Planning for a new PC

[prav_1102]

Hi Guys,

 

I currently have or  should I say had a very old (8 years) quad core 2 @ 2.4 Ghz processor with an intel DG33 FB motherboard with 4 GB (2 sticks) DDR2 ram. couple of weeks ago. my computer just shutdown accidentally and the next morning it didn't boot up. I figured out that the Motherboard is gone for good and I am not able to find a suitable replacement Mother board. so here I am planning to build a new PC. 

 

1. Budget & Location

I am from India and I am planning to buy the PC in US via Amazon. my budget is $550 USD. I can certainly increase my budget if required.

 

2. Aim

I mainly use my system for day to day activity like web browsing, listening to music, watching movies and on the professional front I would like build VM's and test the enterprise software's. 

 

3. Monitors

 

I am planing to use only one full HD monitor. just last month I replaced my old monitor with an AOC i2369VM in purchased in India. if it comes to upgrade I might upgrade my monitor to an 4K monitor if gets cheaper. also at times I might be connecting my PC to my 4k Vu TV (not just yet, planning to buy later this year or next year).

 

4. Peripherals

 

I am not planning to buy any new peripherals except for good pair of speakers as my old 2.1 creative speakers. looks likes the left speaker is not properly working. I am planning to buy the speakers in India itself as the shipping + duty fees will just double the price of the speakers. I am planning to run the PC on windows but not planning to buy it as I already have it.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

well I have answered this question in the first few lines itself. 

[glitchmaster0001]

12 minutes ago, prav_1102 said:

Hi Guys,

 

I currently have or  should I say had a very old (8 years) quad core 2 @ 2.4 Ghz processor with an intel DG33 FB motherboard with 4 GB (2 sticks) DDR2 ram. couple of weeks ago. my computer just shutdown accidentally and the next morning it didn't boot up. I figured out that the Motherboard is gone for good and I am not able to find a suitable replacement Mother board. so here I am planning to build a new PC. 

 

1. Budget & Location

I am from India and I am planning to buy the PC in US via Amazon. my budget is $550 USD. I can certainly increase my budget if required.

 

2. Aim

I mainly use my system for day to day activity like web browsing, listening to music, watching movies and on the professional front I would like build VM's and test the enterprise software's. 

 

3. Monitors

 

I am planing to use only one full HD monitor. just last month I replaced my old monitor with an AOC i2369VM in purchased in India. if it comes to upgrade I might upgrade my monitor to an 4K monitor if gets cheaper. also at times I might be connecting my PC to my 4k Vu TV (not just yet, planning to buy later this year or next year).

 

4. Peripherals

 

I am not planning to buy any new peripherals except for good pair of speakers as my old 2.1 creative speakers. looks likes the left speaker is not properly working. I am planning to buy the speakers in India itself as the shipping + duty fees will just double the price of the speakers. I am planning to run the PC on windows but not planning to buy it as I already have it.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

well I have answered this question in the first few lines itself. 

namaste, and my question is to you. do you mind buying used parts? because i got the perfect solution for you in the used market. 

[Shahnewaz]

Hmm, what do you think of this build?

 

First recommendation is all from Amazon India:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (₹24649.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: MSI CSM-H110M Pro-VHL Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (₹5200.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (₹5890.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (₹3675.00 @ Amazon India)
Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (₹6390.00 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (₹4675.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹50479.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-19 11:44 IST+0530

 

Second recommendation is a US part list recommendation, but you can hunt for the same or similar parts in your local store if you'd like that route.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($297.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $544.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-19 02:16 EDT-0400

[prav_1102]

On 6/19/2016 at 11:00 AM, glitchmaster0001 said:

namaste, and my question is to you. do you mind buying used parts? because i got the perfect solution for you in the used market. 

Actually I am from down south, where we greet with "vanakam" in Tamil. I would love to, but if something goes wrong I wouldn't find a replacement and repair for that in India. also I am planning to use this PC for at least next 6 to 8 years without much of modification. so I prefer to go with a new PC thank you for your offer though. 

[prav_1102]

On 6/19/2016 at 11:45 AM, Shahnewaz said:

Hmm, what do you think of this build?

 

First recommendation is all from Amazon India:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (₹24649.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: MSI CSM-H110M Pro-VHL Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (₹5200.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (₹5890.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (₹3675.00 @ Amazon India)
Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (₹6390.00 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (₹4675.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹50479.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-19 11:44 IST+0530

 

Second recommendation is a US part list recommendation, but you can hunt for the same or similar parts in your local store if you'd like that route.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($297.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $544.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-19 02:16 EDT-0400

thank you for the suggestion, I would like to go with Amazon US as I have some GC to use. can you please tell me if giabyte is better than Asus, as I was under an impression that the latter is better. also I would like to go for standard atx board as it comes with the option to expand the memory and HDD's and other add on on cards as and when needed.  I forgot to mention that I already have a one 2 TB (new) and one 250 GB (old ) seagate HDD. so I would like to use them as well in combination with the existing drives. 

[Shahnewaz]

4 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

can you please tell me if giabyte is better than Asus, as I was under an impression that the latter is better.

Neither is "better". In fact, Gigabyte is more reliable.

4 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

also I would like to go for standard atx board as it comes with the option to expand the memory and HDD's and other add on on cards as and when needed.

Both motherboards have 4 SATA ports for expansion. 16GB of memory is more than enough for all your needs. The only reason you'd want to go ATX is for SLI or Crossfire configurations, which is bad.

4 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

 I forgot to mention that I already have a one 2 TB (new) and one 250 GB (old ) seagate HDD. so I would like to use them as well in combination with the existing drives. 

That's fine. Just use them and ignore the one on my list.

 

And as requested, the list from Amazon US:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($297.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($52.31 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $572.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-20 13:07 EDT-0400

[prav_1102]

20 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

Neither is "better". In fact, Gigabyte is more reliable.

Thank you for the clarification, I was under an impression that Asus is better than Gigabyte.

 

20 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

Both motherboards have 4 SATA ports for expansion. 16GB of memory is more than enough for all your needs. The only reason you'd want to go ATX is for SLI or Crossfire configurations, which is bad.

 

certainly I don't need both SLI or Crossfire. I was referring to sound cards or LAN or Wireless cards which I may need to add in future in case of a failure on on board cards. 

20 hours ago, Shahnewaz said:

That's fine. Just use them and ignore the one on my list.

 

And as requested, the list from Amazon US:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($297.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($52.31 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $572.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-20 13:07 EDT-0400

I do have few more questions like do I really need a 520W bronze certified PSU, can't I go with a typical 400W or 450W PSU especially considering the PC components that I am currently using. also what's your opinion on  Enermax Ostrog ATX Black for the Case I particularly like the fact that their front panel connector come at the top end for easy access. also do you see any benifit in using a SSHD over a conventional HDD for a few extra bucks.

 

 

[Shahnewaz]

2 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

certainly I don't need both SLI or Crossfire. I was referring to sound cards or LAN or Wireless cards which I may need to add in future in case of a failure on on board cards. 

That is an extreme rarity. Don't bother worrying about those.

2 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

I do have few more questions like do I really need a 520W bronze certified PSU, can't I go with a typical 400W or 450W PSU especially considering the PC components that I am currently using.

That part list consumes less than 200W. I picked a 520W PSU in case you consider adding in a Graphics Card.

If you won't be gaming in any sort, then any PSU is fine.

2 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

also what's your opinion on  Enermax Ostrog ATX Black for the Case I particularly like the fact that their front panel connector come at the top end for easy access.

Any case is fine by me.

2 hours ago, prav_1102 said:

also do you see any benifit in using a SSHD over a conventional HDD for a few extra bucks.

It gets faster boot times and load times on frequently used programs and files.The problems with SSHDs are, that while they are fast, they aren't as fast as an SSD, and not as cost-effective as an HDD+SSD solution.

The other solution is to buy a separate SSD and install Windows and frequently used programs there. While this requires manually choosing what goes where, you get significantly more Gigabytes of SSD space per dollar, compared to an SSHD.

An SSHD will give you 8GB of built-in SSD space for $30 more, while a decent SSD will give you 240GB for $40 more.

[prav_1102]

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

That is an extreme rarity. Don't bother worrying about those.

ok, then I am fine with it. my only other concern is that will this MoBo be able to run the high end i7 without any issue ? and if at I am planning to add a GPU would it be sufficient ?

 

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

That part list consumes less than 200W. I picked a 520W PSU in case you consider adding in a Graphics Card.

If you won't be gaming in any sort, then any PSU is fine.

 

so can you please recommend me a decent PSU that can operate in indian standard 220V from the wall socket.

 

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

Any case is fine by me.

can you please suggest me a good case with more usb 3.0 (preferably at the top and more positive air pressure 

 

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

It gets faster boot times and load times on frequently used programs and files.The problems with SSHDs are, that while they are fast, they aren't as fast as an SSD, and not as cost-effective as an HDD+SSD solution.

The other solution is to buy a separate SSD and install Windows and frequently used programs there. While this requires manually choosing what goes where, you get significantly more Gigabytes of SSD space per dollar, compared to an SSHD.

An SSHD will give you 8GB of built-in SSD space for $30 more, while a decent SSD will give you 240GB for $40 more.

 

in that case can you please suggest a good decent SSD ?

[prav_1102]

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

That is an extreme rarity. Don't bother worrying about those.

Then I am fine with it, the only other concern with this motherboard is that will it be able to handle thee high end i7 processor without any issues ? also if I do go ahead and add a GPU will this board be capable of handling it smoothly with the i7 ?

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

That part list consumes less than 200W. I picked a 520W PSU in case you consider adding in a Graphics Card.

If you won't be gaming in any sort, then any PSU is fine.

 can you please recommend me a decent PSU that can take the 220v input from the wall socket (this is the Indian standard output)

 

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

Any case is fine by me.

can you suggest a good case with more usb 3.0 (preferably the I/O ar the top & a option to include a optical drive.) Also I want it to have a good positive air pressure as it gets really really hot during summer in India especially where I live.

 

On 6/21/2016 at 10:22 PM, Shahnewaz said:

It gets faster boot times and load times on frequently used programs and files.The problems with SSHDs are, that while they are fast, they aren't as fast as an SSD, and not as cost-effective as an HDD+SSD solution.

The other solution is to buy a separate SSD and install Windows and frequently used programs there. While this requires manually choosing what goes where, you get significantly more Gigabytes of SSD space per dollar, compared to an SSHD.

An SSHD will give you 8GB of built-in SSD space for $30 more, while a decent SSD will give you 240GB for $40 more.

can you suggest a good SSD to go along with this config ?

[prav_1102]

anyone ?

[Shahnewaz]

On 2016-06-30 at 8:09 AM, prav_1102 said:

Then I am fine with it, the only other concern with this motherboard is that will it be able to handle thee high end i7 processor without any issues ? also if I do go ahead and add a GPU will this board be capable of handling it smoothly with the i7 ?

Yes, and yes. The motherboard makes zero difference, unless you're overclocking.

On 2016-06-30 at 8:09 AM, prav_1102 said:

 can you please recommend me a decent PSU that can take the 220v input from the wall socket (this is the Indian standard output)

On 2016-06-30 at 8:09 AM, prav_1102 said:

can you suggest a good case with more usb 3.0 (preferably the I/O ar the top & a option to include a optical drive.) Also I want it to have a good positive air pressure as it gets really really hot during summer in India especially where I live.

On 2016-06-30 at 8:09 AM, prav_1102 said:

can you suggest a good SSD to go along with this config ?

Look at my part lists above.

SSD:

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam

http://in.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam

[Herman Mcpootis]

On 6/30/2016 at 8:09 PM, prav_1102 said:

 

 can you please recommend me a decent PSU that can take the 220v input from the wall socket (this is the Indian standard output)

don't get that cx 600, go for this seasonic s12ii instead.

http://www.flipkart.com/seasonic-s12ii-520-watts-psu/p/itmd5xz5hzvzt9cx?pid=PSUD5XZ4KFH65H9E&al=MGqC%2BjG03QKWgCRdbSEIBsldugMWZuE7JTWSsYnGIuXw0WVPLBCQdDMFnf3nyAFURaU7PNGAhAc%3D&ref=L%3A1387337263045691300&srno=p_40&findingMethod=Search&otracker=start