$500 budget PC

[LordBacon]

So here is the current situation i am in. I would like to build a budget PC to get me through the next 3 or 4 years. I have an issue when building my own that i tend to go overboard and over budget, this is due to the fact that i am fairly well versed in the majority of computer parts and i am a "the best of the best" kind of person despite not being loaded with cash. so i wanted to reach out to the community and put a kind of challenge out there to people for suggestions on systems (not pre-built please) either parts of them or just full system builds. the uses for this machine will be everything from running virtual machines for school to gaming and streaming. so if you have any suggestions or just straight up PC builds you have used in the past please feel free to link them. the current budget of $500 is not rock solid but its preferred.

[Hydraxiler32]

do you need OS and peripherals or do you have that?

take a look at logicalincrements.com

[LordBacon]

Just now, Hydraxiler32 said:

do you need OS and peripherals or do you have that?

I get any OS i want through my college for free and ive got peripherals for the most part. a good mouse and a good headset. a mediocre keyboard and a screen that i need to spend some time troubleshooting. if you would like to recommend peripherals i wouldn't mind

[Hydraxiler32]

24 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

I get any OS i want through my college for free and ive got peripherals for the most part. a good mouse and a good headset. a mediocre keyboard and a screen that i need to spend some time troubleshooting. if you would like to recommend peripherals i wouldn't mind

do you plan to upgrade? is this for gaming, school, etc?

[LordBacon]

Just now, Hydraxiler32 said:

do you plan to upgrade? is this for gaming, school, etc?

room to upgrade is preferable. yes gaming and yes school.

[Hydraxiler32]

26 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

room to upgrade is preferable. yes gaming and yes school.

here

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F69XCJ

you can just add an CPU cooler at some point. then a bigger SSD, better GPU or CPU and RAM upgrade. Should be good enough for most modern games. 

[Spork829]

3 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

11 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

So here is the current situation i am in. I would like to build a budget PC to get me through the next 3 or 4 years. I have an issue when building my own that i tend to go overboard and over budget, this is due to the fact that i am fairly well versed in the majority of computer parts and i am a "the best of the best" kind of person despite not being loaded with cash. so i wanted to reach out to the community and put a kind of challenge out there to people for suggestions on systems (not pre-built please) either parts of them or just full system builds. the uses for this machine will be everything from running virtual machines for school to gaming and streaming. so if you have any suggestions or just straight up PC builds you have used in the past please feel free to link them. the current budget of $500 is not rock solid but its preferred.

I get any OS i want through my college for free and ive got peripherals for the most part. a good mouse and a good headset. a mediocre keyboard and a screen that i need to spend some time troubleshooting. if you would like to recommend peripherals i wouldn't mind

Here's the best I can come up with. I would save up a little more and get something like this or even a bit better if you want it to last you 3-4 years. Something for $500 right now simply won't very well without a lot of upgrades: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FDY8WZ

[Spork829]

1 minute ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

here

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F69XCJ

you can just add an CPU cooler at some point. then a bigger SSD, better GPU or CPU and RAM upgrade. Should be good enough for most modern games. 

I also like this, maybe even more than mine.

[LordBacon]

1 minute ago, Spork829 said:

Here's the best I can come up with. I would save up a little more and get something like this or even a bit better if you want it to last you 3-4 years. Something for $500 right now simply won't very well without a lot of upgrades: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FDY8WZ

i have been cautioned in the past against AMD CPU's because of their scheduling. i personally have never owned one so i dont know what its like first hand. what are your thoughts?

[Hydraxiler32]

24 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

i have been cautioned in the past against AMD CPU's because of their scheduling. i personally have never owned one so i dont know what its like first hand. what are your thoughts?

what i've been told is that don't buy AMD cpus right now unless its an 860k and wait for the Zen chips to release and hope they are good.

[Spork829]

Just now, LordBacon said:

i have been cautioned in the past against AMD CPU's because of their scheduling. i personally have never owned one so i dont know what its like first hand. what are your thoughts?

Never owned one either, and the internet is pretty mixed on the subject. I think if you're going to be doing less gaming and more CPU intensive stuff (especially VM's) I would lean toward Intel, but if you're on a budget AMD can be good just because they're so dang cheap.

[LordBacon]

Just now, Hydraxiler32 said:

what i've been told is that don't buy AMD cpus right now unless its an 860k and wait for the Zen chips to release and hope they are good.

havent heard that. but i guess it lines up. also not a fan of their CPU's that claim 8 cores when 4 of them are virtual cores.

[LordBacon]

Just now, Spork829 said:

Never owned one either, and the internet is pretty mixed on the subject. I think if you're going to be doing less gaming and more CPU intensive stuff (especially VM's) I would lean toward Intel, but if you're on a budget AMD can be good just because they're so dang cheap.

good point. hadnt thought of that. im using VM's in classes now and from my understanding of the courses to come ill be using more and more.

[Spork829]

2 minutes ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

what i've been told is that don't buy AMD cpus right now unless its an 860k and wait for the Zen chips to release and hope they are good.

Yeah, it seems like now is not a great time to start a build with Zen as well as the new Nvidia stuff coming out.

[Hydraxiler32]

26 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

Yeah, it seems like now is not a great time to start a build with Zen as well as the new Nvidia stuff coming out.

I believe Cannonlake, the new Intel generation is coming out early 2017.

[Hydraxiler32]

29 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

havent heard that. but i guess it lines up. also not a fan of their CPU's that claim 8 cores when 4 of them are virtual cores.

take a look at AMD vs Intel CPUs of the same price.

i5-6500 vs FX-9590 http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-AMD-FX-9590/3513vs1812

i3-6100 vs FX-6350 http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-FX-6350-Six-Core/3511vsm713

G3258 vs 860K http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-860K/2434vs3265

[LordBacon]

5 minutes ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

take a look at AMD vs Intel CPUs of the same price.

i5-6500 vs FX-9590 http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-AMD-FX-9590/3513vs1812

i3-6100 vs FX-6350 http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-FX-6350-Six-Core/3511vsm713

G3258 vs 860K http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-860K/2434vs3265

wait wait wait. the pentium can be clocked to 4.65? since when? have i been living under a rock?

 

[Hydraxiler32]

30 minutes ago, LordBacon said:

wait wait wait. the pentium can be clocked to 4.65? since when? have i been living under a rock?

 

MSi actually overclocked it to 6.8 GHz but then again they are MSi.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/msi-broken-the-world-record-pentium-g3258-oc-up-to-6-8-ghz.202798/

[vtecf20c]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xrdtVn

 

Psu and Motherboard are not the best, but still good and reliable, and the 380X is better than 960

[LordBacon]

2 minutes ago, Hydraxiler32 said:

MSi actually overclocked it to 6.8 GHz but then again they are MSi.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/msi-broken-the-world-record-pentium-g3258-oc-up-to-6-8-ghz.202798/

that is crazy haha