M.2 ssd issue

[mitzak]

Hi i just finished my pc buid. The last element inserted was a samsung ssd m.2 pcie 256GB. I booted windows 10 on it and then the computer no longer detect my old hardisks (2 hardisk 250gb sata 2).

The old hdds are not availalble on bios, not available on disk manager.

I updated even mother board bios nothing.

 

Any clue?

[Guest]

Are you sure the drives are plugged in and powered?

[mitzak]

yes 100% because i used them before inserting the m.2 ..... one hdd had win10 on it , the other i was keeping for storage documents.

In future i will get rid of them anyway bcs they are old , but i may get same issues with new ones, so that's why i want to figure it out.

[Ruhel]

If you pull the M.2 drive out does the old HDD with Windows 10 get detected? 

[mitzak]

I just unpluged the m.2 and the old drivers appear in bios

[DotComBubblegum]

Isnt this caused by the fact that m.2 SSD disables 2 of the sata lanes so two sata ports get disabled or is this only with m.2 that are on mobo itself ? Try reading mobo manual to see which sata ports get disabled and thenplug in the HDD's in to other sata ports.

[Ruhel]

How many sata port do you have? Can you try using a different port. I dont see why using a PCIe slot would disable them but no harm in trying.

[mitzak]

on my mother board i have m.2 special port witch is pcie, i dont think is normal to disable 2 sata ports

[DotComBubblegum]

Just now, mitzak said:

on my mother board i have m.2 special port witch is pcie, i dont think is normal to disable 2 sata ports

Try plugging your HDD's in to different sata ports not 1st and 2nd but say 3rd and 4th, I assume you have 6 ports. m.2 ssd's that have specific ports on Mobo's have the issue of taking up the bandwidth of the sata lanes that disable 2 of the ports per m.2 ssd inserted, so say you have 6 ports and 3   m.2 ssd's, that would disable all your sata ports.

[DotComBubblegum]

 

 check it at 16:00 minutes mark

[mitzak]

yes, you are right , i never knew this is is good at least i figure out what is happening ... the exact sata ports that m.2 is disabling.

I change the old hdds to different ports and they show up.

 

Now question is:  if i buy a m.2 adaptor to PCIE similar like this : 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MYCQP38/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00MYCQP38&linkCode=as2&tag=tinkertry-20&linkId=UAU4IQVJG2GAADQP

, will the 2 sata slots still be disabled?

 

I am asking this bcs i have 6 sata slots, 1 is dvd rom, 2 are disable by m.2, and in future i may need more  sata slots.   I would like to have like 4 hdd: 2 for backup , 2 for normal storage, 1 dvd , 1 m.2 for sistem use.

 

 

[DotComBubblegum]

2 minutes ago, mitzak said:

yes, you are right , i never knew this is is good at least i figure out what is happening ... the exact sata ports that m.2 is disabling.

I change the old hdds to different ports and they show up.

 

Now question is:  if i buy a m.2 adaptor to PCIE similar like this : 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MYCQP38/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00MYCQP38&linkCode=as2&tag=tinkertry-20&linkId=UAU4IQVJG2GAADQP

, will the 2 sata slots still be disabled?

 

I am asking this bcs i have 6 sata slots, 1 is dvd rom, 2 are disable by m.2, and in future i may need more  sata slots.   I would like to have like 4 hdd: 2 for backup , 2 for normal storage, 1 dvd , 1 m.2 for sistem use.

 

 

As far as I know that addapter would solve the issue.

[zMeul]

4 hours ago, mitzak said:

yes, you are right , i never knew this is is good at least i figure out what is happening ... the exact sata ports that m.2 is disabling.

I change the old hdds to different ports and they show up.

 

Now question is:  if i buy a m.2 adaptor to PCIE similar like this : 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MYCQP38/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00MYCQP38&linkCode=as2&tag=tinkertry-20&linkId=UAU4IQVJG2GAADQP

, will the 2 sata slots still be disabled?

 

I am asking this bcs i have 6 sata slots, 1 is dvd rom, 2 are disable by m.2, and in future i may need more  sata slots.   I would like to have like 4 hdd: 2 for backup , 2 for normal storage, 1 dvd , 1 m.2 for sistem use.

 

 

no it would not

 

as far as I could gather, since you did not specify the exact model of the m.2 SSD, is that it's a SATA drive and not a PCIe drive - that's pretty important since that adapter does not support SATA m.2 drives

 

this should do it, if the SSD is SATA type: http://www.amazon.com/ZTC-Lightning-Internal-Card-ZTC-EX001/dp/B00S5M36J2/ref=pd_sim_147_7?ie=UTF8&dpID=51kLLJMGxfL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1164XR3YYN3PD2VBF2AX

[mitzak]

Salutare zMeule  ! It is a Samsung SM951 256GB M.2 PCIe 3.0, 2150/1200MBs

 

http://www.fanplace.ro/ssd-uri/integral/79917-ssd-integral-sm951-256gb-m-2-pcie-3-0-2150-1200mbs-80mm-only-8-grams/

 

Motherboard is this: AsRock Z170 Extreme 4 :

1. 3 SATA Express, 6 SATA3, 1 Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA3)

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20Extreme4/index.us.asp

[mitzak]

Here are the speed test i made for the m.2 drive

[zMeul]

19 minutes ago, mitzak said:

It is a Samsung SM951

then, the original recommendation stands