PLEASE NOTE that further security and stability updates to the 9.2.1.x branch are not guaranteed.

So no Size Of Usb New or Old has worked to boot. it says "This Nas data disk can not boot the system. System halt"

I now am out of ideas

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So no Size Of Usb New or Old has worked to boot. it says "This Nas data disk can not boot the system. System halt"

I now am out of ideas

so a new flash drive with a new install of freenas did not work correct . try booting without any HDD attached to the system , see if it will boot . i dont think so but it cant hurt to try . only other option is something is screwed up on the MB either hardware or some software side of it the uefi boot order/bios order

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6 minutes ago, gamerking said:

so a new flash drive with a new install of freenas did not work correct . try booting without any HDD attached to the system , see if it will boot . i dont think so but it cant hurt to try . only other option is something is screwed up on the MB either hardware or some software side of it the uefi boot order/bios order

I like to pride my self on knowing tech terms bit what do you mean by MB

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22 minutes ago, gamerking said:

so a new flash drive with a new install of freenas did not work correct . try booting without any HDD attached to the system , see if it will boot . i dont think so but it cant hurt to try . only other option is something is screwed up on the MB either hardware or some software side of it the uefi boot order/bios order

Uefi boot doesn't see the drive. I have it set to legacy boot so that it will boot into the usb

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4 minutes ago, MrSheep110 said:

Uefi boot doesn't see the drive. I have it set to legacy boot so that it will boot into the usb

try another os linux or windows on a hdd/ssd see if it boots if it does its freenas causeing the problem

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1 hour ago, gamerking said:

try another os linux or windows on a hdd/ssd see if it boots if it does its freenas causeing the problem

Yes it is a FreeNas problem

 

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9 minutes ago, MrSheep110 said:

Yes it is a FreeNas problem

 

then your done with freenas till you get support from their forums . i had 0 luck with them getting support when my nas ran it . get a linux distro and just mount your zfs pools as long as they weren't in raid on the MB  then i have no clue how to do it .

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24 minutes ago, gamerking said:

then your done with freenas till you get support from their forums . i had 0 luck with them getting support when my nas ran it . get a linux distro and just mount your zfs pools as long as they weren't in raid on the MB  then i have no clue how to do it .

They Where Mirror raided so it should be good. I shal get Linux Distro and try that Thanks for all the help.

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when you want to wipe the flash drive have fun =) its a pain unless you know the disk part commands

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3 minutes ago, gamerking said:

when you want to wipe the flash drive have fun =) its a pain unless you know the disk part commands

I have Ways Around it

 

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On 8/13/2016 at 9:39 PM, gamerking said:

when you want to wipe the flash drive have fun =) its a pain unless you know the disk part commands

I HAVE FIGURED IT OUT!!! It was not the Usbs or the FreeNAS its self BUT the ISO to USB installer that i used "ISO to USB." That installer did not make it a bootable device. AFTER using something else I was able to Boot and install a fresh ISO of freeNAS. The Iso to usb i now use is Rufus. IT works amazing. Thank you for all the help. In the end it was my stupidity that made it work and made me not check my ISO to USB.

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